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  • Joe BayesJ Joe Bayes

    @cstross You...you had to wire your own plugs? Seriously?

    How many people killed themselves each year because they didn't know how to do it properly and were too impatient to wait for someone who did?

    M. GrégoireM This user is from outside of this forum
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    M. Grégoire
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    @cstross @jbayes
    Yes, why were people wiring their own plugs?

    I'll bet ChatGPT could give me a story...

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

      JonO This user is from outside of this forum
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      @cstross it does not look possible to physically plug this in. If so, that obviously calls for an "AI"-generated adapter to go with the plug!

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

        Dave RahardjaD This user is from outside of this forum
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        @cstross BLIVE

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

          Notes for Americans:

          1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

          2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

          3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

          C.S.StrowbridgeC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #51

          @cstross

          "1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs)."

          This is such a stupid thing.

          The plug itself is very good, but having to wire it yourself is painfully dumb.

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

            Notes for Americans:

            1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

            2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

            3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

            Dave RahardjaD This user is from outside of this forum
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            Dave Rahardja
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            #52

            @cstross Luckily, you can’t follow its instructions in this case because there is no black wire in the standard UK three-wire bundle.

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

              Notes for Americans:

              1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

              2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

              3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

              Wayne WernerK This user is from outside of this forum
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              Wayne Werner
              wrote last edited by
              #53

              @cstross FWIW ChatGPT wants to be WebMD 2.0 so there's that 😑

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              • Joe BayesJ Joe Bayes

                @cstross You...you had to wire your own plugs? Seriously?

                How many people killed themselves each year because they didn't know how to do it properly and were too impatient to wait for someone who did?

                Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
                Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
                Fish Id Wardrobe
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                #54

                @jbayes @cstross presumably not none, since by the time i was a kid in the 70s, they were teaching it in school…

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                  @cstross

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                    Roy -- the dull one
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                    @cstross

                    Okay, you've convinced me! Now I'm ready to support a million satellite data centers.
                    /s

                    NO I'M NOT! I'm having another IRONY attack, folks! DO NOT seek AI advice on anything electrical, or flammable, or romantic! DO NOT buy into zany schemes for becoming a 'Kardashev Level II Civilization' by making Low Earth Orbit into The Junkyard In The Sky!

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                      CM HarringtonO This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @cstross @drahardja I mean, they don’t even SHOW the purple wire.

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                        Notes for Americans:

                        1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                        2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                        3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                        Jack Yan (甄爵恩)J This user is from outside of this forum
                        Jack Yan (甄爵恩)J This user is from outside of this forum
                        Jack Yan (甄爵恩)
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                        #58

                        @cstross Wow, did not know number 1. I wonder when this practice stopped in New Zealand. I remember my dad wiring plugs but then that was his trade.

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                          Notes for Americans:

                          1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                          2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                          3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                          Tofu Golem
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                          @cstross
                          If you want a computer to produce wiring diagrams like this correctly, you need something called an expertise system, which is a very different beast from the various technologies we refer to as AI.

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                            Notes for Americans:

                            1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                            2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                            3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                            I am Jack's Found 404F This user is from outside of this forum
                            I am Jack's Found 404F This user is from outside of this forum
                            I am Jack's Found 404
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                            @cstross

                            But maybe if we let "AI" wire its own plugs...

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                            • Nigel WadsworthN Nigel Wadsworth

                              @cstross I just asked Gemini to create one for us in Australia. Might try it later… just not sure…

                              My camera shoots fascistsM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @nygl @cstross

                              Looks legit.
                              I just cannot believe people put any faith in any of this nonsense 🤦‍♂️

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                Notes for Americans:

                                1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                CodeByJeff - Now with AI!C This user is from outside of this forum
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                                CodeByJeff - Now with AI!
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                                @cstross Why is this always "Notes for Americans"?

                                Are Americans the only people in the world who aren't British?

                                Do you think British people born after 1992 have a fucking clue why this is funny?

                                Have you ever tried to reconcile your feelings of "America isn't the center of everything" with your obsession to make America the center of everything?

                                "For people outside the UK" would have been a far better (and more inclusive) way to start your post

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                                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                  RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                  Notes for Americans:

                                  1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                  2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                  3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                  LisPiL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  LisPi
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                                  @cstross I'd kind of hope the government actually provides a guide for citizen on their websites and/or other convenient information outlets.
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                                  • I am Jack's Found 404F I am Jack's Found 404

                                    @cstross

                                    But maybe if we let "AI" wire its own plugs...

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                                    @float13 @cstross

                                    You're on to something there!

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                                    • ParsingphaseP Parsingphase

                                      @cstross Ok I think I know who did the wiring in my house now. They literally painted the end of the wire when they used the wrong one.

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                                      @parsingphase @cstross ayfkm

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                                      • Eric GoodwinA Eric Goodwin

                                        @cstross Blive implies the existence of a Bdead

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                                        @cstross @auxonic blive implies the existence of bneutral and bground?

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                                        • JonO Jon

                                          @cstross I figure at the rate of the Accelerando, we are no more than weeks away from "agentic AI" demanding access to people's financial accounts. Hopefully some of those people will be billionaires drinking their own Kool-Aid.

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                                          @oddhack @cstross

                                          Don't worry, your bank will do it for you.

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