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  • S solorion@sh.itjust.works

    I disagree with the AA batteries being a negative though. If you use rechargeable batteries and make sure to have spares,

    yep, fully agree. I don’t particularly care for the move to rechargeable internal batteries for literally every device. I can just cycle through a pack of rechargeable AAAs every year or so and be fine.

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    canadiancorhen@lemmy.ca
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    my favorite are when it uses rechargable AAs, but can recharge them itself.

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    • B blanket@sh.itjust.works

      I’m still hoping for a new steam controller with inspiration from the steam deck. I loved the original controller and used it on the rare occasion that I needed controller input or for couch gaming. a newer version with all the upgraded components, hall effect joysticks, better trackpads, extra paddles, would be an instant buy for me.

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      paper_moon@lemmy.world
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      Its really frustrating they haven’t released the steam controller 2 modeled after the steamdeck, because it makes the steamdeck not as useful for docking situations. You get used to the 4 back paddle buttons and then dock it and try and use the steam controller and it’s missing the extra 2 back buttons, and other analog stick, so your muscle impulses are thrown off when playing your favorite games.

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        my favorite are when it uses rechargable AAs, but can recharge them itself.

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        This should be the default.

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        • A atomicpoet@lemmy.world

          The original Steam Controller is undoubtedly one of the coolest pieces of gear I own—and one of the most innovative, too.

          I got mine right when it launched in 2015. I wanted to solve a very real problem: I was trying to turn my PC into a console.

          You see, Valve had Big Picture Mode, which truly turned your PC into a console-like experience. The problem was that some of my favorite PC games didn’t support controllers. They were keyboard-and-mouse only.

          But then—here comes the Steam Controller. Suddenly, I was able to reprogram all the inputs. I could take basic keys, like the spacebar, and map them to a button on the controller—like the A button. And once you did that, you could share your controller configuration with the Steam community, or reuse a config someone else already made. It was pretty awesome.

          And those dual trackpads? They were swank. Incredible for first-person shooters and real-time strategy games. They were the next best thing to a mouse. And because of the angle of the handles, it all felt very comfortable in the hand—probably the most comfortable controller experience I’ve ever had.

          It’s funny—just a little over five years ago, gamers hated it. Not because they ever used one, but because it was a failure. And as we all know about gamers, there’s nothing they hate more than a failure. It was dismissed as a novelty—something no one would ever use again.

          Well, Valve had the last laugh. A few years ago, they released the Steam Deck. And what do you know? It’s a direct evolution of the Steam Controller. And now everyone loves the Steam Deck.

          Just take a look at it—it’s got so many of the same things the Steam Controller had: dual trackpads, back paddles, the ability to remap buttons and customize layouts. Having owned a Steam Deck since launch, I can say this confidently: the most killer features on the Deck originated with the Steam Controller.

          That said, it wasn’t perfect. There were a few quirks I wish they had fixed. For one, it would’ve been nice if it had dual analog sticks instead of just one. Using a trackpad in place of a right stick is fine in theory, but let’s be real: a trackpad does not replace an analog stick.

          Also, unlike most modern controllers, this one didn’t have a rechargeable battery. You needed AA batteries. Now, to be fair, those batteries lasted a long time—but it still would’ve been nicer to just recharge it and forget about replacements.

          Then there’s the back paddles. Only two of them. In hindsight, yeah, Valve knew they needed to evolve. I’ve grown so used to having four back paddles on the Steam Deck. They’re incredibly useful—especially in games with lots of inputs. Just good to have.

          Still, this was one of the first mainstream controllers to even have back paddles. So hats off to Valve for that.

          Honestly, I really wish there was another Steam Controller on the market. I know Hori makes a licensed controller for the Steam Deck in Japan, but it’s missing a core feature the original had: the dual trackpads.

          To me, the dual trackpads make the Steam Deck experience. It’s something almost no other handheld has. My wife has a Legion Go, and it does have a trackpad—but only one. And honestly? That makes all the difference. It’s fine. But man… it would’ve been a better handheld with two.

          Definitely one of the most innovative controllers ever made.

          And yeah, I still use mine. I use it when I dock my handheld. Or when I’m on my living room PC.

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          I found it too big and clumsy, but I’m glad others liked it!

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          • A atomicpoet@lemmy.world

            The original Steam Controller is undoubtedly one of the coolest pieces of gear I own—and one of the most innovative, too.

