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  • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J This user is from outside of this forum
    Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J This user is from outside of this forum
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    "I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."

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    Coinerella (www.coinerella.com)

    We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.

    #DigitalSovereignty #SelfHost #Cloudless

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    • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

      "I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."

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      Coinerella (www.coinerella.com)

      We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.

      #DigitalSovereignty #SelfHost #Cloudless

      Bernd KorzB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @jwildeboer let us know if we can help with Videohosting! @alugha

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      • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

        "I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."

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        Coinerella (www.coinerella.com)

        We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.

        #DigitalSovereignty #SelfHost #Cloudless

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        @jwildeboer That's excellent. I moved one of my clients from AWS to Scaleway. They're very small or it might have been a struggle. At the time the lack of IAC support was a problem. It's definitely getting better. I think if people don't move off US oligarchy cloud services soon they're in for a very rude awakening, so hopefully the market shift will trigger some investments in European sovereign infrastructure.

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        • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

          "I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."

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          Coinerella (www.coinerella.com)

          We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.

          #DigitalSovereignty #SelfHost #Cloudless

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          @jwildeboer interesting view but was harder meant or more complex more apt? Perhaps, as it is new learning, it being challenging would be expected anyhow.

          As more people favour European solutions, the documenation and supoort forums should improve no end.

          Thanks for the post.

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          • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

            "I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."

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            I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid.

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            Coinerella (www.coinerella.com)

            We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.

            #DigitalSovereignty #SelfHost #Cloudless

            Metin Seven 🎨M This user is from outside of this forum
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            @jwildeboer πŸ‘ Some more links related to the subject:

            Metin Seven 🎨 (@metin@graphics.social)

            Want to move from US-based apps and services to Europe-based ones? Useful links… https://european-alternatives.eu https://euroalternative.co https://www.switch-to.eu/en https://www.goeuropean.org https://eutechmap.com/map https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/%F0%9F%87%AA%F0%9F%87%BA-european-alternatives-to-american-apps.46070 https://www.privacytools.io https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools https://eurotechguide.com https://switching.software https://codeberg.org/ADHDefy/delightful-creative-tools Big freeware / open source list: https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/edit/3tPYpALSRBVZ5od-0YfEKp+l #EU #europe #USA #apps #software #tech #tips #FreeSoftware #free #FOSS #OpenSource

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            • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

              "I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."

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              "Made in EU" - it was harder than I thought.

              I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid.

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              Coinerella (www.coinerella.com)

              We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.

              #DigitalSovereignty #SelfHost #Cloudless

              β  β ΅ avukoA This user is from outside of this forum
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              @jwildeboer

              β€œBut "Made in EU" is still a choice you have to actively make, not one you can passively fall into.”

              Some of this is definitely something we have to work on; preferably together and out in the open.

              Some parts of it, will never go away. Part of becoming autonomous means taking back responsibility for choices, and dealing with the resulting friction, as well as being okay with having to negotiate and compromise in working together with others (people and systems).

              Precisely because that’s what autonomy means.

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              • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

                "I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."

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                "Made in EU" - it was harder than I thought.

                I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid.

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                Coinerella (www.coinerella.com)

                We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.

                #DigitalSovereignty #SelfHost #Cloudless

                Thomas H JonesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                I sometimes wonder whether, as a US-based person, it might not still make sense to move my vanity-domains to a non-US alternative to Linode (for my needs, a hyperscaler's pricing structure just never makes sense). The idea first popped up when Linode got bought by Akmai, but was really only ever notional. With the fuckery around Trump 2.0, it was a smidge more than just notional ...but still a very low-priority brain-bug.

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