Quebec to ban religious symbols in daycare centres
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I took it from a news article from last week, which suggests pretty strongly that that proposal is exactly what was implemented, and they never produced an updated graphic.
But again, I’d welcome a genuine correction.
The bill is still being debated in the supreme court. A timeline with more details and updates can be found here: https://ccla.org/major-cases-and-reports/bill-21/
That said, the Quebec government has been pretty fucking hostile to people who wear religious symbols. The original article frames it as residual tensions from the French Catholic chuch but a big part of it is definitely xenophobia and racism. Montreal and Quebec City are progressive havens in a land of very small, very white, very religious towns.
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The bill is still being debated in the supreme court. A timeline with more details and updates can be found here: https://ccla.org/major-cases-and-reports/bill-21/
That said, the Quebec government has been pretty fucking hostile to people who wear religious symbols. The original article frames it as residual tensions from the French Catholic chuch but a big part of it is definitely xenophobia and racism. Montreal and Quebec City are progressive havens in a land of very small, very white, very religious towns.
Thank you - this is what I’m here for.
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I linked to the article!
Yes but i have to scroll waaaaay down to the picture only to find it is a picture from waaaay back. I’m not saying you are, but i often find people who have the intention to mislead tend to post it this way.
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Again, i don’t really care, i’m providing context you purposely left out.
appropriate username
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Their cultural symbols and practices are protected under Federal Law.
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I’m Canadian, pro-immigration, and yet I don’t believe religious symbols belong in a child’s daycare or school, regardless of the religion. I agree with this move.
Education and religion are inherently incompatible. If I saw my children’s teachers wearing a cross, I’d question their ability to actually do their job, especially in the Sciences.
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More like annoying_attitude. ValueSub deserves better.
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I mean the Yahweh cult and it’s different sects (Christianity, Judaism, Islam etc.) comes from an ancient middle-eastern religion. It’s also the deadliest and most violent cult/ideology in the history of mankind. Wearing a cross, star or moon is pretty much the same thing as wearing a swastika, except maybe worse.
Hey look, me at 16
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More like annoying_attitude. ValueSub deserves better.
Provide immediate context is bad. Got it.
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If you have additional information that contradicts it, I’d happy to see it. I don’t live in Quebec, and only know what I know.
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I’m conflicted on this one. It seems to be framed as hateful against Middle-eastsrn religions in particular, but doesn’t it restrict ALL religious symbols? I’m all for less religion in public places, regardless of the religion.
It’s Quebec. they love to pick and choose their hate. yes it’s specifically targeted towards Muslims, no they wont’ remove Christian symbols, yes Quebec has always been pithy like this.
Remember back in the 90s when they wanted to ditch us but keep the money? this is just more pithy Quebecois bullshit.
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Hey look, me at 16
Hey look, me at 13
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I’m Canadian, pro-immigration, and yet I don’t believe religious symbols belong in a child’s daycare or school, regardless of the religion. I agree with this move.
This legislation unfairly targets Muslims, in particular women.
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The giant cross on the top of Mount Royal is a religious symbol too so they should remove it asap.
It’s not a daycare though. Neither is the oratory.
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Their cultural symbols and practices are protected under Federal Law.
Freedom of expression is also protected under federal law.
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Never heard this one. Care to explain on it ?
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Never heard this one. Care to explain on it ?
Well now you’ve heard it. That’s your explanation - don’t play dumb, it’s not becoming.
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No. I’m genuinely interested by your take. I’m all in to say that Quebec is one of the most racist province but I want (liked) some external experience
Edit: also I’ve heard Quebec is racist as Alberta but never as Manitoba
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I took it from a news article from last week, which suggests pretty strongly that that proposal is exactly what was implemented, and they never produced an updated graphic.
But again, I’d welcome a genuine correction.
Just underneath that picture it says it was not implemented.
In 2013, a minority PQ government proposed the notorious “charter of Quebec values,” aiming to ban religious symbols for public servants, but it went nowhere after the PQ lost the 2014 election.
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It is very interesting to see the pendulum swing. I do find the title misleading as the article appears to only apply to wearing religious symbols and it only applying to new employees as already employed are exempt.
It also doesn’t seem to differentiate between public, private or subsidized daycares. Lots of open air in this article.
I’m an anti-theist and believe religion does untold damage to society. In my perfect world I’m completely for the removal of all religion iconography in publicly funded institutions. This includes clothing, jewellery, and gaudy John 3:16 t-shirts.
If it’s private, do whatever you want. If you want a grotesque image of your dead god on a cross hanging on your wall, you do you. I just don’t want to pay for that out of my tax dollars.
That said, I understand people wear a bunch of stupid shit for their gods, and that is a freedom of expression that should be protected. If someone wears a magic cross, bulletproof underwear of protection, or has to hide their hair because their god hates hairdos, then whatever. That in itself probably isn’t going to hang black people, start an ethnic genocide, or fly planes into buildings.
As long as these religious kooks don’t spout their hateful superstitious bullshit to the kids, I’m fine with it.