            I got mine right when it launched in 2015. I wanted to solve a very real problem: I was trying to turn my PC into a console.

            You see, Valve had Big Picture Mode, which truly turned your PC into a console-like experience. The problem was that some of my favorite PC games didn’t support controllers. They were keyboard-and-mouse only.

            But then—here comes the Steam Controller. Suddenly, I was able to reprogram all the inputs. I could take basic keys, like the spacebar, and map them to a button on the controller—like the A button. And once you did that, you could share your controller configuration with the Steam community, or reuse a config someone else already made. It was pretty awesome.

            And those dual trackpads? They were swank. Incredible for first-person shooters and real-time strategy games. They were the next best thing to a mouse. And because of the angle of the handles, it all felt very comfortable in the hand—probably the most comfortable controller experience I’ve ever had.

            It’s funny—just a little over five years ago, gamers hated it. Not because they ever used one, but because it was a failure. And as we all know about gamers, there’s nothing they hate more than a failure. It was dismissed as a novelty—something no one would ever use again.

            Well, Valve had the last laugh. A few years ago, they released the Steam Deck. And what do you know? It’s a direct evolution of the Steam Controller. And now everyone loves the Steam Deck.

            Just take a look at it—it’s got so many of the same things the Steam Controller had: dual trackpads, back paddles, the ability to remap buttons and customize layouts. Having owned a Steam Deck since launch, I can say this confidently: the most killer features on the Deck originated with the Steam Controller.

            That said, it wasn’t perfect. There were a few quirks I wish they had fixed. For one, it would’ve been nice if it had dual analog sticks instead of just one. Using a trackpad in place of a right stick is fine in theory, but let’s be real: a trackpad does not replace an analog stick.

            Also, unlike most modern controllers, this one didn’t have a rechargeable battery. You needed AA batteries. Now, to be fair, those batteries lasted a long time—but it still would’ve been nicer to just recharge it and forget about replacements.

            Then there’s the back paddles. Only two of them. In hindsight, yeah, Valve knew they needed to evolve. I’ve grown so used to having four back paddles on the Steam Deck. They’re incredibly useful—especially in games with lots of inputs. Just good to have.

            Still, this was one of the first mainstream controllers to even have back paddles. So hats off to Valve for that.

            Honestly, I really wish there was another Steam Controller on the market. I know Hori makes a licensed controller for the Steam Deck in Japan, but it’s missing a core feature the original had: the dual trackpads.

            To me, the dual trackpads make the Steam Deck experience. It’s something almost no other handheld has. My wife has a Legion Go, and it does have a trackpad—but only one. And honestly? That makes all the difference. It’s fine. But man… it would’ve been a better handheld with two.

            Definitely one of the most innovative controllers ever made.

            And yeah, I still use mine. I use it when I dock my handheld. Or when I’m on my living room PC.

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            Maximum gaming

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            • A atomicpoet@lemmy.world

              The original Steam Controller is undoubtedly one of the coolest pieces of gear I own—and one of the most innovative, too.

              I got mine right when it launched in 2015. I wanted to solve a very real problem: I was trying to turn my PC into a console.

              You see, Valve had Big Picture Mode, which truly turned your PC into a console-like experience. The problem was that some of my favorite PC games didn’t support controllers. They were keyboard-and-mouse only.

              But then—here comes the Steam Controller. Suddenly, I was able to reprogram all the inputs. I could take basic keys, like the spacebar, and map them to a button on the controller—like the A button. And once you did that, you could share your controller configuration with the Steam community, or reuse a config someone else already made. It was pretty awesome.

              And those dual trackpads? They were swank. Incredible for first-person shooters and real-time strategy games. They were the next best thing to a mouse. And because of the angle of the handles, it all felt very comfortable in the hand—probably the most comfortable controller experience I’ve ever had.

              It’s funny—just a little over five years ago, gamers hated it. Not because they ever used one, but because it was a failure. And as we all know about gamers, there’s nothing they hate more than a failure. It was dismissed as a novelty—something no one would ever use again.

              Well, Valve had the last laugh. A few years ago, they released the Steam Deck. And what do you know? It’s a direct evolution of the Steam Controller. And now everyone loves the Steam Deck.

              Just take a look at it—it’s got so many of the same things the Steam Controller had: dual trackpads, back paddles, the ability to remap buttons and customize layouts. Having owned a Steam Deck since launch, I can say this confidently: the most killer features on the Deck originated with the Steam Controller.

