Uh, uh, Bsky is sooo "decentralized"

Bluesky

(status.bsky.app)

Don't make me laugh

If it's truly self-hosted, you could run a working instance on an offline sub net without use of the internet

Uh, uh, Bsky is sooo "decentralized"

Bluesky

(status.bsky.app)

Don't make me laugh

If it's truly self-hosted, you could run a working instance on an offline sub net without use of the internet

@stux This doesn't look like decentralization; it seems more like a distributed server network. I assume Facebook runs in a similar manner.

@mbrailer Correct

You can save your data on your server but you need the Bsky network to ever do something with it

@stux This reminds me of GeoCities, in which people made pages that they "owned" but in reality were subject to the server for delivery.

Uh, uh, Bsky is sooo "decentralized"

Bluesky

(status.bsky.app)

Don't make me laugh

If it's truly self-hosted, you could run a working instance on an offline sub net without use of the internet

@stux Bluesky is a corporate entity. Nothing decentralized about it.

@Beachbum @stux

So why and how does BS circumvent so successfully that they are federated, decentralized and open source?

Why don't I find clear explanations on what BS is and what BS isn't? It would help me spreading the Fediverse.

@voorstad @Beachbum Well, in short.. Bsky uses the AT proto (https://docs.bsky.app/docs/advanced-guides/atproto) and technically you can setup a "server" where you can host your own Sbky profile data, so the "data" is owned by yourself

But for much of the network to even function, like exachanging info (followers,following,posts,etc) it needs to go via their servers

Mastodon for example uses ActivityPub to communicate directly to another instance without the need of a service from Mastodon corp so to say

@voorstad @Beachbum I've been trying to get something of a standalone Bsky running but it's almost impossible

And to my knowledge, if you setup such a network, it is in-compatible with the Bsky network so techniacally you create a whole seperate network that cannot talk to Bsky