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  • Ken ButlerN Ken Butler

    @sundogplanets I'm going to guess that NZ terms came from a different part of the UK than Saskatchewan, and in NZ it may be something like:

    - supper = small snack before bed
    - dinner/tea = main evening meal around 6pm or similar.

    I remember hearing "supper" used in BC to describe the main evening meal, so that might be a Western Canadian thing. (Don't think I've heard it in Ontario.)

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    @nxskok

    My sense is that it’s more about the timing of the agricultural to urban transition in Western Europe and the UK, and where and when the immigration flowed in relation to that.

    Western Canadian usage can be quite different but my partner and I (both originally from BC) both grew up with supper as the usual evening meal while dinner was a formal event or a large midday meal among farm families.

    BC had a very large wave of UK immigrants in the 1950s and early 1960s. In the early 1970s, over 40% of the adult BC population were UK immigrants. So, BC has quite a different history or English usage than elsewhere in Canada. Tea, or more specifically high tea, as a term for a late afternoon or early evening meal, was known and used among English expats but wasn’t as generally used.

    English speakers who settled on the Prairies also were mostly directly from the UK, or in the case of southern Alberta and Saskatchewan, were failed farming pioneers recruited from the midwestern and prairie United States.

    Ukrainians and other Eastern European settlers kept dinner as the large midday meal and supper as the evening meal. Two breakfasts were a thing.

    Meanwhile, in Quebec ‘diner’ remains the midday meal and ‘souper’ the later evening one, and déjeuner is breakfast in the old European tradition — also the usage in Belgium and Switzerland — while in France it’s petit déjeuner, déjeuner then diner.

    @sundogplanets

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    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

      Observations from a Canadian visiting New Zealand:

      -Making NZers say "Saskatchewan" is kind of hilarious
      -Roundabouts work really really well when everyone is used to them
      -Drip coffee apparently does not exist here (espresso-based coffee drinks only. Even at the one Dunkin Donuts I saw in a hideous mall I had to go inside in Auckland).
      -NZ signs do not play around (see example below)

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      Roy -- the dull one
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      @sundogplanets

      In the South of the US, we called the noontime main meal "dinner", and the main meal at 6pm was "supper". We drank a lot of tea, but did not have a customary time called "tea".

      Outside the South, "lunch" is the noontime main meal, and "dinner" is the main meal at 6pm.

      In Brazil, we once saw a small restaurant called "Lanches Makdonaldo", which I took to be "Lunches kinda like McDonald's", but I just learned "lanche" is kinda like NZ "tea".

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      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

        Today I learned that New Zealand "supper" seems to be more like what I'd imagine hobbits eat for meal number 6 (cheese, crackers, fruit, cookies) than Saskatchewan supper (the full meal you eat at the end of the day after a lot of hard farm labour)

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        Den of Earth
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        @sundogplanets
        Sounds about as confusing as
        the different French meal names
        between Québec and France

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        • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

          Today I learned that New Zealand "supper" seems to be more like what I'd imagine hobbits eat for meal number 6 (cheese, crackers, fruit, cookies) than Saskatchewan supper (the full meal you eat at the end of the day after a lot of hard farm labour)

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          Raymond Russell
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          @sundogplanets
          The best type of supper is the Scottish version when you go to the chippy and anything with chips is called a supper as in a fish supper, a sausage supper, a chicken supper etc. This is irrespective of the time of day. So you could buy a fish supper for lunch 🙂

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          • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

            Observations from a Canadian visiting New Zealand:

            -Making NZers say "Saskatchewan" is kind of hilarious
            -Roundabouts work really really well when everyone is used to them
            -Drip coffee apparently does not exist here (espresso-based coffee drinks only. Even at the one Dunkin Donuts I saw in a hideous mall I had to go inside in Auckland).
            -NZ signs do not play around (see example below)

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            Ben
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            #130
            -Making NZers anyone say "Saskatchewan" is kind of hilarious
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            • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

              Today I learned that New Zealand "supper" seems to be more like what I'd imagine hobbits eat for meal number 6 (cheese, crackers, fruit, cookies) than Saskatchewan supper (the full meal you eat at the end of the day after a lot of hard farm labour)

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              Ali
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              #131

              @sundogplanets Quick question - do you know if the lecture tomorrow night in New Plymouth needs an advanced booking? Very keen to attend

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              • Matt WilcoxM Matt Wilcox

                @AmeliasBrain @sundogplanets Interesting. In the Midlands of the UK we use “breakfast, dinner, tea” for the three main meals. But other bits of the country would use “breakfast, lunch, dinner”.