              That said, it wasn’t perfect. There were a few quirks I wish they had fixed. For one, it would’ve been nice if it had dual analog sticks instead of just one. Using a trackpad in place of a right stick is fine in theory, but let’s be real: a trackpad does not replace an analog stick.

              Also, unlike most modern controllers, this one didn’t have a rechargeable battery. You needed AA batteries. Now, to be fair, those batteries lasted a long time—but it still would’ve been nicer to just recharge it and forget about replacements.

              Then there’s the back paddles. Only two of them. In hindsight, yeah, Valve knew they needed to evolve. I’ve grown so used to having four back paddles on the Steam Deck. They’re incredibly useful—especially in games with lots of inputs. Just good to have.

              Still, this was one of the first mainstream controllers to even have back paddles. So hats off to Valve for that.

              Honestly, I really wish there was another Steam Controller on the market. I know Hori makes a licensed controller for the Steam Deck in Japan, but it’s missing a core feature the original had: the dual trackpads.

              To me, the dual trackpads make the Steam Deck experience. It’s something almost no other handheld has. My wife has a Legion Go, and it does have a trackpad—but only one. And honestly? That makes all the difference. It’s fine. But man… it would’ve been a better handheld with two.

              Definitely one of the most innovative controllers ever made.

              And yeah, I still use mine. I use it when I dock my handheld. Or when I’m on my living room PC.

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              commander@lemmy.world
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              I still have mine. Bought it when it was new but never got used to it. I do like the idea of the touchpads though. Be nice to see a new iteration on it

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                Its really frustrating they haven’t released the steam controller 2 modeled after the steamdeck, because it makes the steamdeck not as useful for docking situations. You get used to the 4 back paddle buttons and then dock it and try and use the steam controller and it’s missing the extra 2 back buttons, and other analog stick, so your muscle impulses are thrown off when playing your favorite games.

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                dualpad@lemmy.zip
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                I’d recommend the 8bitdo ultimate 2 wireless. Has two back paddles, but also has two additional bumper buttons so is actually 4 buttons in total. The back paddles of the controller is also much easier to press in than the Deck and extra bumpers easy to access, so even though the locations wouldn’t be 1 to 1 the use I find easier.

                Just have to update the firmware of the controller and dongle and then start the controller in dinput mode to be able to bind the extra buttons through Steam Input.

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                • MudManM MudMan

                  I hate this thing with a passion.

                  Some of it is a me thing. The trackpads hurt me physically. I’m talking immediate pain. Even when it came out a decade ago and my writsts were less busted than they are now they hurt. I know that’s not universal, and some people with similar accessiblity problems have the opposite experience. I don’t question that.

                  Some of it is most definitely not a me thing. It was plasticky, flimsy, prototypey and trying to make a thing happen that was not going to happen.

                  I don’t blame people for swearing by it as contrarians. Hey, I am fond of controllers people don’t like (the joycon are the best controller this generation and people like the wrong Saturn controller, and I’ll fight you on both of those). But still, I feel when this comes up it doesn’t get enough pushback mostly because not enough people actually tried it. I own one, I tried it and it was not good.

                  I don’t regret having one, though. Bit of a collector’s piece. I should go dig it up and make sure none of the plastic has rotted away.

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                  dualpad@lemmy.zip
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                  I came from a background of using joystick controllers then picked up a Steam Controller and loved it since. And I still use it along side regular controllers, so probably bit more experience on both than other people.

                  Build quality isn’t premium, but I prefer it for most of my games over my switch, xbox, 8bitdo, and sony controllers. Love it for games like Doom Eternal, Left 4 Dead 2, and The Finals.

                  Just haven’t found a controller that provides me with the functionality the Steam Controller offers despite finding alternatives to xbox controllers with first the playstation with it having gyro the xbox doesn’t, and then 8bitdo with additional buttons and TMR sticks the playstation doesn’t. But, still no Steam Controller alternative, so I’m still using it.

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                    I’d recommend the 8bitdo ultimate 2 wireless. Has two back paddles, but also has two additional bumper buttons so is actually 4 buttons in total. The back paddles of the controller is also much easier to press in than the Deck and extra bumpers easy to access, so even though the locations wouldn’t be 1 to 1 the use I find easier.

                    Just have to update the firmware of the controller and dongle and then start the controller in dinput mode to be able to bind the extra buttons through Steam Input.

