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  • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

    "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

    🀞 🀞 🀞

    If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

    Fuck your #cynicism

    VOTE

    Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🀭

    Joachim Heistinger 🌢️C This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote last edited by
    #3

    @benroyce I live close to the .hu border and I know some Hungarians.
    They are as stupid as Austrians, Muricans or Russians.

    Mark my words when it comes to elections.

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    • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

      "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

      🀞 🀞 🀞

      If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

      Fuck your #cynicism

      VOTE

      Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🀭

      Hans van ZijstH This user is from outside of this forum
      Hans van ZijstH This user is from outside of this forum
      Hans van Zijst
      wrote last edited by
      #4
      @Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡© I'm afraid both Putin and the orange knuckle dragger will help their brownshirt buddy to win the elections...

      Just as I don't think the midterms are going to be real. If they take place at all...
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      • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

        "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

        🀞 🀞 🀞

        If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

        Fuck your #cynicism

        VOTE

        Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🀭

        jz.tuskJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jz.tuskJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #5

        @benroyce

        I don't think calling people "lazy entitled lumps" is going to make them more likely to vote.

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        • Hans van ZijstH Hans van Zijst
          @Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡© I'm afraid both Putin and the orange knuckle dragger will help their brownshirt buddy to win the elections...

          Just as I don't think the midterms are going to be real. If they take place at all...
          Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B This user is from outside of this forum
          Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B This user is from outside of this forum
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          #6

          @hans

          the vote is controlled by the states

          i am not registering my disagreement with you i am registering my disgust with you

          if you say the midterms aren't real, people have no reason to vote, therefore MAGA wins

          is this what you want?

          are you trying to help trump on purpose?

          i don't think so

          but *you are* helping trump with such ignorant cynical and cowardly words

          do not say these lies about the midterms ever again

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          • jz.tuskJ jz.tusk

            @benroyce

            I don't think calling people "lazy entitled lumps" is going to make them more likely to vote.

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            #7

            @jztusk

            i don't think anything we could ever say will get them to vote

            so therefore we will indeed shame them, so anyone else listening who is not a lazy entitled lump does vote

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            • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

              @jztusk

              i don't think anything we could ever say will get them to vote

              so therefore we will indeed shame them, so anyone else listening who is not a lazy entitled lump does vote

              jz.tuskJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #8

              @benroyce

              Well, that's definitely a strategy, and you've thought about what you think will be the most effective, and I've got no evidence that it isn't, so go ahead I guess (not that you need my permission).

              Me, I'm going to go ahead with trying to show people it's in their own best interests to vote. Maybe between the two of us we'll cover all the bases? 🀷

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              • jz.tuskJ jz.tusk

                @benroyce

                Well, that's definitely a strategy, and you've thought about what you think will be the most effective, and I've got no evidence that it isn't, so go ahead I guess (not that you need my permission).

                Me, I'm going to go ahead with trying to show people it's in their own best interests to vote. Maybe between the two of us we'll cover all the bases? 🀷

                Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B This user is from outside of this forum
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                #9

                @jztusk

                so let's say you take one of these typical assholes whining loudly about how they won't vote until {X} happens

                say everyone bends over backwards and makes {X} happen

                they still won't vote. they will invent a new reason not to

                this is their identity. making dramatic displays of their "moral superiority" to justify their indolence, entitlement, and alienation

                of course, morality without action isn't morality at all, it's just ego masturbation

                they're losers. literally: they lose

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                • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

                  "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

                  🀞 🀞 🀞

                  If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

                  Fuck your #cynicism

                  VOTE

                  Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🀭

                  Idaho buckeyeI This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #10

                  @benroyce not sure you can actually vote out facism.

                  Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Juho MΓ€ntysaloI 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • Idaho buckeyeI Idaho buckeye

                    @benroyce not sure you can actually vote out facism.

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                    #11

                    @idahobucks

                    who won the 2020 us presidential election? and who was president at the time?

                    thank you to everyone who showed up and voted then

                    you agree?

                    so get the fuck out of here with your cowardice and premature capitulation

                    vote, you spineless asshole

                    if fascism does destroy us democracy, it will be because of MAGA, and meek submissive fear-addled weak whiners like you

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                    • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

                      @jztusk

                      so let's say you take one of these typical assholes whining loudly about how they won't vote until {X} happens

                      say everyone bends over backwards and makes {X} happen

                      they still won't vote. they will invent a new reason not to

                      this is their identity. making dramatic displays of their "moral superiority" to justify their indolence, entitlement, and alienation

                      of course, morality without action isn't morality at all, it's just ego masturbation

                      they're losers. literally: they lose

                      jz.tuskJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #12

                      @benroyce

                      Yeah, the ones with a ransom list can just drift away for all I care - they will never accomplish anything, and I'm done wasting my time on them.

                      But there are still lots of other people who don't vote for other reasons: they're busy, they haven't got the habit, they don't think they can make a difference, despair, etc. And I do not want us speaking shorthand and saying "fuck non-voters" to push any of those away...

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                      • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

                        @idahobucks

                        who won the 2020 us presidential election? and who was president at the time?

                        thank you to everyone who showed up and voted then

                        you agree?

                        so get the fuck out of here with your cowardice and premature capitulation

                        vote, you spineless asshole

                        if fascism does destroy us democracy, it will be because of MAGA, and meek submissive fear-addled weak whiners like you

                        Idaho buckeyeI This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #13

                        @benroyce you are missing the big picture. There is no real push back at all right now. We the people seem to think the Dems will save us which is not the case. We are in the five alarm stage now and people keep talking about voting and laws. The president doesn't worry about laws as he does what he wants like making himself billions of dollars. I have no idea what to do and don't see any real push back. Minnesota pushed back for a while and it's over even though ICE is in the suburbs right now.

