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PC Gamers Abandoning Windows 11 for Linux with Higher FPS & Fewer Interruptions

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  • W wischi@programming.dev

    I get what you are saying and maybe I’ll find some time to do that, but I hope you also see the irony in an answer like that, because the typical user couldn’t care less about Gnome vs KDE.

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    Cethin
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    The typical user couldn’t care less about Windows VS Linux, but it makes it difference. I don’t know that it fixes the issues, but it might. It’s also an option you have because you’re on Linux, not Windows. You get a choice, and can figure out what works for you. It isn’t ironic, because that why you choose Linux. If you don’t want a choice and just want the garbage MS puts out, you don’t need to make any more choices. If you want options then you need to actually make choices too (though most aren’t permanent, like DEs, and you can swap between them).

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      uid0gid0@lemmy.world
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      I switched to Linux full time almost two years ago when Win 10 started saying my CPU wasn’t supported. My CPU is in the i7 family and I think they all got that treatment. Since then I’ve had no major issues with Linux Mint. As for gaming, I do get some frame drops with my Nvidia 3060, but I was getting the same on Windows.

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      • F forkdestroyer@infosec.pub

        Which distro did you end up going with? Wanted to change my tower over from Windows. Guessing bazzite is appropriate?

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        odemption@sopuli.xyz
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        Arch was described as hard mode but I installed EndeavourOS with KDE Plasma about a month and a half ago and it’s been smooth sailing. Given all the programs I use have native linux clients and I don’t play kernel level anti-cheat games at all.

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        • C corvidcawder@sh.itjust.works

          I know this is bait but literally just web browsing on a windows desktop 2 days ago made it bluescreen. W10 even, so can’t even blame the shitshow that is W11.

          I guess it goes for your argument though of stuff that can be fixed with a reboot… 🙃

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          stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Yeah. Sure it did.

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          • R randelung@lemmy.world

            Lol just recently Microslop broke the shutdown function.

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            stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            I click start, I click shutdown, it shuts down. So unless you are talking about some obscure shit that no one really uses, that’s a lie.

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            • Magnum, P.I.M Magnum, P.I.

              People like you make the world a living hell

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              stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Yes. I make the world a living hell for avoiding toxicity.

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              • I ieatdafeesh@lemmy.world

                Then you made a good choice sticking with Windows.

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                stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                Yeah. Sort of my point. The vast majority of users will never encounter problems severe enough to cause switching to a backwards OS

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                • J jaysyn@lemmy.world

                  Did this last May & haven’t missed much. I don’t play AAA slop though.

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                  ziltoid1991@lemmy.world
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                  I’m thinking about going dual boot mode soon, as Manjaro is a godsend so far on my ThinkPad.

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                  • U uid0gid0@lemmy.world

                    I switched to Linux full time almost two years ago when Win 10 started saying my CPU wasn’t supported. My CPU is in the i7 family and I think they all got that treatment. Since then I’ve had no major issues with Linux Mint. As for gaming, I do get some frame drops with my Nvidia 3060, but I was getting the same on Windows.

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                    tiramichu@sh.itjust.works
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                    #101

                    For what it’s worth, the “i7” branding isn’t a family, but a tier representation.

                    So basically it goes like:

                    i3 = basic

                    i5 = midrange

                    i7 = high end

                    i9 = top end

                    The first i7s released way back in 2010, so some older i7 chips are not supported by Windows 11 while newer ones (2018 and onwards) are.

                    But yeah, use Linux 🙂

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                    • S stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                      Yeah. Sort of my point. The vast majority of users will never encounter problems severe enough to cause switching to a backwards OS

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                      ieatdafeesh@lemmy.world
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                      Oh I completely disagree. There are severe enough issues for users to switch to Linux, they’re just not severe enough for you.

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                        enzy@feddit.nu
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                        I’d love to roll back to Linux but my GPU and the drivers don’t get along very well.

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                        • F forkdestroyer@infosec.pub

                          Which distro did you end up going with? Wanted to change my tower over from Windows. Guessing bazzite is appropriate?

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                          Not OP. Around same timeline. Went with bazzite for gaming. Have been using bazzite daily since. Stuff just works super easy to install. Also tried and have mint still installed on another partition but haven’t used it much besides the initial installation. And installed dual boot bazzite and mint on my old gaming laptop. Use mint on there daily for internet browsing and such, no gaming. But I’m certain it would work just fine as it’s all pretty much the same besides Debian (mint) Vs Fedora (bazzite).

                          I don’t play AAA slop either, and a few older easy anti cheat games don’t work. Such as Fawkes revival of Defiance.

                          Everything else works pre installed with Steam+ proton, Or Ludis + wine, Or the Heroic launcher for GoG, Amazon and EGS.

