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Violence is always the answer

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  • C cannedtuna@lemmy.world

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    buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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    #101

    How can they both explain it when one only tells lies?

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    • mechaguana@programming.devM mechaguana@programming.dev

      But they would have to keep adjusting since they both have to answer acco4ding to what the other one says

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      buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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      #102

      The answer is stable because the liar will always say the bad door is safe and the truth teller will always say the safe door is safe, therefore the liar will always say that the truth teller will direct you to the danger door and the truth teller will tell you the same.

      I tried to add some self-reference to the question to make a paradoxical answer but can’t see a wording that even causes something like “this statement is false”, at least not one about which door to pick.

      Only ways I can think of start with the paradox right in the question. Like “If the other guard said, ‘this statement is false’, would you believe him?”

      Sucks someone downvoted just for asking questions to better understand this less than straightforward thing. I’ve always believed that if you think something is wrong, you should challenge it, because even if you are wrong, the resulting discussion can help you understand why your previous perspective was flawed, which might then cascade to other things you didn’t realize you were also mistaken about.

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      • S svc@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz

        But they gained no information on which door to choose ='(

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        buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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        #103

        Yes, but they did establish that one of the guards is no longer living and that giving barbarians riddles is dangerous for everyone involved.

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        • A armchairace1944@discuss.online

          That’s funny! but if you want to know how to solve this problem every time, even when asking one single question, just ask this question:

          “If I ask the other guy which is the correct path, which path will he tell me?”

          No matter who you ask, both of them will point to the WRONG path, meaning the correct one is the one they DIDN’T point to. Here is the logic.

          For the sake of argument, let’s assume the correct path is the right path. When you ask that question, if the person is the truthful one, he will be honest and say the left path. Because if you ask the liar what the correct path is, he will say it is the left path (which is false). Now if you ask the liar what the other guy will say the correct path is, he will lie to you and say it is the left path (which is also false, the truthful one will tell you it is the right path and not the left).

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          nalivai@lemmy.world
          wrote on last edited by
          #104

          “I have no idea what the other guy would say, we’re honest-lier pair of guards, not reading each other fucking thoughts pair of guards”

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          • S Spice Hoarder

            The liar responds “I don’t know”

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            howrar@lemmy.ca
            wrote on last edited by
            #105

            Truth teller: “He’ll point you towards the door that leads to certain death”

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            • T thatguy46475@lemmy.world

              Now let’s make it a little harder. You have three guards: one tells the truth, one lies, one answers randomly. The guards understand you, but only answer either “da” or “ja”. One means yes, one means no, but you don’t know which is which. You get to ask each guard one question.

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              excral@feddit.org
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              #106

              It’s still trivial, assuming the three guards guard three doors: just ask each guard: “Would the guard that always lies say this door is safe?” The random guard will give a random answer while the other two give the inverted answer. Even better if don’t ask the random guard first, then you can repeat the question about the other doors to the same guard and only need two questions

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              • T thatguy46475@lemmy.world

                Now let’s make it a little harder. You have three guards: one tells the truth, one lies, one answers randomly. The guards understand you, but only answer either “da” or “ja”. One means yes, one means no, but you don’t know which is which. You get to ask each guard one question.

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                homefry@infosec.pub
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                #107

                When I was a substitute teacher I would give the kids logic puzzles of varying difficulty. I would offer $100 if anyone could provide me with the answer to this one. If they looked it up on Wikipedia and could then explain it to me, I’d give them a king size candy bar.

                I never had to pay out.

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                The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever - Wikipedia

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                (en.wikipedia.org)

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                • cilethesane@lemmy.caC cilethesane@lemmy.ca

                  The third guard stabs people who ask tricky questions.

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                  Fonzie!
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #108

                  I feel like this is an XKCD…

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                  • C cannedtuna@lemmy.world

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                    Fonzie!
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #109

                    Is there more of this?

                    What’s this from?

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                    • L Fonzie!

                      Is there more of this?

                      What’s this from?

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                      cannedtuna@lemmy.world
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #110

                      Nhim is the artist. The character is Mimi. They’re all standalone comics, but there’s a bunch with Mimi. All have the same crazy goblin energy to them.

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