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                    Noxy
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                    can they be unique buttons though? I thought they had to be copies of existing buttons, or macros or something.

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                      can they be unique buttons though? I thought they had to be copies of existing buttons, or macros or something.

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                      dualpad@lemmy.zip
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                      Yes they can be set up like any other button through Steam Input. I’ve tested it myself on the 8bitdo Ultimate 2 wireless, and analog triggers and gyro also works. The only other controller that offered that functionality was playstation before the firmware update with other third party controllers having to enter switch mode, which has digital triggers.

                      There is one thing that needs to be worked out with vibration, since if it is on it can cause the controller to stop working in game while using Steam Input. Have to leave it off for now. But, it’s been getting worked on.

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                        Yes they can be set up like any other button through Steam Input. I’ve tested it myself on the 8bitdo Ultimate 2 wireless, and analog triggers and gyro also works. The only other controller that offered that functionality was playstation before the firmware update with other third party controllers having to enter switch mode, which has digital triggers.

                        There is one thing that needs to be worked out with vibration, since if it is on it can cause the controller to stop working in game while using Steam Input. Have to leave it off for now. But, it’s been getting worked on.

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                        So over bluetooth or (i assume) 2.4ghz it supports more buttons than playstation/xbox, works with analog triggers, AND supports gyro?

                        That’s a feature set I’ve been really desperate for! And I really liked my 8bitdo Ultimate (1) Bluetooth until my puppy chewed it up. I might need this new one!

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                          So over bluetooth or (i assume) 2.4ghz it supports more buttons than playstation/xbox, works with analog triggers, AND supports gyro?

                          That’s a feature set I’ve been really desperate for! And I really liked my 8bitdo Ultimate (1) Bluetooth until my puppy chewed it up. I might need this new one!

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                          dualpad@lemmy.zip
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                          I haven’t tried over bluetooth but it does work over the 2.4 ghz dongle. I stick with the dongle over bluetooth, since polling is supposed to be 1000 hz.

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                          • NoxyN Noxy

                            So over bluetooth or (i assume) 2.4ghz it supports more buttons than playstation/xbox, works with analog triggers, AND supports gyro?

                            That’s a feature set I’ve been really desperate for! And I really liked my 8bitdo Ultimate (1) Bluetooth until my puppy chewed it up. I might need this new one!

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                            dualpad@lemmy.zip
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                            In case you are curious how the extra buttons look in Steam Input for the 8bitdo ultimate 2 wireless I included a pic.

                            pic.

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                              In case you are curious how the extra buttons look in Steam Input for the 8bitdo ultimate 2 wireless I included a pic.

                              pic.

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                              That just looks like you must bind the new back buttons as duplicates of other regular buttons tho, what if I want a back button to be presented to a game as a brand new, unique button

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                                That just looks like you must bind the new back buttons as duplicates of other regular buttons tho, what if I want a back button to be presented to a game as a brand new, unique button

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                                dualpad@lemmy.zip
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                                No you don’t have to. It’s separate buttons. Just happened to do that for that game.

                                Here’s one with keyboard keys.

                                pic2

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                                  No you don’t have to. It’s separate buttons. Just happened to do that for that game.

                                  Here’s one with keyboard keys.

                                  pic2

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                                  NICE. I may have to go order one of these right now.

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                                    NICE. I may have to go order one of these right now.

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                                    dualpad@lemmy.zip
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                                    Here’s another pic with the entire controller layout shown so you can see that the L4 and PL buttons are unique from all the other buttons.

                                    pic3

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                                      Here’s another pic with the entire controller layout shown so you can see that the L4 and PL buttons are unique from all the other buttons.

                                      pic3

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                                      Thank you so much for these! Exactly what I had been curious about ❤

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                                      • A atomicpoet@lemmy.world

                                        The original Steam Controller is undoubtedly one of the coolest pieces of gear I own—and one of the most innovative, too.

                                        I got mine right when it launched in 2015. I wanted to solve a very real problem: I was trying to turn my PC into a console.

                                        You see, Valve had Big Picture Mode, which truly turned your PC into a console-like experience. The problem was that some of my favorite PC games didn’t support controllers. They were keyboard-and-mouse only.

                                        But then—here comes the Steam Controller. Suddenly, I was able to reprogram all the inputs. I could take basic keys, like the spacebar, and map them to a button on the controller—like the A button. And once you did that, you could share your controller configuration with the Steam community, or reuse a config someone else already made. It was pretty awesome.