                          I do get higher FPS and better temps and less hardware usage than I ever did on Win11 for the same exact games.

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                          • P professorhoover@infosec.pub

                            Did they ever fix the RCE exploit in WW2?

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                            ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace
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                            What’s that?

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                            • Z ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace

                              What’s that?

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                              Grey Cat
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                              Remote Code Execution

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                              • E enzy@feddit.nu

                                I’d love to roll back to Linux but my GPU and the drivers don’t get along very well.

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                                okamiueru@lemmy.world
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                                Buy AMD, I suppose

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                                • Z ziltoid1991@lemmy.world

                                  I’m thinking about going dual boot mode soon, as Manjaro is a godsend so far on my ThinkPad.

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                                  hoppolito@mander.xyz
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                                  #108

                                  If you have set your mind to Manjaro I don’t want to dissuade you, but if you are not yet strongly convinced of the distro I always like to point out that there were some issues with the distribution in the past (someone collected them here).

                                  If you’re just after an Arch-like distribution I think EndeavourOS is a very friendly distro without adding their own repositories on top of Arch. But again - if you’re happy with Manjaro by all means also stay with it.

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                                    i_has_a_hat@lemmy.world
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                                    Are NVIDIA drivers still an absolute bitch to get working correctly? Is there still no way to run games off Gamepass?

                                    Ok cool, so it’s NOT just easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy to switch.

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                                    • H halcyoncmdr

                                      This is exactly the type of shit I’ve been trying to explain to the Linux fanboys for years and all of them dismiss outright.

                                      Until simple shit like this is easy for the average person, Linux will never replace Windows as a default OS option for regular users. 99% of people are scared of config files and the terminal, and they’re still just too commonly needed in every distro.

                                      A LOT of work has been done to minimize it, but there’s always still basic functionality that just isn’t in the GUI. That’s not an issue for most of us here… But it is for most people. Fediverse users are a small minority.

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                                      dkppunk
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                                      This is a big reason why most won’t switch. Linux can be difficult to get started with and Windows really makes things a lot easier for the average person.

                                      I tried to switch over to Linux this weekend, I gave up and switched back to Windows last night. I’m not completely computer illiterate, I know how to fix things enough that my colleagues often ask me (the administrative assistant) about simple stuff before going to IT.

                                      I really like the Linux environment and I found alternatives to my frequently used programs, but the one thing I really use my computer most is to play World of Warcraft. I spent hours trying to get it working and I couldn’t. I don’t understand the terminal stuff, GitHub is confusing, and there are so many obscure forums with info I don’t understand. With Windows, the install is incredibly simple and I had my previous setup running within 2 hours.

                                      I WANT to switch to Linux, but until I can run wow a lot easier, it looks like I won’t be. I’m not fully giving up on Linux, it just won’t be on my main machine.

                                      It’s really similar to a conversation I had with a classmate on Android vs iPhone. He just didn’t get why I have an iPhone; “Android is more open”, “you have more options”, etc. I had to explain that it just works; I get a new phone when my old one is no longer supported, then all I have to do is sign in and my phone is back to where it was. Yes, it’s a walled garden, yes there are things Apple does that I don’t like, but the phone itself is simple and easy to upgrade. It just works.

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                                      • W wischi@programming.dev

                                        I get what you are saying and maybe I’ll find some time to do that, but I hope you also see the irony in an answer like that, because the typical user couldn’t care less about Gnome vs KDE.

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                                        simulation6@sopuli.xyz
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                                        God forbid you should have options.

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                                        • W wischi@programming.dev

                                          I get what you are saying and maybe I’ll find some time to do that, but I hope you also see the irony in an answer like that, because the typical user couldn’t care less about Gnome vs KDE.

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                                          floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          I was about to comment the same - shitting itself when trying to do something nonstandard is a Gnome thing, not a Linux thing :^)

                                          I also fully understand that new users are not aware of what the different components are and “what they do” (how they influence the UX) but they very much do make or break their “Linux experience”. Personally I dislike Gnome because it exposes barely any settings, and it’s “simple” to the point where it feels almost like a toy to me - kinda like macOS feels. Some people might be looking for that, and I don’t judge them, but I think it’s important to make an informed decision on simplicity and “guardrails” vs flexibility and customization. The same goes for immutable vs “traditional”, rolling vs releases, etc.

                                          You don’t need to care about or understand the details, but the choice that the “Linux ecosystem” offers is one of its best parts, and understanding the implications of the ones you make is very important. It also helps avoid getting frustrated in “Linux can’t do this” situations by knowing that maybe it’s just your environment - believe me, unless it’s about running some proprietary code that the vendor is uncooperative about, “Linux” can do it. It might require some lines of code to glue together some pieces, but the “computing” things that “Linux can’t do” are very close to 0.

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