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  • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

    @meganmariehart @staatstheaterdarmstadt Before getting them an own instance, let them fill their account! Without communication, no followers.
    Mastodon prepares an entry for newcomers where they can find local instances instead of the one big. They can move at every moment.
    My experience with social media (I work professionally with these): With much less followers you get much more interaction and relations to your audience in the Fediverse. But only if you are communicating actively. The ratio

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    @meganmariehart for me was about 3:1: 3 times as much followers on Twitter but the same amount of interaction.

    The problem is that the bosses of social media teams need to relearn: quality over quantity. It is inherent in algorithm-driven profit platforms that clicks and numbers count because of advertising. And there is no reason to want to artificially imitate this in a medium made for people. There are now even studies showing that more and more people are turning away from algorithmic

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    • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

      … to demonstrate that Fediverse posts are worth the time and effort. Perhaps there is also an argument for a feature request: maybe there should be audience metrics for toots?! Though I imagine that could be difficult due to Federation. Again, I have no idea if one already gets numbers and insight by running an instance.)

      Perhaps we can move beyond numbers in the long run, but for now, I fear people enjoy them even if they gain nothing from them. Kinda like a game highscore, I suppose.

      7/7

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      @meganmariehart

      Agree!!!

      In fact I don't want them to be on X, Whatsapp etc and should also not be allowed to use Windows ideally.

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      • Marcos DioneM Marcos Dione

        @meganmariehart well, I think our experiments are biased; or at least should show a far upper limit of reach via boosts.

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        @mdione Yes, that makes sense. We didn’t start the experiments from new accounts, and since my experiment appeared in the trending feed, it has probably reached far more people than it should have! (But on the other hand, if I want to convince people and organizations to join the Fediverse, why not do so with a best-case scenario! 😂 )

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        • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

          I feel like I get more meaningful interaction (and perhaps even ticket sales!) from a Mastodon post about an upcoming show than from posts on other social media platforms. But a “feeling” dosen’t help when trying to convince people to join. Or to get active. My current theater @staatstheaterdarmstadt is on here since 2022 – zero posts! I would like them to get active or even set up their own instance. I think every theater should have its own instance! It can’t be more work than FB and IG.
          5/7

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          @meganmariehart @staatstheaterdarmstadt Even if you don't want actively post you could have your RSS feed go into your Mastodon account. Then you just need to check notifications for comments and toot-toots.

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          • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

            @meganmariehart for me was about 3:1: 3 times as much followers on Twitter but the same amount of interaction.

            The problem is that the bosses of social media teams need to relearn: quality over quantity. It is inherent in algorithm-driven profit platforms that clicks and numbers count because of advertising. And there is no reason to want to artificially imitate this in a medium made for people. There are now even studies showing that more and more people are turning away from algorithmic

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            @meganmariehart rubbish, especially young people.
            What's missing in the Fedi are local connections when you depend on real visitors. Hashtags don't work satisfactorily for this. Our groups are only boosting bots. One reason why the museum for which I unofficially do storytelling is officially on Facebook and Instagram: it is that that's where the real visitors are.
            I can only encourage people to focus on communication rather than numbers. But this requires people power within the institutions.

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            • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

              @meganmariehart rubbish, especially young people.
              What's missing in the Fedi are local connections when you depend on real visitors. Hashtags don't work satisfactorily for this. Our groups are only boosting bots. One reason why the museum for which I unofficially do storytelling is officially on Facebook and Instagram: it is that that's where the real visitors are.
              I can only encourage people to focus on communication rather than numbers. But this requires people power within the institutions.

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              @NatureMC @meganmariehart
              Plus, I would like to add, it takes time to build your audience since you don't get any "help" by inbuilt algorithms. On the other hand, you don't need to try and understand how the algorithms work 😉
              I think we will see more people joining open platforms in the long run. When you're socialised with the numbers game, it can be hard to re-learn and focus on the interaction.

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              • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                @metalbrawler I wanted to test the potential reach of a post without hashtags, basically just for the sake of discussion. My home theater has a Mastodon account since 2022 but never posted anything! Perhaps I can convince them to get active if I can show them a posts potential, and maybe other theaters and artists will join. Fingers crossed!🤞
                Thank you!

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                @metalbrawler @meganmariehart 💪🤞🍀

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                • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

                  @meganmariehart rubbish, especially young people.
                  What's missing in the Fedi are local connections when you depend on real visitors. Hashtags don't work satisfactorily for this. Our groups are only boosting bots. One reason why the museum for which I unofficially do storytelling is officially on Facebook and Instagram: it is that that's where the real visitors are.
                  I can only encourage people to focus on communication rather than numbers. But this requires people power within the institutions.

                  Petra van CronenburgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @meganmariehart I also recommend to follow accounts like @haubles or @mellifluousbox and @MastodonEngineering for informations about new developments especially at #mastodon

                  #followFriday

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                  • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                    BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                    Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

                    (edit: Why, you ask? Long thread coming up … 1/7)

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                    @meganmariehart eh? What’s going on? What’s happened? Where am I? Do the plants need watering?

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                    • AndreaA Andrea

                      @NatureMC @meganmariehart
                      Plus, I would like to add, it takes time to build your audience since you don't get any "help" by inbuilt algorithms. On the other hand, you don't need to try and understand how the algorithms work 😉
                      I think we will see more people joining open platforms in the long run. When you're socialised with the numbers game, it can be hard to re-learn and focus on the interaction.

