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US judge dismisses murder, weapons charges against alleged CEO killer Luigi Mangione

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  • AlexTECPlayzA AlexTECPlayz

    @lashman WHAT

    "U.S. District Judge Margaret M. Garnett in Manhattan said she dismissed the murder and weapons charges because they were legally incompatible with the two counts of stalking Mangione faces."

    Looking into this, the federal murder charges were dismissed as stalking isn't a "crime of violence" under previous precedents. This eliminates the possibility of the death penalty federally (and NY state has no death penalty).

    He'll face two counts of stalking in federal court, and the murder charge in a separate state case. The harshest outcome would be life without parole.

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    @alextecplayz @lashman

    Ah, thanks, didn't understand quite what that meant. Article seemed to imply that any murder charge was off the table entirely.

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    • Third spruce tree on the leftT Third spruce tree on the left

      @alextecplayz @lashman

      Ah, thanks, didn't understand quite what that meant. Article seemed to imply that any murder charge was off the table entirely.

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      @tezoatlipoca @lashman I thought so too, but thankfully that doesn't seem to be the case.

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      • lashmanL lashman

        US judge dismisses murder, weapons charges against alleged CEO killer Luigi Mangione

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        @lashman Is stalking all that is left? That blurb does not say what remains.

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        • lashmanL lashman

          US judge dismisses murder, weapons charges against alleged CEO killer Luigi Mangione

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          @lashman Something about the Supreme Court rulings? Did they do something ridiculous in the recent past to prompt this? Confusing.

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            US judge dismisses murder, weapons charges against alleged CEO killer Luigi Mangione

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            @lashman this guy haha hope he walks, I know murder is bad but he just feels like a robinhood to me - no love for giant corporations who deny people treatments to save their lives

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            • David Fleetwood - RG AdminR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @spacehobo @lashman So basically the federal case is almost eliminated but he still faces state charges. Thanks that makes sense. Not shocked the state is handling this more competently, but my feeling is a jury won't convict for more than the most minor charges there.

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              • lashmanL lashman

                US judge dismisses murder, weapons charges against alleged CEO killer Luigi Mangione

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                @lashman We need a hip-hop artist called "CEO Killer".

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                • lashmanL lashman

                  US judge dismisses murder, weapons charges against alleged CEO killer Luigi Mangione

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                  @lashman That was unexpected. But as the judge pointed out, there are so many self-contradictory laws and precedents that this kind of thing happens.

                  Good to hear the death penalty is now off the table

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                  • Sharon of the Strange TimesI Sharon of the Strange Times

                    @lashman Something about the Supreme Court rulings? Did they do something ridiculous in the recent past to prompt this? Confusing.

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                    @idoubtit @lashman it mentions “crossing state lines” with a gun… maybe something related to Rittenhouse?

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                    • JeffN Jeff

                      @lashman this guy haha hope he walks, I know murder is bad but he just feels like a robinhood to me - no love for giant corporations who deny people treatments to save their lives

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                      @No5JW @lashman
                      I'm with you

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                      • lashmanL lashman

                        US judge dismisses murder, weapons charges against alleged CEO killer Luigi Mangione

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                        @lashman

                        it's a start #FreeLuigi

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                        • lashmanL lashman

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                          @lashman Luigi did nothing wrong, until he lowered his mask while being recorded.

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                          • David Fleetwood - RG AdminR David Fleetwood - RG Admin

                            @spacehobo @lashman So basically the federal case is almost eliminated but he still faces state charges. Thanks that makes sense. Not shocked the state is handling this more competently, but my feeling is a jury won't convict for more than the most minor charges there.

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                            @reflex @spacehobo @lashman also NY doesn't have the death penalty, right? Versus the federal court.

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                            • Ricardo HarvinR Ricardo Harvin

                              @lashman Luigi did nothing wrong, until he lowered his mask while being recorded.

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                              @ricardoharvin @lashman come on now, he got caught with the gun. He did plenty of stuff wrong, like getting caught to start with.

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                              • JeffN Jeff

                                @lashman this guy haha hope he walks, I know murder is bad but he just feels like a robinhood to me - no love for giant corporations who deny people treatments to save their lives

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                                @No5JW
                                #PostOfTheWeek (season 3):
                                Luigi Mangione will not face the death penalty after a U.S. judge on Friday dismissed murder and weapons charges against the accused killer of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, in a major blow to federal prosecutors.

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                                  #PostOfTheWeek (season 3):
                                  Luigi Mangione will not face the death penalty after a U.S. judge on Friday dismissed murder and weapons charges against the accused killer of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, in a major blow to federal prosecutors.

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                                  @No5JW
                                  U.S. District Judge Margaret Garnett (Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York) in Manhattan said she felt constrained by Supreme Court precedents to dismiss the murder charge, saying it was legally incompatible with the two stalking charges Mangione still faces, while acknowledging that ordinary people might be dumbfounded by the outcome.

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                                  • P Passwordsarehard4

                                    @ricardoharvin @lashman come on now, he got caught with the gun. He did plenty of stuff wrong, like getting caught to start with.

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                                    @passwordsarehard4 @lashman Sure, bot 👌🏿

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