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Nintendo’s Monster Capturing Patent Got Rejected by Japan’s Patent Office Due to Lack of Originality

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  • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
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    Destide
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    They don’t seem to realise how much this has cost them. Post-Iwata Nintendo was already going to struggle, and they’ve just doubled down with the same arrogance in a market where a $6 game beating a $60 one is becoming more and more common.

    My second console was an NES when I was 7. I’m in their biggest demographic, and Pokémon’s biggest demographic too – one that isn’t growing, by the way.

    The Switch is the last one I would’ve been willing to buy. They’re another brand that thinks they have automatic access to my purchasing choices, and another one I’ve personally blacklisted based on behaviour. With emulation, we’d always say “yeah, it’s a dick move,” but you can at least understand it, even if they have no intention of releasing some of their most-wanted backlog or letting you transfer your digital ROM purchases. But going after indies just for showing them up as complacent, fat dragons trying to patent “mid”? Lawsuit or not, get fucked.

    I’m not the only one, either. I think the only people left are those who see Nintendo as video-game iPhones and autopilot into a purchase, and the diehards who have dedicated Amiibo rooms.

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    • DestideS Destide

      They don’t seem to realise how much this has cost them. Post-Iwata Nintendo was already going to struggle, and they’ve just doubled down with the same arrogance in a market where a $6 game beating a $60 one is becoming more and more common.

      My second console was an NES when I was 7. I’m in their biggest demographic, and Pokémon’s biggest demographic too – one that isn’t growing, by the way.

      The Switch is the last one I would’ve been willing to buy. They’re another brand that thinks they have automatic access to my purchasing choices, and another one I’ve personally blacklisted based on behaviour. With emulation, we’d always say “yeah, it’s a dick move,” but you can at least understand it, even if they have no intention of releasing some of their most-wanted backlog or letting you transfer your digital ROM purchases. But going after indies just for showing them up as complacent, fat dragons trying to patent “mid”? Lawsuit or not, get fucked.

      I’m not the only one, either. I think the only people left are those who see Nintendo as video-game iPhones and autopilot into a purchase, and the diehards who have dedicated Amiibo rooms.

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      flexibletoast@lemmy.world
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      I grew up with Nintendo and Pokémon too. However, if you had an NES when you were 7, you are no longer Pokémon’s target demographic. We just aren’t. I like playing the games, but they’re targeted at a much younger audience.

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      • DestideS Destide

        They don’t seem to realise how much this has cost them. Post-Iwata Nintendo was already going to struggle, and they’ve just doubled down with the same arrogance in a market where a $6 game beating a $60 one is becoming more and more common.

        My second console was an NES when I was 7. I’m in their biggest demographic, and Pokémon’s biggest demographic too – one that isn’t growing, by the way.

        The Switch is the last one I would’ve been willing to buy. They’re another brand that thinks they have automatic access to my purchasing choices, and another one I’ve personally blacklisted based on behaviour. With emulation, we’d always say “yeah, it’s a dick move,” but you can at least understand it, even if they have no intention of releasing some of their most-wanted backlog or letting you transfer your digital ROM purchases. But going after indies just for showing them up as complacent, fat dragons trying to patent “mid”? Lawsuit or not, get fucked.

        I’m not the only one, either. I think the only people left are those who see Nintendo as video-game iPhones and autopilot into a purchase, and the diehards who have dedicated Amiibo rooms.

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        Lvxferre [he/him]
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        #7

        I’m not the only one, either. I think the only people left are those who see Nintendo as video-game iPhones and autopilot into a purchase, and the diehards who have dedicated Amiibo rooms.

        And even those might suffer some causalities, depending on how things go:

        • the ones treating games like luxury goods are a bit too susceptible towards popular attitude. If Nintendo goes from “wow, you got a Nintendo!” to “you got a Nintendo? Cringe. Even Twilight is a better love story.”, they’ll be quick to ditch it too.
        • diehard fans tolerate more abuse than reasonable fans, but that amount if not infinite. And Nintendo has been rather abusive when it comes to the Switch 2, including remote bricking it for spurious reasons.
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        • F flexibletoast@lemmy.world

          I grew up with Nintendo and Pokémon too. However, if you had an NES when you were 7, you are no longer Pokémon’s target demographic. We just aren’t. I like playing the games, but they’re targeted at a much younger audience.

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          theeighthdoctor@lemmy.zip
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          Except kids don’t give a shit about Pokémon, and the only ones that do is because of their parents.

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          • T theeighthdoctor@lemmy.zip

            Except kids don’t give a shit about Pokémon, and the only ones that do is because of their parents.

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            virku@lemmy.world
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            I got twin 6year olds. Pokemon is huge in their circles. Played through one of the latest games with them on switch over the last year.

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              AwesomeLowlander
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              Why is Agent Smith in lotr? Damn, it really is a simulation.

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              • T theeighthdoctor@lemmy.zip

                Except kids don’t give a shit about Pokémon, and the only ones that do is because of their parents.

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                flexibletoast@lemmy.world
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                I didn’t say it was their largest audience, but it’s clearly who is targeted. They don’t care about you and I. We’re already fans, they need new fans.

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                • V virku@lemmy.world

                  I got twin 6year olds. Pokemon is huge in their circles. Played through one of the latest games with them on switch over the last year.

