BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!
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@foobarsoft For posts about performances I usually add 'opera' and 'operaSinger' so people can filter me if they want the browser but not art. Then the work we’re performing, the composer, the city and if I have enough room the region. If I just blurt out a random though, I don’t tag them.
@foobarsoft @meganmariehart that is very sensible.
I have others whom I follow who, frankly, do hashtag abuse. And inline is bad for screenreaders (and even sighted people).
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@Sevapopov @mirabilos @ketmorco @meganmariehart If you post something with the hashtag #science it is always boosted by the science bot. same with #news and a few others. If you search for a hashtag, you will find a whole lot of posts and people. If you follow one, posts featuring it will land in your feed. I gues what they are saying is that it won't be absolutely everything, but it is still a good tool.
@Sevapopov @ketmorco @farbel @meganmariehart only if the bot (or someone on its instance) follows you, otherwise it cannot even know of the existence of the post. (See other reply, I need to zzz again, too much allergy for longer discussion)
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@mirabilos @ketmorco @farbel @meganmariehart Does it mean that if I post something without a hashtag, let's say in English it won't have a huge difference than if I post it with the hashtag? Or if I post with hashtag people who follow it will find it so there will be more engagement with the post? If hashtags are only like filters here, it means that this is the same like in Telegram where they are used to categorize posts in a channel and it doesn't make huge sense in using them then.
@ketmorco @farbel @meganmariehart @Sevapopov see my other reply, sry too much allergy, need to sleep
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@meganmariehart @sonjaschuh01 that tool cannot give a complete answer because it cannot see everyone’s follower lists (they can be set to be not shown to others)
@mirabilos It also dosen’t seem to take hashtags into account. Just tried it with my last post, and it basically gave me the sum of my followers plus the followers of the two accounts that boosted the post, and I dont think it checks if the boosting accounts and I share followers. Might still be useful, I’ll keep it bookmarked!
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@mirabilos CAT!!
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@futurebird @meganmariehart agreed. To me, a post that elicits even one relevant reply is more "successful" than a post with a zillion likes and no replies. This medium is built for conversations, not just broadcasts. I sometimes start following someone with posts on a topic of interest, but then unfollow them again because they're 100% broadcast. Missing the point of an interactive medium...
@hyc @futurebird I love finding out how people use Mastodon differently! Personally, I follow some broadcast accounts, but only if they post a reasonable low amount (like @opernmagazin ). I don’t follow broadcast accounts with lots of posts, and visit them when I feel like it (like @fesshole ). Then there are accounts that post once a day that I don’t want to miss (like @hashtaggames ) For those, I use the notification bell.
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@meganmariehart @warzazel the problem is that they will still need to drop that reliance on numbers very fast after joining, and learn to interact (both on own and others’ posts) quick. Not sure if that causes more disappointment then.
If it’s not the bosses who do the Fediversing though it can help. Bosses see numbers and give okay, and people actually trained to DTRT do the actual communication.
@mirabilos Right! Luckily, the bosses I’m talking about are culture people, we don’t do numbers much!
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@meganmariehart @wulfric no, hashtags are also screaming into the void but with categorisation (see one of my other replies)
@mirabilos “Thank you for calling VOID. We will see you shortly. If you intendet to get heard, please reach out to ABYSS.“
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@Sevapopov @ketmorco @farbel @meganmariehart only if the bot (or someone on its instance) follows you, otherwise it cannot even know of the existence of the post. (See other reply, I need to zzz again, too much allergy for longer discussion)
@mirabilos @Sevapopov @ketmorco @meganmariehart This sounds like an argument for being in a larger instance so you are more widely connected.
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@foobarsoft @meganmariehart that is very sensible.
I have others whom I follow who, frankly, do hashtag abuse. And inline is bad for screenreaders (and even sighted people).
@mirabilos I try to avoid inline tags, I use them sometime when I run out of space, usually when I post about a show with a big cast.
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@Sevapopov @ketmorco @farbel @meganmariehart only if the bot (or someone on its instance) follows you, otherwise it cannot even know of the existence of the post. (See other reply, I need to zzz again, too much allergy for longer discussion)
@mirabilos @Sevapopov @ketmorco @meganmariehart I notice that neither bot picked up my hashtags in the response. Is that becdause it was a response and not a post, or because everything is tied to the OP?
