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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video.

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  • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

    Tobias KlausmannK This user is from outside of this forum
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    Tobias Klausmann
    wrote last edited by
    #39

    @Daojoan
    Heartily agreed! While _some_ things benefit from video (like "How do you take apart this thing?", though well made photos do the same), most things really don't need a video and bad voice over.

    FWIW, there is this script:

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    GitHub - obra/Youtube2Webpage: I learn much better from text than from videos

    I learn much better from text than from videos. Contribute to obra/Youtube2Webpage development by creating an account on GitHub.

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    which converts YT videos to a series of screenshots along with the subtitled text. I have not tried it, so I don't know how well it works.

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    • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

      The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

      VsevolodP This user is from outside of this forum
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      Vsevolod
      wrote last edited by
      #40

      @Daojoan
      Just right, I hate videos personally: it is heavy, breaks keyword search and version control.
      What's even worse, I assume we talk about youtube and tiktok/reels videos.

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      • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

        HansH This user is from outside of this forum
        HansH This user is from outside of this forum
        Hans
        wrote last edited by
        #41

        @Daojoan and you listen to the annoying video that ultimately doesn't deliver

        or, if it does, you have try to rewind to relisten to the relevant bit and always rewind too far,

        or you try to take a screenshot of the critical part but are not allowed to.

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        • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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          Federico
          wrote last edited by
          #42

          @Daojoan Really annoying
          But luckily I have found an exception for coding:
          Codecademy

          No video, just text and coding exercises. Directly on their platform. You code following the exercise, it corrects you and you can test yourself directly on their platform

          I have a love/hate relationship with them: I love the fact that it is practical, no 30 minute video course, but the pace is really slow.
          But if you want to tackle a new topic in coding, it's just great

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          • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

            The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

            MartinM This user is from outside of this forum
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            Martin
            wrote last edited by
            #43

            @Daojoan
            But every information is repeated 5 times, to get the 10 minutes video filled up.
            With garbage.

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            • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

              The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

              FenixF This user is from outside of this forum
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              Fenix
              wrote last edited by
              #44

              @Daojoan We should just return to minimal text pages. No beautiful design, just straight to the point information.

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              • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                MichaelT This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #45

                @Daojoan A guy I now work with documents internal procedures by linking to YT vids. I'm about ready to rewrite all our wiki pages

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                • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                  The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                  Kyden FumoflyN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Kyden Fumofly
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                  #46

                  @Daojoan I dont know if is this or that Discord replaced so many forums, that many problem solving answers and learning material is not searchable or will get lost forever.

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                  • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                    Thomas 🔭🕹️T This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Thomas 🔭🕹️
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                    #47

                    @Daojoan No worries, we now have VibeMaster 2000™ to transform video tutorials into badly written and half-wrong written guides!

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                    • Gentleman TechnologistG Gentleman Technologist

                      @Daojoan drives me nuts. I can skim text and pick out the necessary info in seconds, but video takes *forever* even at 3x speed where they sound like rabid chipmunks

                      Janne UplaG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #48

                      @GentlemanTech @Daojoan so much this. I still refuse to listen anyone waffling about when trying to find a simple tech trick, i mute & put cc's on and jump about in a video (if no text-only help available) and when i hit the right keywords start listening.

                      I thought turning video tutorials to text would be the killer app for "ai" but meh. Maybe I should watch a video on how to vibecode a utube2txt .

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                      • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                        #49

                        this. and that (and the love of books in general) drives me to hoard old books like this 800-pager «workout c» sirca 1992. do i need to (re-)learn c? nope. but the thought that i could without having to subject myself to this new internet trend is warming.

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                        • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                          StevenS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          wrote last edited by
                          #50

                          @Daojoan I can't agree more! I in particular do best learning through text and am good at scanning a document quickly to find what I need. I hate watching videos produced by amateurs with annoying speaking habits who spend the whole video drawing imaginary circles with their cursor around the menu item they are talking about!

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                          • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                            The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                            Peter N. M. HansteenP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Peter N. M. Hansteen
                            wrote last edited by
                            #51

                            @Daojoan I only recently started realizing that more often than not, people are surprised to find that for the presentations I give, there usually is a full text written version, and that the references are links to actual text resources.

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                            • ElricE Elric

                              @Daojoan I blame the platforms (Coursera, Udemy, etc). They all enable mediocre quality video peddlers to make a fair amount of money.

                              A course-creation/monetization platform that didn't rely on video would probably be beneficial.

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                              Elle
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                              #52

                              @elricofmelnibone @Daojoan and now you can't even audit the courses without paying, so good luck deciding from the bot comments if the course is actually legit or just an over-stretched, poorly-explained mess encouraging the use of the outdated tools!

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                              • FenixF Fenix

                                @Daojoan We should just return to minimal text pages. No beautiful design, just straight to the point information.

                                ElleH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Elle
                                wrote last edited by
                                #53

                                @fenixmaster @Daojoan you know it's bad when browsing documentation feels refreshing

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                                • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                  The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                                  Ypsilenna GloomvaleY This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Ypsilenna Gloomvale
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                                  #54

                                  @Daojoan I agree. I usually put extra time into searching for text-based alternatives to these videos

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                                  • Steve Fenton ➜S Steve Fenton ➜

                                    @Daojoan

                                    "How to save your Google Doc"

                                    00:00 Why digital files need to be saved
                                    07:24 A history of save icons
                                    23:32 Formats used by different office tools
                                    31:56 Famous errors caused by not saving files
                                    58:45 Saving files in Google Docs

                                    And all to say "they save automatically".

                                    Like and subscribe!

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                                    Tim Chase
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                                    #55

                                    @stevefenton

                                    accurate, except for missing the multiple unskippable advertising breaks 😆

                                    @Daojoan

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                                    • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                      The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                                      Sharp Cheddar GoblinS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Sharp Cheddar Goblin
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #56

                                      @Daojoan For almost everything I want to learn to do, if there is only video and no written guide, I just move on. I'm not wasting 10 minutes on something that should take 2. I'm not giving that fucker any clicks of encouragement.

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                                      • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                                        MatthijsM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Matthijs
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                                        #57

                                        @Daojoan this!! #annoying

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                                        • Tim ChaseG Tim Chase

                                          @stevefenton

                                          accurate, except for missing the multiple unskippable advertising breaks 😆

                                          @Daojoan

                                          Steve Fenton ➜S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Steve Fenton ➜
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #58

                                          @gumnos @Daojoan hahaha!

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