                      Petra van CronenburgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @andijah Indeed. The only algorithms on Mastodon are transparent by number of interactions in the Trending TL. This is how I discovered Megan's post.

                      What many externs can't imagine: to get away from the algorithm driven big platforms feels like training to become sober. And then happens the wonder when you feel completely liberated, you can finally talk about your own topics again. Without fear to get shadowbanned or silenced for a word like climate change or diversity.

                      @meganmariehart

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                      • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                        (Nobody actually asked why, but I imagine someone must have thought it.) Curiosity is one reason, the other is a recent offline discussion about whether we are hindering a more wide spread adoption of the Fediverse because we dislike advertisements. It’s possible that brands and “influencer”-type people aren’t getting the kick they’re used to from the Fediverse because there are no metrics showing how many people have seen a post. Perhaps it’s different with your own instance – I don’t know!
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                        @meganmariehart
                        One of the many reasons I like Mastodon is that there are no brands and influencers. I follow people who share my interests. Sure they have an influence and sometimes someone will advise I use/don't use a particular product but that's based on their own experience not the £$ they are being paid. If any professional influencers do show up on my timeline they'll be blocked.

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                        • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

                          @andijah Indeed. The only algorithms on Mastodon are transparent by number of interactions in the Trending TL. This is how I discovered Megan's post.

                          What many externs can't imagine: to get away from the algorithm driven big platforms feels like training to become sober. And then happens the wonder when you feel completely liberated, you can finally talk about your own topics again. Without fear to get shadowbanned or silenced for a word like climate change or diversity.

                          @meganmariehart

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                          @NatureMC and, in case you're able to run your own instance, no one can take away your "playground". @meganmariehart

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                          • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                            BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                            Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

                            (edit: Why, you ask? Long thread coming up … 1/7)

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                            RE: https://mastodon.social/@meganmariehart/116044953904582813

                            @meganmariehart never "quote"d before. Thanks.

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                            • AndreaA Andrea

                              @NatureMC and, in case you're able to run your own instance, no one can take away your "playground". @meganmariehart

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                              @andijah Indeed. But in my experience, social media teams in many organisations are completely overwhelmed at first – it's a hurdle. That's why I always recommend: get there first, then get communicating. And once you have the technical know-how and capacity, you can build something of your own. Unfortunately, most teams these days are paid very poorly to make the minimum only.

                              @meganmariehart

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                              • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

                                @andijah Indeed. But in my experience, social media teams in many organisations are completely overwhelmed at first – it's a hurdle. That's why I always recommend: get there first, then get communicating. And once you have the technical know-how and capacity, you can build something of your own. Unfortunately, most teams these days are paid very poorly to make the minimum only.

                                @meganmariehart

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                                @NatureMC by the way, one of the "best" examples how a company can make use of the fediverse is "Andreas Bürsten GmbH" - they don't try to sell you stuff, but they sell stuff by just being approachable and communicating. Don't want to @ them, they're getting enough "spam" from me anyway following my little song. @meganmariehart

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                                • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                                  BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                                  Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

                                  (edit: Why, you ask? Long thread coming up … 1/7)

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                                  @meganmariehart That's a great question! It's interesting to see how different strategies impact reach. I'm really curious about your findings—what have you noticed so far? 😊

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                                  • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                                    (Nobody actually asked why, but I imagine someone must have thought it.) Curiosity is one reason, the other is a recent offline discussion about whether we are hindering a more wide spread adoption of the Fediverse because we dislike advertisements. It’s possible that brands and “influencer”-type people aren’t getting the kick they’re used to from the Fediverse because there are no metrics showing how many people have seen a post. Perhaps it’s different with your own instance – I don’t know!
                                    2/7

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                                    @meganmariehart Or maybe they just can't monetize their drivel?

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                                    • Ian K TindaleU Ian K Tindale

                                      @meganmariehart eh? What’s going on? What’s happened? Where am I? Do the plants need watering?

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                                      @u0421793 @meganmariehart

                                      Yes, of course the "plants" need watering...

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                                      • AndreaA Andrea

                                        @NatureMC by the way, one of the "best" examples how a company can make use of the fediverse is "Andreas Bürsten GmbH" - they don't try to sell you stuff, but they sell stuff by just being approachable and communicating. Don't want to @ them, they're getting enough "spam" from me anyway following my little song. @meganmariehart

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                                        @andijah 👍 Good example!

                                        @meganmariehart

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                                        • Marcos DioneM Marcos Dione

                                          @meganmariehart I once run an experiment similar to yours. I asked people to boost a toot with a URL to a webserver I controlled, no hashtags either. It got <3k boosts. Yours will probably get similar numbers. At that point, IIRC, the Fedi (or was it just Mastodon?) was ~2M accounts, so it reached ~15% of the net. I wrote abut it here:

                                          The mastodon effect: meta discussion

                                          Yesterday1 I did something that I don't know how to qualify. At the beginning I was just playing a silly thing where I registered a new domain on a dynamic domain service. I set up Apache on my home s

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                                          .:: Marcos Dione/StyXman's glob ::. (www.grulic.org.ar)

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                                          @mdione I've just finished reading your blog post. Very cool, I wish I had read this before making my notifications useless (and they are now!) It seems that the Fediverse is not the best place for spontaneous experiments! I’m not sure if the idea was so bad that I should delete the post, or just wait! Think I’ll wait

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