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Steam data reveals PC gamers shifting from Windows to Linux

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  • I irateanteater@sh.itjust.works

    Do you not understand that “many” has a different meaning than “all”? Being able to point to one company that is actively blocking Proton doesn’t prove a single thing.

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    nuxcom_90percent@lemmy.zip
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    #16

    Said company being one of the biggest in gaming. Hoyoverse also tend to be varying levels of sketchy towards Proton (I think the current “meta” is to run the android version of Genshin Impact in an emulator?)

    Also, you still haven’t really identified what major 3rd parties are considering Linux a first class citizen versus just not actively blocking Proton and MAYBE testing against one specific SKU (Steam Deck).

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    • R rafoix@lemmy.zip

      MS optimization = maximize revenue streams = more ads = more spyware

      I don’t believe a thing MS says is ever meant to improve the customer experience.

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      sunzu2
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      #17

      Exactly… People love talking optimization and efficiency without realizing that they are being fucked over lol

      They are optimizing at your expense

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        commander@lemmy.world
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        #18

        It’ll be a slow grind. I view. Linux today similar to Macs in like 2003. Low single digit market share but increasing adoption. What doesn’t match is the lack of a huge company pushing out flagship advertised laptops/desktops with them that tie in to a very popular device like iPods. But today there’s so many more computers being used that a low single digit market share today is probably way more people than Macs back in 2003. And Linux gaming today is better than gaming on MacOS has ever been. Today MacOS is like 15%

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          sunzu2
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          Switched rest of the house to Linux due to win10 bullshit. Not going pretend like this is something that everyone can do but if you can do it for yourself, it takes only on Linux zealot per household 😉

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          • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

            Switched to linux (popos - so far so good) this month because fuck microsoft. yeah, some things aren’t perfect or require extra steps (modding, usually) but fuck microsoft. Fuck their AI shit, fuck their “recall” spyware, fuck their CEO that babbles about AI while laying off thousands of workers.

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            spacenoodle@lemmy.world
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            #20

            I’m a long-time Linux hacker and I’m currently running Pop! OS on my laptop and dev box. It’s the best distro I’ve found yet that Just Works™ (but naturally still allows for all the customization I might want).

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              addv4@lemmy.world
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              Honestly, I kinda suspect the tariffs are speeding this up. I recently upgraded my desktop due to the suspicion that prices are gonna go bonkers shortly and since I was basically rebuilding it anyway, I went ahead and switched my last windows PC to Linux. Been a lot smoother than I had suspected, highly recommended.

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              • S spacenoodle@lemmy.world

                I’m a long-time Linux hacker and I’m currently running Pop! OS on my laptop and dev box. It’s the best distro I’ve found yet that Just Works™ (but naturally still allows for all the customization I might want).

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                jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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                I’ve also run mint and ubuntu, but this was very smooth.

                The only problem so far are I get a crackling in my headphones in at least one game (guild wars 2), and I’m not sure how to diagnose that. One of the related problems of windows being so dominant is the internet is full of SEO slop for windows problems

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                • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

                  Microsoft is already responding to the potential shift. The upcoming ROG Xbox Ally X handheld from Microsoft and ASUS will reportedly ship with a gaming-optimized version of Windows 11 with a dedicated Xbox UI and interface that aims to streamline the experience while boosting in-game performance and overall handheld efficiency.

                  Given how much Microsoft wants to shove AI tools every where in Windows, I don’t think this optimisation will make much of a difference.

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                  DebatableRaccoon
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                  Given the popularity of the Steam Deck, the Xbox handheld would have to come free with the purchase of any Xbox exclusive game to stand a chance in that sphere, I think. The fact that it’s Win11 immediately turns me off and I say this as someone who still uses Windows.

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                    barnaclebutt
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                    I put KDE plasma on my elderly Mom’s surface laptop. She uses it mostly for organising photos, and she’s loving it. She complained that windows always “messes with her settings”. If she gets it, you can too.

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                      Ms. ArmoredThirteen
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                      I’m doing my part! Moving to a new country in a few days, part of the prep for that was to ditch my Windows desktop and I’ve been setting up a Linux laptop. Arch with KDE Plasma is so far the most enjoyable experience I’ve had with an OS

                      I’ve tried at various times to switch to Linux in the past. I’m enough of a turbo nerd you’d think it would have been easy for me but it was never quite there for one reason or another. This latest attempt though hot damn it’s all smooth sailing. I’ve even converted one of my friends to Mint and making progress convincing people who don’t want to use Windows 11 to just make the switch

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                      • BombOmOmB BombOmOm

                        Steam has over 132 million monthly active users

                        That month on month Linux expansion is ~422,000 computers. That is a shitload of people switching in just a single month.

