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I don't think we should do something just because Marx said so.

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  • midnightnettleM This user is from outside of this forum
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    I don't think we should do something just because Marx said so. We should do something if it makes sense.

    Kohei Saito, and maybe it gets better later, is doing a John Bellamy Foster and treating Marx like a prophet in this book.

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    • midnightnettleM midnightnettle

      I don't think we should do something just because Marx said so. We should do something if it makes sense.

      Kohei Saito, and maybe it gets better later, is doing a John Bellamy Foster and treating Marx like a prophet in this book.

      midnightnettleM This user is from outside of this forum
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      "Traditional communes are based on completely different principles of production from capitalism. The communes described by Maurer and Fraas were defined by strong internal social regulation, completely separate from the logic of commodity production found in capitalism. [...]
      The communes didn’t suffer from low levels of production and poverty stemming from their “underdevelopment” and “ignorance.” Rather, at moments when they could have worked harder and longer and raised their levels of production, they simply chose not to. And they thus avoided creating the kinds of power dynamics that would evolve into domination and subservience." From Slow Down by Kohei Saito

      Yeah idk how true or universal that is. The natural economies or communes in South Asia did not necessarily have the class dynamics inherent to capitalism, but they certainly had caste dynamics.

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      • midnightnettleM midnightnettle

        "Traditional communes are based on completely different principles of production from capitalism. The communes described by Maurer and Fraas were defined by strong internal social regulation, completely separate from the logic of commodity production found in capitalism. [...]
        The communes didn’t suffer from low levels of production and poverty stemming from their “underdevelopment” and “ignorance.” Rather, at moments when they could have worked harder and longer and raised their levels of production, they simply chose not to. And they thus avoided creating the kinds of power dynamics that would evolve into domination and subservience." From Slow Down by Kohei Saito

        Yeah idk how true or universal that is. The natural economies or communes in South Asia did not necessarily have the class dynamics inherent to capitalism, but they certainly had caste dynamics.

        Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @madhu_shrieks

        Based on my studies of 19th century German folk tales and the cultural context in which they took place, rural Germany definitely had their own class hierarchies.

        The farmers themselves could be fairly wealthy, but they were supported by a large underclass of tenant farmers, farmhands, and maids who could only expect poverty unless they "married up" - or emigrated into the new industrial centers, or even overseas.

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