Scientists can’t rule out that a soft pp might be the main causal variable

It’s a whole suite of issues we blame the victim for; there are a good number of women in these buckets too. I suspect the male focus here has more to do with domestic violence.

Maybe if they are violent and reoffending they should be disallowed from participating in a close, intimate relationship until they receive intensive therapy, which may include medication?

This is just masking a problem that is multi-faceted and the results aren’t really that impressive.

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Edit: I am not suggesting a license for private interpersonal relationships, I’m suggesting that we actually rehabilitate prisoners/offenders and give them therapy/mental health treatment. Commenters below are twisting my words and saying I’m suggesting things that are not in the above text, not even a little bit. I quickly stated that I meant this to be a term for probation (which is conditional freedom), not something retroactively applied to past offenders or applied to all adults in the form of a license.

The “can’t rule out” fallacy, often referred to as the appeal to ignorance, occurs when someone argues that a lack of evidence against a claim is taken as evidence for its truth. This fallacy suggests that if something cannot be disproven, it must be true, which is a flawed way of reasoning.

This study suggests that reduced sex drive is the most common side effect, but it impacts about 1/10. I can find no evidence that it is permanent (though see comments below!); stopping the drug should return most folks to normal.

Compare this treatment to incarceration: would you prefer to be less horny and free, or in jail? See also the patient reports in the article, talking about finally having some control in their lives.

Are you proposing that people should have to obtain a government-issued licenses for private interpersonal relationships?

Oi where’s your gf license mate

Keywords are: violent and reoffending.

I’m suggesting that we actually rehabilitate offenders after they offend to give them better tools to deal with their emotions and relationships to prevent more hurt from happening.

Plenty of people that commit certain crimes have conditions for re-entering society in whole and I don’t think what I’m suggesting is unreasonable.

I’m a firm believer in rehabilitative and restorative justice, not criminal justice/punitive punishment (which is a far cry from justice and punitive justice doesn’t properly disincentivize crime).

So lemme guess, sex outside of marriage should be illegal? Is that where you’re going with this?

You could have just said yes.

You can see my reply to limonfiesta, there is a profound misunderstanding y’all are having. I’m addressing our failing systems, like “criminal justice”, which is a total and complete farce.

Just untrue. Your twisting is not reflective of what I was saying at all.

The current system punishes people who commit domestic violence, and chances are, they go straight back to relationships and are incentivized to scare their partner to not report further abuse because they have been taught nothing through their punishment.

Plenty of people that commit certain crimes have conditions for re-entering society in whole and I don’t think what I’m suggesting is unreasonable.

You are suggesting government issued licenses/permission for private people to engage in private relationships.

You can be both horny and impotent at the same time. I’d still prefer to be free, of course.

Nope. I’m suggesting that people who offend (especially reoffenders) should go to therapy (locked ward) instead of prison and be taught how to be functioning human beings who don’t hurt others, especially those close to them. The sentence would be similar to their incarceration.

What I’m suggesting is akin to a prison sentence and probation (which may have terms and conditions).

You are acting like I’m talking about all people, but I’m limiting this to people who commit violent, domestic crime against others, especially repeatedly.

Lundy Bancroft is known for conducting the very thing you seem to be describing. If you haven’t already you should check out his works.

I’m not seeing where that was said?

Never heard of this person, but given that there are accusations against them that are at the forefront of search results I’m unsure if I feel it prudent to expose myself to their works.

And yet… Research has repeatedly shown it’s women who instigate relationship violence.

Ah yes, the inevitable downvoters.

It’s been well established. You don’t like it? Shame that.

No I’m not providing a source. Your anger should motivate you to look.

Here’s a place to start: which relationships experience the most violence: Male/Female, Male/Male, Female/Female?

Interestingly, the male/male is the least violent, and female/female the most violent.

'Nuff said.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30186202/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6113571/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30465625/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7034778/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23271429/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4046894/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21731790/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8766270/ https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/sexual-orientation-disparities-ipv/ https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/ipv-sex-abuse-lgbt-people/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32064141/

So take your biases and fucking read.

Further, if men are the primary cause of violence in relationships then:

F/F relationships should show orders of magnitude less violence.

M/M should have the highest levels of violence and be orders of magnitude greater then F/M.

And yet none of this is true in any study.

they should be disallowed from participating in a close, intimate relationship

The legal mechanisms required to enforce that would be some form of government permission and approval structure, such as licensing.

No amount of rhetorical flourish can get away from what they are essentially presenting, which is requiring government permission for interpersonal relationships.

How would the government track an individuals approval for personal private relationships?

How would the government enforce penalties on private citizens who engaged in an unauthorized private relationships?

And then we get to some fun questions, like what happens if the government privatizes the relationship approval system that OP is proposing?