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  3. I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

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  • Gail ParentiG Gail Parenti

    @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter And when insurers make sure that policies exclude loss caused by AI errors (and they will), the whole house of cards will collapse.

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    @gparenti @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter This is huge. But don't worry, the TOS & EULA you signed to start using the product means you can't sue, and your have to accept arbitration.
    The corp lawyers are covering their asses ( assets.)

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    • Gail ParentiG Gail Parenti

      @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter And when insurers make sure that policies exclude loss caused by AI errors (and they will), the whole house of cards will collapse.

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      @gparenti @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter

      Insurers don’t “forget” to exclude software and AI screw-upsn, they write those exclusions very carefully. Standard business insurance won’t touch losses caused by buggy code or rogue algorithms. If you want coverage for software mistakes, you have to explicitly buy it — otherwise it’s your problem.

      Commercial software for the last 65 years is EXCLUDED from insurance...Exclusions are usually on the first page of software manuals (You lucky this shit runs at all)

      Whats that other thing that makes shit up all the time... hallucination and all that?

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        @SecurityWriter reminds me of the million dollar billboards dotcoms bought weeks before the bubble burst.

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        • Patrick H. LaukeP Patrick H. Lauke

          @anne_twain @SecurityWriter THEY are the ones that should be replaced by AI

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          @patrick_h_lauke i know we’re all a bit biased here, but I have legit not heard a single good argument about any downside to replacing these dumbass ceos with an LLM agent. If everyone else keeps their jobs and works competently, in what way would a difference be detectable in the end?

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          • WulfyN Wulfy

            @gparenti @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter

            Insurers don’t “forget” to exclude software and AI screw-upsn, they write those exclusions very carefully. Standard business insurance won’t touch losses caused by buggy code or rogue algorithms. If you want coverage for software mistakes, you have to explicitly buy it — otherwise it’s your problem.

            Commercial software for the last 65 years is EXCLUDED from insurance...Exclusions are usually on the first page of software manuals (You lucky this shit runs at all)

            Whats that other thing that makes shit up all the time... hallucination and all that?

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            @n_dimension @gparenti @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter Plenty of insurers are using AI themselves--but they cover their asses by running AI copy/contract terms past their in-house lawyers.

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              @SecurityWriter this really sounds familiar

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                @SecurityWriter Tried to tell a good friend that the AI bubble was a Tech Wreck 2.0 but he was not having it. Sigh.

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                • GPG GP

                  @ramsey @SecurityWriter For me it’s not just that, it’s the cost/revenue and ancillary stuff that folk just never think about. The environment, ethics, society impact, security and whether it does what it says on the tin are one thing (and valid). But when the sums don’t work out and confidence shifts…there’s no stopping that.

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                  @gpshewan @SecurityWriter That’s what I mean. The CEOs are already beginning the shift to spin what’s coming, to make it more palatable to investors, because the bill is about to come due, and the promises haven’t been kept.

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                  • GPG GP

                    @ramsey @SecurityWriter For me it’s not just that, it’s the cost/revenue and ancillary stuff that folk just never think about. The environment, ethics, society impact, security and whether it does what it says on the tin are one thing (and valid). But when the sums don’t work out and confidence shifts…there’s no stopping that.

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                    @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter Another is that at least the US government won't be likely to toss a bailout with the amount of gridlock in DC, so they're not easily going to get dump trucks of free money.

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                      @SecurityWriter Told my boss I sincerely thought the AI bubble was on the verge of popping and he went home.

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                        @baldur@toot.cafe, here's some hopeful evidence to counter a hopelessness thread you started the other day
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                          @SecurityWriter @User47 🍿🍿🍿

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                            @SecurityWriter
                            Some poor intern will eventually get blamed.

                            What happens when something goes wrong?
                            Who's gonna get blamed?
                            Who's responsible to fix it?
                            What happens when someone gets injured or killed and the lawyers enter the room?

                            What happens when they can't get someone to fix it because no one will touch it with a 3.048 m pole?

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                            • ReverendDR ReverendD

                              @SecurityWriter Told my boss I sincerely thought the AI bubble was on the verge of popping and he went home.

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                              @ReverendD @SecurityWriter probably had himself a little cry.

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                                @SecurityWriter

                                One thing I learned, maybe it was this month? State government agencies, some of them, are forcing their employees to use AI stuff so the AI businesses can benefit from government contracts.

                                A nice lady used AI, and I used my phone to search. I found more stuff than she did. 😛

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                                • unlofl [Promoted Toot]U unlofl [Promoted Toot]

                                  @SecurityWriter luckily, I upgraded my home lab systems and added a bunch of memory a year or two ago.

                                  I'm biding my time, there's gonna be cheap gear for liquidation! $200 rack mount servers for everyone!

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                                  @unlofl @SecurityWriter this is a good point that's getting me kind of excited about the future of the web. If hardware floods the market because corporations give up on making AI profitable, and internet users are all tired of the shit those corporations have been pulling with it... I bet we're approaching a turning point towards decentralization and community infrastructure

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                                    @SecurityWriter

                                    Also, the genius who figures out what to do with all that CPU they are building out will be in a good negotiating position.

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                                    • Crovanian (CamstonIsland)C Crovanian (CamstonIsland)

                                      @patrick_h_lauke i know we’re all a bit biased here, but I have legit not heard a single good argument about any downside to replacing these dumbass ceos with an LLM agent. If everyone else keeps their jobs and works competently, in what way would a difference be detectable in the end?

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                                      @Crovanian @patrick_h_lauke the only downsides I can think of are the ecological downsides of using LLMs, the social implications of letting a technology with oppression built in make all the executive decisions, and extra money going to the shareholders
                                      Then again, considering CEOs tend to have private jets, be white supremacists, and be one of the shareholders... I'm not sure anything would actually change 😂

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                                        @SecurityWriter as a Project Manager that means my profession will get a boost because someone has to organize the recovery.

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                                        • matthewcroughanM matthewcroughan
                                          I've seen so many AI CEOs or people with close relationships to projects driven by AI getting real mad at the lack of positive sentiment to their work too. See https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues/10416 and https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/423186#issuecomment-3919469369
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                                          @matthewcroughan @SecurityWriter whew, "Home Buyers" in a privacy policy

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