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  • Jones MurphyJ Jones Murphy

    @Geri @Remittancegirl @GeofCox several, really fascinating. For example, Eurasia has the vast majority of the world’s domesticable species, but Africa has very few. Eurasia is East-West, and the same crops grow at the same latitudes from Atlantic to Pacific. Africa is North-South and has far more climate zones including the enormous Sahara. Really interesting research.

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    @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @jonesmurphy yes, but, if you pardon the pun, industry was forged on steel

    The Bessemer means of making steel gave the UK economic hegemony in the 1850s and the 1860s

    My contention was those circumstances were not replicated elsewhere?

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    • Geri ❤️G Geri ❤️

      @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @jonesmurphy yes, but, if you pardon the pun, industry was forged on steel

      The Bessemer means of making steel gave the UK economic hegemony in the 1850s and the 1860s

      My contention was those circumstances were not replicated elsewhere?

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      @Geri @Remittancegirl @GeofCox by the 1850s, Britain had already stolen staggering wealth from Africa, the Americas, India and neighboring countries. That provided the leisure to innovate with steel while millions laboured around the world for Britain’s benefit.

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      • Jones MurphyJ Jones Murphy

        @Geri @Remittancegirl @GeofCox by the 1850s, Britain had already stolen staggering wealth from Africa, the Americas, India and neighboring countries. That provided the leisure to innovate with steel while millions laboured around the world for Britain’s benefit.

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        @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @jonesmurphy surely, if other parts of the world had been conquered then the industrial revolution would have started in other parts of the world

        I don't buy into the "had leisure time to tinker around" idea

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        • Geri ❤️G Geri ❤️

          @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @jonesmurphy surely, if other parts of the world had been conquered then the industrial revolution would have started in other parts of the world

          I don't buy into the "had leisure time to tinker around" idea

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          @Geri @Remittancegirl @GeofCox I don't follow your logic, and I literally do logic for a living. You're telling me that you don't believe that the profits from genocidally robbing the biggest Empire ever provided unprecedented, widespread leisure to Britons?

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          • Jones MurphyJ Jones Murphy

            @Geri @Remittancegirl @GeofCox I don't follow your logic, and I literally do logic for a living. You're telling me that you don't believe that the profits from genocidally robbing the biggest Empire ever provided unprecedented, widespread leisure to Britons?

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            @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @jonesmurphy yes, they provided leisure time but .....

            But you can have all the time in the world but it means little if you are not near good quality coking coal, iron ore and water

            Australia has this

            China too

            Moreover, with the advent of the industrial revolution slavery became unimportant and Britian was the first to abolish it

            I do not need to geriplain this to you xx

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            • Geri ❤️G Geri ❤️

              @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @jonesmurphy yes, they provided leisure time but .....

              But you can have all the time in the world but it means little if you are not near good quality coking coal, iron ore and water

              Australia has this

              China too

              Moreover, with the advent of the industrial revolution slavery became unimportant and Britian was the first to abolish it

              I do not need to geriplain this to you xx

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              @Geri @Remittancegirl @GeofCox if you have a massive Empire, you can steal resources galore. That's exactly what happened.

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              • Jones MurphyJ Jones Murphy

                @Geri @Remittancegirl @GeofCox if you have a massive Empire, you can steal resources galore. That's exactly what happened.

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                @Geri @Remittancegirl @GeofCox Europeans didn't just steal resources. They stole a LOT of ideas and inventions. They literally stole and enslaved brilliant inventors.

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                • Geri ❤️G Geri ❤️

                  @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @jonesmurphy does the mind rule the body or does the body rule the mind?

                  Is racism an atavistic trait, wrapped in promotion of one's genes and fear of another's that since the Stone Age man has never escaped from ?

                  Are we homo inferior ?

                  Xx

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                  @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @jonesmurphy @Geri

                  "Being racist"/"not being racist" is not a binary variable.

                  "Not being racist" is a _process_ - one where we continually reexamine our behaviors and assumptions.

                  That requires work. How many political leaders in the Western World have done this work?

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                  • Jones MurphyJ Jones Murphy

                    @Geri @Remittancegirl @GeofCox if you have a massive Empire, you can steal resources galore. That's exactly what happened.

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                    @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @jonesmurphy nope, coking coal was removed from North East (County Durham and Northumberland) and Cumbria (West Cumbria).

                    Xx

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                    • Jones MurphyJ Jones Murphy

                      @Geri @Remittancegirl @GeofCox Europeans didn't just steal resources. They stole a LOT of ideas and inventions. They literally stole and enslaved brilliant inventors.

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                      @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @jonesmurphy nope Bessemer patented over 192 different inventions. He had a unique and original mind who could think of different ideas including such things as a means to stop motion sickness on ships xx

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                      • Geri ❤️G Geri ❤️

                        @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @jonesmurphy nope Bessemer patented over 192 different inventions. He had a unique and original mind who could think of different ideas including such things as a means to stop motion sickness on ships xx

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                        @Geri @Remittancegirl @GeofCox millions with unique and original minds were killed by the British and the European Diaspora simply for being caught reading and writing:

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                        • Geri ❤️G Geri ❤️

                          @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @jonesmurphy nope, coking coal was removed from North East (County Durham and Northumberland) and Cumbria (West Cumbria).

                          Xx

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                          @Geri @Remittancegirl @GeofCox initially, sure. Then, as you point out, Indigenous Australians were slaughtered by Brits and their coal is still being mined by the descendants of the genocidal settlers. It's been similar all over the world wherever the Europeans attacked.

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                          • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                            @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @jonesmurphy @Geri

                            "Being racist"/"not being racist" is not a binary variable.

                            "Not being racist" is a _process_ - one where we continually reexamine our behaviors and assumptions.

                            That requires work. How many political leaders in the Western World have done this work?

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                            @juergen_hubert @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @Geri how many VOTERS have done this work.

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                            • Jones MurphyJ Jones Murphy

                              @juergen_hubert @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @Geri how many VOTERS have done this work.

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                              @jonesmurphy @Remittancegirl @GeofCox @Geri

                              Not enough. Not _nearly_ enough.

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