                It’s a mess of a language.

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                @mattwilcox @AmeliasBrain @sundogplanets

                Dinner is the main meal. So it depends if that's in the middle of the day or towards the end.

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                • AliA Ali

                  @sundogplanets Quick question - do you know if the lecture tomorrow night in New Plymouth needs an advanced booking? Very keen to attend

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                  Prof. Sam Lawler
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                  @Ali Sorry I have no idea how it works, it's organized by the local group.

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                  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                    Today I learned that New Zealand "supper" seems to be more like what I'd imagine hobbits eat for meal number 6 (cheese, crackers, fruit, cookies) than Saskatchewan supper (the full meal you eat at the end of the day after a lot of hard farm labour)

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                    Prof. Sam Lawler
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                    More NZ signs that are extremely honest

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                    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                      More NZ signs that are extremely honest

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                      Parsingphase
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                      #135

                      @sundogplanets Love the ambiguity of "do not encourage feeding … on anyone"

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                      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                        Today I learned that New Zealand "supper" seems to be more like what I'd imagine hobbits eat for meal number 6 (cheese, crackers, fruit, cookies) than Saskatchewan supper (the full meal you eat at the end of the day after a lot of hard farm labour)

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                        Rob Fahrni
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                        #136

                        @sundogplanets Your idea of supper matches that of what we had at the end of the day. A.K.A. Dinner.

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                        • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                          More NZ signs that are extremely honest

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                          AudhdDespiteNoisyAbleism 🇨🇦
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                          @sundogplanets I love so much the dumping rubbish one! 😆

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                          • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                            More NZ signs that are extremely honest

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                            Ben Brockert
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                            @sundogplanets Have you heard slip-slop-slap? Not as funny as "don't be a tosser" but another bit of local culture.

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                            • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                              More NZ signs that are extremely honest

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                              Sylvhem
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                              @sundogplanets As a French person, I can’t tell you how funny it is to read “big bite” and “breeding season” on the same poster.

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                              • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                Observations from a Canadian visiting New Zealand:

                                -Making NZers say "Saskatchewan" is kind of hilarious
                                -Roundabouts work really really well when everyone is used to them
                                -Drip coffee apparently does not exist here (espresso-based coffee drinks only. Even at the one Dunkin Donuts I saw in a hideous mall I had to go inside in Auckland).
                                -NZ signs do not play around (see example below)

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                                crab
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                                @sundogplanets don't know if you're still around there, but i had excellent filter coffee at Daily Daily Coffeemakers when I was in Auckland

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                                • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                  More NZ signs that are extremely honest

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                                  Eye
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                                  #141

                                  @sundogplanets

                                  Honesty is certainly the best policy. 👍

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                                  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                    More NZ signs that are extremely honest

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                                    G 🇮🇹
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                                    @sundogplanets I love the rubbish dumping one. Actually I thought of doing something like that autonomously but insulting litterers in rhyme.

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                                    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                      More NZ signs that are extremely honest

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                                      Ken Butler
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                                      @sundogplanets "tosser" is a nice piece of wordplay.

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                                      • AudhdDespiteNoisyAbleism 🇨🇦A AudhdDespiteNoisyAbleism 🇨🇦

                                        @sundogplanets I love so much the dumping rubbish one! 😆

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                                        Petra van Cronenburg
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                                        @adelinej @sundogplanets Me too! Good idea for our mayor to copy.

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                                        • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                          More NZ signs that are extremely honest

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                                          drbrain
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                                          @sundogplanets I imagine you can reuse the "Don't be a tosser" sign in your presentations

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