                        OSes are sticky as hell. People don’t like switching. As Linux attracts these people away from Microsoft, MS is not going to get them back. And importantly, the adoption rate is high enough that many 3rd party companies are taking notice and releasing for both.

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                        saigot@lemmy.ca
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                        OSes are sticky as hell. People don’t like switching.

                        Every time they buy a new device they have to switch back to linux, because that device with very few exceptions ships with MS.

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                        • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

                          I’ve also run mint and ubuntu, but this was very smooth.

                          The only problem so far are I get a crackling in my headphones in at least one game (guild wars 2), and I’m not sure how to diagnose that. One of the related problems of windows being so dominant is the internet is full of SEO slop for windows problems

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                          wildly_utilize@infosec.pub
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                          Easy effects (flathub) helped improve my sound a lot

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                          • S spacenoodle@lemmy.world

                            I’m a long-time Linux hacker and I’m currently running Pop! OS on my laptop and dev box. It’s the best distro I’ve found yet that Just Works™ (but naturally still allows for all the customization I might want).

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                            rozodru@lemmy.world
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                            really? I found the customization for Pop/COSMIC extremely limited.

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                            • poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.deP poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de

                              MS is not going to get them back

                              Until they want to play a multiplayer game with their friends, that doesn’t work because of Anti-Cheat. Or maybe Linux is a bit more involved than they initially realized.

                              Most of those that switched probably won’t go back, but I think with Linux it’s going to be more than someone might think (however it’ll still grow, especially over the coming months with Windows 10 support ending).

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                              jovialsodium@lemmy.sdf.org
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                              Until they want to play a multiplayer game with their friends, that doesn’t work because of Anti-Cheat

                              It’s my understanding that anti-cheat CAN work in Linux and does with some games. The point is still valid of course. If a specific game someone wants to play doesn’t work, that’s going to be a frustrating experience. But still I foresee the percentage of Linux gamers will continue to grow. And gaming companies increasingly making sure to use anti-cheat software that does work with Linux, as that market share is becoming too large to ignore.

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                              • R rozodru@lemmy.world

                                really? I found the customization for Pop/COSMIC extremely limited.

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                                spacenoodle@lemmy.world
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                                Like I said, it allows for what I want. I don’t need to “rice” a setup that I’m trying to use to Get Shit Done. These days, the only time I’m rebuilding Linux from scratch is when I’m literally building an OS for a project.

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                                • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

                                  I’ve also run mint and ubuntu, but this was very smooth.

                                  The only problem so far are I get a crackling in my headphones in at least one game (guild wars 2), and I’m not sure how to diagnose that. One of the related problems of windows being so dominant is the internet is full of SEO slop for windows problems

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                                  spacenoodle@lemmy.world
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                                  I find Ubuntu to be buggier than it used to be, and snaps are inherently broken.

                                  Mint stands between Ubuntu and Pop! OS, but is still fiddlier than what I want for a daily driver.

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                                    D06M4
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                                    Won’t miss those years tweaking Windows to uninstall or disable bloatware and malware. I don’t mind if more or less people migrate to Linux, I’m just grateful to those who are making and improving such amazingly good distros. 💪💛

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                                    • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

                                      Microsoft is already responding to the potential shift. The upcoming ROG Xbox Ally X handheld from Microsoft and ASUS will reportedly ship with a gaming-optimized version of Windows 11 with a dedicated Xbox UI and interface that aims to streamline the experience while boosting in-game performance and overall handheld efficiency.

                                      Given how much Microsoft wants to shove AI tools every where in Windows, I don’t think this optimisation will make much of a difference.

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                                      And if we take this as an actual attempt at a better handheld experience, then this is just further proof that competition breeds better products for consumers.

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                                        zedotelhado@lemmy.world
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                                        As people already stated in the comments, this may not be a permanent change for some (they find out something like destiny 2 refuses to work on Linux without bans, some other tools needed for certain use cases are not there yet or windows only), but I think is super important people understand there are alternatives, and not only windows or Mac. Hopefully gives more people awareness that something else is out there. And would be really cool if we had more of the user base that is on the verge to throwing away the machine because of windows 11 restrictions and instead, gives machines a second chance.

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                                        • N nuxcom_90percent@lemmy.zip

                                          11% of 2% is nice but not “fucking crazy”

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                                          alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
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                                          #35

                                          At that rate we reach 100% Linux users in 34 months. (50% in 27)

                                          I’d call that quite significant.

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