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                  racerx@lemmy.zip
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                  I’d be interested in understanding if people who think Pokemon is becoming irrelevant spend any time outside of Lemmy or their own circles. I see so much hate for Nintendo and Pokemon specifically, but as a parent and someone who spends a lot of time at kids’ activities, I see no sign of either slowing down.

                  I may not like Nintendo as a business and a lot of Pokemon games are too similar for my taste, but pretending they are in decline seems crazy to me.

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                    ssillyssadass
                    wrote on last edited by archmageazor@lemmy.world
                    #13

                    “Should we take this as a lesson that the players want more originality in their games, to the point where they’re turning to other sources for it?”

                    “Nah, just get rid of the competition.”

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                    • F flexibletoast@lemmy.world

                      I grew up with Nintendo and Pokémon too. However, if you had an NES when you were 7, you are no longer Pokémon’s target demographic. We just aren’t. I like playing the games, but they’re targeted at a much younger audience.

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                      mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world
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                      Yup, lemmy users frequently seem to have this strange idea that lemmy is somehow representative of the Nintendo customer base. I agree that I find Nintendo’s business practices terrible and their last Pokemon mainline title was frankly boring and uninteresting. But the reality is also that Scarlet/Violet was the second-best selling Pokemon game ever.

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                      • A AwesomeLowlander

                        Why is Agent Smith in lotr? Damn, it really is a simulation.

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                        ook@discuss.tchncs.de
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                        • DestideS Destide

                          They don’t seem to realise how much this has cost them. Post-Iwata Nintendo was already going to struggle, and they’ve just doubled down with the same arrogance in a market where a $6 game beating a $60 one is becoming more and more common.

                          My second console was an NES when I was 7. I’m in their biggest demographic, and Pokémon’s biggest demographic too – one that isn’t growing, by the way.

                          The Switch is the last one I would’ve been willing to buy. They’re another brand that thinks they have automatic access to my purchasing choices, and another one I’ve personally blacklisted based on behaviour. With emulation, we’d always say “yeah, it’s a dick move,” but you can at least understand it, even if they have no intention of releasing some of their most-wanted backlog or letting you transfer your digital ROM purchases. But going after indies just for showing them up as complacent, fat dragons trying to patent “mid”? Lawsuit or not, get fucked.

                          I’m not the only one, either. I think the only people left are those who see Nintendo as video-game iPhones and autopilot into a purchase, and the diehards who have dedicated Amiibo rooms.

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                          velypso@sh.itjust.works
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                          This comment is hilariously out of touch.

                          Like “old man yells at clouds” levels. Holy shit my sides. You must be trapped in the most insular of echo chambers.

                          Edit: this just in: Nintendo doesn’t care what a 50 year old, terminally-online nerd thinks.

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                          • T theeighthdoctor@lemmy.zip

                            Except kids don’t give a shit about Pokémon, and the only ones that do is because of their parents.

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                            kemsat@lemmy.world
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                            Got a 9 year old, him & his friends are into Pokemon.

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                            • V velypso@sh.itjust.works

                              This comment is hilariously out of touch.

                              Like “old man yells at clouds” levels. Holy shit my sides. You must be trapped in the most insular of echo chambers.

                              Edit: this just in: Nintendo doesn’t care what a 50 year old, terminally-online nerd thinks.

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                              haunchestv@feddit.uk
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                              #18

                              Would you like to share your nuanced opinion with the class?

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                              • H haunchestv@feddit.uk

                                Would you like to share your nuanced opinion with the class?

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                                agrivar@lemmy.world
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                                Do you really want to read whatever diarrhea that knob vomits up in response?

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                                • A agrivar@lemmy.world

                                  Do you really want to read whatever diarrhea that knob vomits up in response?

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                                  TooManyFoods
                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  Terrible mental image there. “If your knob is vomiting diarrhea, use vomnito the knob anti nausea medicine recommended by 4 out of 5 doctors. Doctor number 5 is a sick puppy who likes it”

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                                  • A agrivar@lemmy.world

                                    Do you really want to read whatever diarrhea that knob vomits up in response?

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                                    haunchestv@feddit.uk
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                                    If it means they waste their time spewing paragraphs that I don’t care to read, then yes.

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                                    • R racerx@lemmy.zip

                                      I’d be interested in understanding if people who think Pokemon is becoming irrelevant spend any time outside of Lemmy or their own circles. I see so much hate for Nintendo and Pokemon specifically, but as a parent and someone who spends a lot of time at kids’ activities, I see no sign of either slowing down.

                                      I may not like Nintendo as a business and a lot of Pokemon games are too similar for my taste, but pretending they are in decline seems crazy to me.

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                                      soulg@ani.social
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                                      #22

                                      They’re out of touch but don’t realize it for the exact same reasons that theyre out of touch in the first place. It’s literally just the Abe Simpson speech about not being “with it” anymore

                                      Except I guess in this case, they’re still with it, just don’t realize that it is still… It? I’ve lost my own plot

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                                      • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
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                                        TrackinDaKraken
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                                        It’s okay if you stop defending this corporation. Just sayin’.

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                                        • H haunchestv@feddit.uk

                                          Would you like to share your nuanced opinion with the class?

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                                          not_rick@lemmy.world
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                                          I mean, they’re definitely being rude but suggesting Nintendo being dickheads has any appreciable ding on their success is just fantasizing. They’ve been litigious dickheads for as long as I can remember and they’re doing better than ever.

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