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It's staggering to me how many use cases for AI revolve around summarizing overly long work documents and memos, a use case that doesn't need to exist if your company has a culture of concise communication.

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  • Justin PotJ This user is from outside of this forum
    Justin PotJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    It's staggering to me how many use cases for AI revolve around summarizing overly long work documents and memos, a use case that doesn't need to exist if your company has a culture of concise communication.

    Justin PotJ Agyei GyasiA EliasE Mike AndersonM Simon EiltingE 5 Replies Last reply
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    • Justin PotJ Justin Pot

      It's staggering to me how many use cases for AI revolve around summarizing overly long work documents and memos, a use case that doesn't need to exist if your company has a culture of concise communication.

      Justin PotJ This user is from outside of this forum
      Justin PotJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      Like, let’s put aside how executive-brained this particular use case is. The crazy thing is how preventable the need is, if the people in your company are good at communicating. We’re spending billions on data centers to avoid reading documents we didn’t need to begin with.

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      • Justin PotJ Justin Pot

        It's staggering to me how many use cases for AI revolve around summarizing overly long work documents and memos, a use case that doesn't need to exist if your company has a culture of concise communication.

        Agyei GyasiA This user is from outside of this forum
        Agyei GyasiA This user is from outside of this forum
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        @jhpot FACTS. Capitalism encourages the production of human slop to justify middle management and consulting paychecks. And even THAT summarization use case is certainly overblown hype!...

        Pip (@pip@infosec.exchange)

        @ieeespectrum@threads.net Hi, this article includes a major technical error that needs to be corrected: The "Simple Article Summaries" feature, does not summarize text. LLMs are incapable of doing so, and for the IEEE to imply the opposite is extremely problematic. More details here: https://ea.rna.nl/2024/05/27/when-chatgpt-summarises-it-actually-does-nothing-of-the-kind/

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        • Justin PotJ Justin Pot

          It's staggering to me how many use cases for AI revolve around summarizing overly long work documents and memos, a use case that doesn't need to exist if your company has a culture of concise communication.

          EliasE This user is from outside of this forum
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          @jhpot I imagine it often happens like this:

          Person A has the job of communicating something to others. Person A writes a concise text which is given as input to an "AI" system which auto-generates a lengthy document. The long machine-generated bullshit text is then sent to the poor recipient person B, who resorts to "AI" to summarize it since they don't want to read anything that long.

          I just wonder what is gained compared to A just giving the concise text to B and skipping the "AI" part.

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          • Justin PotJ Justin Pot

            Like, let’s put aside how executive-brained this particular use case is. The crazy thing is how preventable the need is, if the people in your company are good at communicating. We’re spending billions on data centers to avoid reading documents we didn’t need to begin with.

            CassandrichD This user is from outside of this forum
            CassandrichD This user is from outside of this forum
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            @jhpot I think the point is precisely that it's executive-brained. The documents cannot be short even if they're concise because there's a lot of information. And executives don't trust their subordinates with actual domain expertise so they want to be able to get summaries of what's in the documents that let them pretend they understand and micromanage the people they distrust.

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            • CassandrichD Cassandrich

              @jhpot I think the point is precisely that it's executive-brained. The documents cannot be short even if they're concise because there's a lot of information. And executives don't trust their subordinates with actual domain expertise so they want to be able to get summaries of what's in the documents that let them pretend they understand and micromanage the people they distrust.

              Justin PotJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              @dalias You're completely right.

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              • Justin PotJ Justin Pot

                Like, let’s put aside how executive-brained this particular use case is. The crazy thing is how preventable the need is, if the people in your company are good at communicating. We’re spending billions on data centers to avoid reading documents we didn’t need to begin with.

                eazyE This user is from outside of this forum
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                @jhpot I feel like we have AI writing documents for AI to summarize.

                Kind of like twenty years ago, the founder of TurnItIn also owned a university paper writing service. He could catch the plagiarizers because he sold them the papers TII caught.

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                • Justin PotJ Justin Pot

                  It's staggering to me how many use cases for AI revolve around summarizing overly long work documents and memos, a use case that doesn't need to exist if your company has a culture of concise communication.

                  Mike AndersonM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @jhpot and the next most common use cases are generation of large documents from a set of bullet points.

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                  • Justin PotJ Justin Pot

                    Like, let’s put aside how executive-brained this particular use case is. The crazy thing is how preventable the need is, if the people in your company are good at communicating. We’re spending billions on data centers to avoid reading documents we didn’t need to begin with.

                    jerN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @jhpot I think to some extent this is actually the reverse: we are summarizing long documents to justify spending billions building data centers

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                    • Justin PotJ Justin Pot

                      It's staggering to me how many use cases for AI revolve around summarizing overly long work documents and memos, a use case that doesn't need to exist if your company has a culture of concise communication.

                      Simon EiltingE This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @jhpot I met someone once who told me their entire job consisted of creating long wordy write-ups of work done by their subordinates (which they used AI for, obviously) to send them to their supervisor who would then use LLM to have it summarised, and they kept telling me how great this technology is...

                      ...and seemingly didn't understand that nothing in this entire process could possibly add value.

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                      • Simon EiltingE Simon Eilting

                        @jhpot I met someone once who told me their entire job consisted of creating long wordy write-ups of work done by their subordinates (which they used AI for, obviously) to send them to their supervisor who would then use LLM to have it summarised, and they kept telling me how great this technology is...

                        ...and seemingly didn't understand that nothing in this entire process could possibly add value.

                        Justin PotJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Justin Pot
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                        @eseilt increasing our ability to do things we don't need to do

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