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                        • jz.tuskJ jz.tusk

                          @benroyce

                          Yeah, the ones with a ransom list can just drift away for all I care - they will never accomplish anything, and I'm done wasting my time on them.

                          But there are still lots of other people who don't vote for other reasons: they're busy, they haven't got the habit, they don't think they can make a difference, despair, etc. And I do not want us speaking shorthand and saying "fuck non-voters" to push any of those away...

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                          jz.tusk
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                          #14

                          @benroyce

                          ... So me, I'm careful in my language. I'm happy to refer to the first type as "pretty prancing purity ponies", or "the folks who didn't vote against the Nazis", but I want to leaves an opening for the second type, and make it clear that they are welcome to join in.

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                          • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

                            "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

                            🀞 🀞 🀞

                            If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

                            Fuck your #cynicism

                            VOTE

                            Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🀭

                            Juho MΓ€ntysaloI This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #15

                            @benroyce

                            Spent few days at Hungary in Nov 2924 (was swapping trains), and visited a state-sponsored exhibition adjacent to the city museum.

                            The city museum spent a lot of time talking about how the city population got massacred when the city was captured from Ottomans in the late 17th century.

                            Then you moved to the state-sponsored exhibition which outright mentioned that the massacre was good, actually, as it allowed large-scale infrastructure improvements.

                            Felt dirty just for being there.

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                            • Idaho buckeyeI Idaho buckeye

                              @benroyce not sure you can actually vote out facism.

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                              @idahobucks @benroyce

                              Sure you can. You just need enough of the population to being committed for the change.

                              The state apparatus is a complex house of cards, and if people don't support it, it collapses.

                              People always forget that there's no true absolutist monarchy. The monarch is always supported by special interests, and they in turn by their special interests. If you lose the support of the army, or the railway workers, etc., then it's all over.

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                              • jz.tuskJ jz.tusk

                                @benroyce

                                Yeah, the ones with a ransom list can just drift away for all I care - they will never accomplish anything, and I'm done wasting my time on them.

                                But there are still lots of other people who don't vote for other reasons: they're busy, they haven't got the habit, they don't think they can make a difference, despair, etc. And I do not want us speaking shorthand and saying "fuck non-voters" to push any of those away...

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                                @jztusk

                                Littterer A is shown a video where someone litters out their car window and someone walks up and soothes their precious feelings and otherwise validates their behavior

                                Litterer B is shown a video where someone litters out their car window and someone walks up and smashes their side mirror while other people cheer

                                Which will make the litterer think?

                                Your problem is your false assumption people who don't vote have a valid reason. They don't. They're just entitled lazy assholes

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                                • Idaho buckeyeI Idaho buckeye

                                  @benroyce you are missing the big picture. There is no real push back at all right now. We the people seem to think the Dems will save us which is not the case. We are in the five alarm stage now and people keep talking about voting and laws. The president doesn't worry about laws as he does what he wants like making himself billions of dollars. I have no idea what to do and don't see any real push back. Minnesota pushed back for a while and it's over even though ICE is in the suburbs right now.

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #18

                                  @idahobucks

                                  Do you vote?

                                  If so good

                                  That's what we need. Then we gradually iterate to better

                                  Buy if you don't vote, go fuck yourself. You're the reason as much as MAGA why we are sliding to fascism

                                  All these fucking lazy rationalizations do is serve various weaknesses and character failures that, in aggregate with other whiny losers, leads to fascism

                                  That's it

                                  VOTE

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                                  • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

                                    @jztusk

                                    Littterer A is shown a video where someone litters out their car window and someone walks up and soothes their precious feelings and otherwise validates their behavior

                                    Litterer B is shown a video where someone litters out their car window and someone walks up and smashes their side mirror while other people cheer

                                    Which will make the litterer think?

                                    Your problem is your false assumption people who don't vote have a valid reason. They don't. They're just entitled lazy assholes

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                                    #19

                                    @benroyce

                                    We disagree.

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                                    • jz.tuskJ jz.tusk

                                      @benroyce

                                      We disagree.

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                                      @jztusk of course we do

                                      So you go out there and validate and soothe the precious feelings of lazy entitled assholes and let me know how it goes. Good luck

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                                      • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

                                        @idahobucks

                                        Do you vote?

                                        If so good

                                        That's what we need. Then we gradually iterate to better

                                        Buy if you don't vote, go fuck yourself. You're the reason as much as MAGA why we are sliding to fascism

                                        All these fucking lazy rationalizations do is serve various weaknesses and character failures that, in aggregate with other whiny losers, leads to fascism

                                        That's it

                                        VOTE

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                                        @benroyce @idahobucks Pauline Hanson would like an explanation please.

                                        The existence/election of Fraser Anning might be a salutary example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraser_Anning

                                        Australia has compulsory voting and a wider "universal" franchise than the US but still manages to elect and give power to utter bastards.

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                                        • MozM Moz

                                          @benroyce @idahobucks Pauline Hanson would like an explanation please.

                                          The existence/election of Fraser Anning might be a salutary example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraser_Anning

                                          Australia has compulsory voting and a wider "universal" franchise than the US but still manages to elect and give power to utter bastards.

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                                          @moz @idahobucks

                                          I don't understand what the point is

                                          We should all vote, right?

                                          PS: is this the guy who got an egg to the face from a teenager?

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