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@ketmorco @farbel @meganmariehart @Sevapopov hashtags do not broadcast anything though, they serve as a selection filter of your instance’s global feed.
Meaning, someone on your instance has to follow the poster or someone who boosted the post, otherwise your instance will not know it and has no (literally no) way to find it in a search.
Instances tend to also load thread context, and public posts when you click on a profile. So, by joining in on discussions under posts (both your own and others’) you begin to build the reach that is necessary for the hashtags to even begin to work. (They also don’t always work for unlisted posts.)
So, hashtags are much less important on the Fediverse than elsewhere, due to the lack of a central registry.
@mirabilos @ketmorco @farbel @meganmariehart @Sevapopov I guess this is why choice of instance matters. Problem is: intersectional interests. I'm on a Canadian instance. It's great for news - terrible for my profession, which is more global than local. But hunting for the right server for people with my professional interest feels daunting.
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@GeePawHill super convenient for negative filtering though. Some super nice folks out here also post stuff I shouldn't look at. If it's tagged, my filter protects our friendship, and that's worth it to me.
@iwein @GeePawHill @meganmariehart @metalbrawler I kind of wish for hashtags that aren't searchable, but usable for this purpose (I guess plain words would do, but that feels a little less directed). I do not *want* my posts to be findable by some hashtag, but this is a good use of them.
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@iwein @GeePawHill @meganmariehart @metalbrawler I kind of wish for hashtags that aren't searchable, but usable for this purpose (I guess plain words would do, but that feels a little less directed). I do not *want* my posts to be findable by some hashtag, but this is a good use of them.
@h5e interesting use case yeah.
Maybe this works with content warning already, and we could theoretically simply use another tag symbol (if it's not recognized as a hashtag, it meets your desires)
For example &fediFunctions is very filterable to avoid post like this and it's not recognized as a hashtag. We do need to change habits for it, and that's hard.
And it can easily annoy or inconvenience people as well. Not sure what a screen reader does here, but I'm pretty sure it's not great.
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@h5e interesting use case yeah.
Maybe this works with content warning already, and we could theoretically simply use another tag symbol (if it's not recognized as a hashtag, it meets your desires)
For example &fediFunctions is very filterable to avoid post like this and it's not recognized as a hashtag. We do need to change habits for it, and that's hard.
And it can easily annoy or inconvenience people as well. Not sure what a screen reader does here, but I'm pretty sure it's not great.
@iwein yeah tbf I use cws extensively so it’s kind of a moot point
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@h5e not 100% sure... I feel you're onto something. But I'm not going to figure it out I think. All good here
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@mirabilos @Sevapopov @ketmorco @meganmariehart This sounds like an argument for being in a larger instance so you are more widely connected.
@meganmariehart @ketmorco @farbel @Sevapopov only if you rely on only hashtags.
I’m on a solo instance (plus a few bots I run who do not follow anyone), and it works just fine. Took a few months initially to set up my feed, then I begun unfollowing, setting people to not display boosts, etc. to cultivate it, while adding new persons who look interesting all the time.
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@mirabilos I try to avoid inline tags, I use them sometime when I run out of space, usually when I post about a show with a big cast.
@meganmariehart probably ok in that case, as those wouldn’t have them in the middle of sentences but in a list? Or at least rare.
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@meganmariehart @ketmorco @farbel @Sevapopov only if you rely on only hashtags.
I’m on a solo instance (plus a few bots I run who do not follow anyone), and it works just fine. Took a few months initially to set up my feed, then I begun unfollowing, setting people to not display boosts, etc. to cultivate it, while adding new persons who look interesting all the time.
@mirabilos @meganmariehart @ketmorco @Sevapopov I don't rely on them, but I think they make my experience richer. To each their own.
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@mirabilos @Sevapopov @ketmorco @meganmariehart I notice that neither bot picked up my hashtags in the response. Is that becdause it was a response and not a post, or because everything is tied to the OP?
@farbel @Sevapopov @ketmorco @meganmariehart your post was set to unlisted, not public (as is proper for a reply), some bots only do public posts, and search by hashtag will only pick up public posts (as opposed to these bots who follow you). Some bots also explicitly exclude replies.