                                        And those dual trackpads? They were swank. Incredible for first-person shooters and real-time strategy games. They were the next best thing to a mouse. And because of the angle of the handles, it all felt very comfortable in the hand—probably the most comfortable controller experience I’ve ever had.

                                        It’s funny—just a little over five years ago, gamers hated it. Not because they ever used one, but because it was a failure. And as we all know about gamers, there’s nothing they hate more than a failure. It was dismissed as a novelty—something no one would ever use again.

                                        Well, Valve had the last laugh. A few years ago, they released the Steam Deck. And what do you know? It’s a direct evolution of the Steam Controller. And now everyone loves the Steam Deck.

                                        Just take a look at it—it’s got so many of the same things the Steam Controller had: dual trackpads, back paddles, the ability to remap buttons and customize layouts. Having owned a Steam Deck since launch, I can say this confidently: the most killer features on the Deck originated with the Steam Controller.

                                        That said, it wasn’t perfect. There were a few quirks I wish they had fixed. For one, it would’ve been nice if it had dual analog sticks instead of just one. Using a trackpad in place of a right stick is fine in theory, but let’s be real: a trackpad does not replace an analog stick.

                                        Also, unlike most modern controllers, this one didn’t have a rechargeable battery. You needed AA batteries. Now, to be fair, those batteries lasted a long time—but it still would’ve been nicer to just recharge it and forget about replacements.

                                        Then there’s the back paddles. Only two of them. In hindsight, yeah, Valve knew they needed to evolve. I’ve grown so used to having four back paddles on the Steam Deck. They’re incredibly useful—especially in games with lots of inputs. Just good to have.

                                        Still, this was one of the first mainstream controllers to even have back paddles. So hats off to Valve for that.

                                        Honestly, I really wish there was another Steam Controller on the market. I know Hori makes a licensed controller for the Steam Deck in Japan, but it’s missing a core feature the original had: the dual trackpads.

                                        To me, the dual trackpads make the Steam Deck experience. It’s something almost no other handheld has. My wife has a Legion Go, and it does have a trackpad—but only one. And honestly? That makes all the difference. It’s fine. But man… it would’ve been a better handheld with two.

                                        Definitely one of the most innovative controllers ever made.

                                        And yeah, I still use mine. I use it when I dock my handheld. Or when I’m on my living room PC.

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                                        I still have 2 and use them daily. Definitely want a controller based on Steam Deck layout.

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                                          I came from a background of using joystick controllers then picked up a Steam Controller and loved it since. And I still use it along side regular controllers, so probably bit more experience on both than other people.

                                          Build quality isn’t premium, but I prefer it for most of my games over my switch, xbox, 8bitdo, and sony controllers. Love it for games like Doom Eternal, Left 4 Dead 2, and The Finals.

                                          Just haven’t found a controller that provides me with the functionality the Steam Controller offers despite finding alternatives to xbox controllers with first the playstation with it having gyro the xbox doesn’t, and then 8bitdo with additional buttons and TMR sticks the playstation doesn’t. But, still no Steam Controller alternative, so I’m still using it.

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                                          I would argue that the reason you haven’t found a controller with the same functionality as the Steam controller is most people don’t like using overengineered trackpads to try to replicate sticks and d-pads that are much better at the job they’re designed to do. Only Steam keeps messing with this concept and… it really doesn’t work.

                                          The Steam controller was an attempt to bridge the gap of consolizing PC games back when people still thought of PC games as primarily keyboard and mouse. It’s… not a great way to play mouse and keyboard games on a TV and it’s mostly a step backwards from a normal controller for games with controller support. Which is the vast majority of PC games now anyway.

                                          And yeah, yeah, I know what you’re going to say. You do play mouse and keyboard games on it and love it, and you think it beats sticks because you can spend hours on Steam making overly complicated setups that allow you to macro all sorts of nonses into the trackpads and paddles and whatnot.

                                          That’s cool, if that’s what you want to do. Go nuts, have fun. But there’s a reason it isn’t a particularly mainstream way to engage with PC games.

                                          Gyro, though, is actually useful for first person shooters. It’s nowhere near a Steam-driven thing or a Steam controller-specific thing, but I do wish Microsoft would start building it into controllers so we could have it on Xinput as a standard and have an easier time using it at the Windows level instead of having to depend on Steam as a translation layer, particularly for non-Steam games.

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