The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video.
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan Writing good guides is so much harder. Modern life gravitates towards the easy path.
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I blame Discord on the downfall of the modern web. You used to be able to find answers to your problems easily on moderated forums, where people used to follow the rules of netiquette. Nowadays you need to join private server and scroll through endless spam.
IDK who had the idea of moving the support/community into de facto chatroom that is Discord, but there is a special place in hell for them.
@miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan
Yes.
#Discord is where information goes to die. -
The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan I always hated video tutorials. Esp. because the format is inherently hard to adjust for updates.
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan
I can intellectually appreciate that some people find videos easiest to learn from. But I find them so inefficient to be essentially useless. And, of course, poor references because you can't just quickly go back and re-read a section.Only once, years ago, I found instructions on a particular crochet technique that only came in a video that was useful because the creator had content links marked so you could jump to a section. Kudos to them for taking the time to add that feature!
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I blame Discord on the downfall of the modern web. You used to be able to find answers to your problems easily on moderated forums, where people used to follow the rules of netiquette. Nowadays you need to join private server and scroll through endless spam.
IDK who had the idea of moving the support/community into de facto chatroom that is Discord, but there is a special place in hell for them.
@miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan I blame stackoverflow.
That guy set out with the stated goal of killing all forums and usenet and having all questions and such in one central database used by everyone.
It fucking worked. Those things all died and search results largely point at that place. AI is starting to swamp it out, but there you go...
I was actually slow to shift from usenet/forum to stackoverflow. Eventually I did until I just stopped participating in the "community".
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan yes! We had a discussion about this at my customer, and a user survey. The result has been 50/50 between video and written. We did a blended learning concept and we decided to choose the best for the users .
I agree , I like written as well more
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan omg this. Every click to a link is painful.
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
FWIW, many educators also find this terrible from an instructor’s point of view. Of course, some enjoy it. But for many it shifts the focus from teaching, learning, and subject matter to performing on screen, which is not what we got into the field for in the first place.
Do not underestimate the extent the ongoing “pivot to video” reflects what can be monetized rather than actual preference or effectiveness.
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan Now there is a AI button on youtube videos which you can use for summarizing the video or asking other questions.
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan when I tell people that the video is basically garbage because I’m never gonna watch it, just peel off the transcript, they look at me in utter shock but man I cannot glean information from some rando droning on and on about everything except the thing, then two sentences on the thing, and now we’ve moved onto tangential shores.
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan As if they are meant to be training some GenAI tool or something.
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I blame Discord on the downfall of the modern web. You used to be able to find answers to your problems easily on moderated forums, where people used to follow the rules of netiquette. Nowadays you need to join private server and scroll through endless spam.
IDK who had the idea of moving the support/community into de facto chatroom that is Discord, but there is a special place in hell for them.
@miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan
We're going to find out in twenty years that the endless torrent of spam that drove people away from public forums to Discord and Facebook was funded/aided by Facebook and Discord.
It's fucking Jia Tan, all the way down. I know it in my bones.
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan the inability to process written language was the first slice at the throat, imo.
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FWIW, many educators also find this terrible from an instructor’s point of view. Of course, some enjoy it. But for many it shifts the focus from teaching, learning, and subject matter to performing on screen, which is not what we got into the field for in the first place.
Do not underestimate the extent the ongoing “pivot to video” reflects what can be monetized rather than actual preference or effectiveness.
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan not to toot my own horn too much, but this has been annoying me for YEARS, and after pushing for way too long there's now interactive learning built into #Grafana.. as in, If you go to https://play.grafana.org/alerting , click the question mark in the upper right, and then select the interactive guide, it teaches you within the UI
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@Daojoan what might help is to try different search engines that focus on blogs and lower the ranking based on ads and tracking.
Search My Site - Open source search engine and search as a service for personal and independent websites
searchmysite.net - the open source search engine and search as a service for user-submitted personal and independent websites
(searchmysite.net)
Kagi Search - A Premium Search Engine
Better search results with no ads. Welcome to Kagi (pronounced kah-gee), a paid search engine that gives power back to the user.
(kagi.com)
Mojeek
Mojeek is a web search engine that provides unbiased, fast, and relevant search results combined with a no tracking privacy policy.
(www.mojeek.com)
The big two trackers (google & bing) actively give big tech and ads supported websites higher ratings, leaving independent blogs in the dust, at page 8.
@lil5@social.linux.pizza @Daojoan@mastodon.social Thanks for these links.
In my experience, mojeek can sometimes be good at showing personal sites but it can also show a lot of SEO spam that appears AI generated and there's a lot missing from its index. It's like rolling the dice whether it will have any useful results to a query and I ended up quitting it because it was so unreliable.
Kagi often has low quality results but what you're paying for is the the filtering tools which can help dial things in. -
I blame Discord on the downfall of the modern web. You used to be able to find answers to your problems easily on moderated forums, where people used to follow the rules of netiquette. Nowadays you need to join private server and scroll through endless spam.
IDK who had the idea of moving the support/community into de facto chatroom that is Discord, but there is a special place in hell for them.
@miszeleq@mastodon.com.pl @Daojoan@mastodon.social @earthshine@masto.hackers.town Canva had the idea of archiving the Affinity suite forums and moving the community into Discord.
Which is why I'm sticking with v2 and not trusting v3. -
The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan
"Oh, I remember this video talked about that. Let me just ctrl-F the keyword to find the right part of the video..." -
The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan And to make matters worse, there is fuck ton of stupid Ai generated generic slop videos that don't actually fix anything, it's just a generic video to fix some very broad issue and you can find like 15 same videos from different "creators".
