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Reflect Orbital wants to destroy the night sky to deliver "sunlight as a service".

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  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

    Reflect Orbital wants to destroy the night sky to deliver "sunlight as a service". SpaceX wants to destroy Low Earth Orbit to launch one million "AI datacentres"

    The only way to formally protest these two ideas is to file a comment with the US FCC, which is horribly complicated, but the American Astronomical Society has detailed instructions posted here: https://aas.org/posts/advocacy/2026/02/how-submit-comments-satellite-applications-fcc

    Comments due March 6 for SpaceX and March 9 for Reflect Orbital. Write! Write! Write!

    Christo. London, EnglandC This user is from outside of this forum
    Christo. London, EnglandC This user is from outside of this forum
    Christo. London, England
    wrote last edited by
    #22

    @sundogplanets
    I wish we could just throw the people pushing these things , in jail

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    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

      Reflect Orbital wants to destroy the night sky to deliver "sunlight as a service". SpaceX wants to destroy Low Earth Orbit to launch one million "AI datacentres"

      The only way to formally protest these two ideas is to file a comment with the US FCC, which is horribly complicated, but the American Astronomical Society has detailed instructions posted here: https://aas.org/posts/advocacy/2026/02/how-submit-comments-satellite-applications-fcc

      Comments due March 6 for SpaceX and March 9 for Reflect Orbital. Write! Write! Write!

      Brian JohnsonB This user is from outside of this forum
      Brian JohnsonB This user is from outside of this forum
      Brian Johnson
      wrote last edited by
      #23

      @sundogplanets Ok, so launching one satellite every 10 minutes nonstop would take almost 20 years to launch a million satellites, and that is assuming that someone can build them and deliver them to launch pads at that rate.

      Completely unrealistic. Is this really about launching that much or is it about generating hype before trying to sell something or raise money?

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      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

        Reflect Orbital wants to destroy the night sky to deliver "sunlight as a service". SpaceX wants to destroy Low Earth Orbit to launch one million "AI datacentres"

        The only way to formally protest these two ideas is to file a comment with the US FCC, which is horribly complicated, but the American Astronomical Society has detailed instructions posted here: https://aas.org/posts/advocacy/2026/02/how-submit-comments-satellite-applications-fcc

        Comments due March 6 for SpaceX and March 9 for Reflect Orbital. Write! Write! Write!

        Angela ScholderA This user is from outside of this forum
        Angela ScholderA This user is from outside of this forum
        Angela Scholder
        wrote last edited by
        #24

        @sundogplanets Nice! "Incompatible browser extensions or Network configuration".

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        • legocasL legocas

          @sundogplanets this is quite outrageous. How is it possible that everything in there public domain / commons seems to be up for grabs instead being protected for its cultural and natural value. Can’t believe this stuff.

          L'égrégore André ꕭꕬM This user is from outside of this forum
          L'égrégore André ꕭꕬM This user is from outside of this forum
          L'égrégore André ꕭꕬ
          wrote last edited by
          #25

          @legocas @sundogplanets There's a small number of people who, if someone says "this belongs to all of us," will refuse to understand it and just goes "okay, it's mine, so I can do whatever I want with it".
          Unfortunately they have an outsized influence in our society.

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          • Tony MeredithT Tony Meredith

            @sundogplanets Plus. It's open for comments worldwide. Right?

            L'égrégore André ꕭꕬM This user is from outside of this forum
            L'égrégore André ꕭꕬM This user is from outside of this forum
            L'égrégore André ꕭꕬ
            wrote last edited by
            #26

            @Tony_Meredith Yes: "This process is also open to those outside the United States who may be impacted by a proposed system."

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            • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

              Reflect Orbital wants to destroy the night sky to deliver "sunlight as a service". SpaceX wants to destroy Low Earth Orbit to launch one million "AI datacentres"

              The only way to formally protest these two ideas is to file a comment with the US FCC, which is horribly complicated, but the American Astronomical Society has detailed instructions posted here: https://aas.org/posts/advocacy/2026/02/how-submit-comments-satellite-applications-fcc

              Comments due March 6 for SpaceX and March 9 for Reflect Orbital. Write! Write! Write!

              Sina G.S This user is from outside of this forum
              Sina G.S This user is from outside of this forum
              Sina G.
              wrote last edited by
              #27

              @sundogplanets is this a real concern?

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              • Mr.Mark "The Sharpie King"M Mr.Mark "The Sharpie King"

                @Olson @sundogplanets @river
                The idea is that we all will, and we won’t have a choice.

                JulesceltJ This user is from outside of this forum
                JulesceltJ This user is from outside of this forum
                Julescelt
                wrote last edited by
                #28

                @markmetz @Olson @sundogplanets @river This! Refelct Orbital did not ask the 8+ billion people living on this rock if we wanted "sunlight as a service". Just typing that makes me want to lol.

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                • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                  Reflect Orbital wants to destroy the night sky to deliver "sunlight as a service". SpaceX wants to destroy Low Earth Orbit to launch one million "AI datacentres"

                  The only way to formally protest these two ideas is to file a comment with the US FCC, which is horribly complicated, but the American Astronomical Society has detailed instructions posted here: https://aas.org/posts/advocacy/2026/02/how-submit-comments-satellite-applications-fcc

                  Comments due March 6 for SpaceX and March 9 for Reflect Orbital. Write! Write! Write!

                  Craig DuncanC This user is from outside of this forum
                  Craig DuncanC This user is from outside of this forum
                  Craig Duncan
                  wrote last edited by
                  #29

                  @sundogplanets

                  Current AI: aggressively inconvenient

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                  • Brian JohnsonB Brian Johnson

                    @sundogplanets Ok, so launching one satellite every 10 minutes nonstop would take almost 20 years to launch a million satellites, and that is assuming that someone can build them and deliver them to launch pads at that rate.

                    Completely unrealistic. Is this really about launching that much or is it about generating hype before trying to sell something or raise money?

                    JulesceltJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    JulesceltJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    Julescelt
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                    #30

                    @BrianJohnson @sundogplanets Feels so much like the latter...

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                    • MimiWhiskersM MimiWhiskers

                      @sundogplanets It makes zero sense to launch datacenters in space. I ain't gonna go through the technical reasons why, but you can read here where someone that actually worked at NASA and google explaining why its a bad idea... https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/

                      But if I could take a moment to poke my conspiracy brain, I think this is more for building an advanced surveillance network against the whole world. You can possibly monitor almost everything on Earth with a network like that.

                      Michael KohneM This user is from outside of this forum
                      Michael KohneM This user is from outside of this forum
                      Michael Kohne
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                      #31

                      @MimiWhiskers @sundogplanets I believe that it's just a stupid idea, intended to inflate the stock price for the intended upcoming IPO of SpaceX. There is no serious intent to actually launch much of anything.

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                      • L'égrégore André ꕭꕬM L'égrégore André ꕭꕬ

                        @Tony_Meredith Yes: "This process is also open to those outside the United States who may be impacted by a proposed system."

                        Phil Ashby :marmite: 🍵P This user is from outside of this forum
                        Phil Ashby :marmite: 🍵P This user is from outside of this forum
                        Phil Ashby :marmite: 🍵
                        wrote last edited by
                        #32

                        @Mabande @Tony_Meredith

                        Indeed it is - done!

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                        • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                          Reflect Orbital wants to destroy the night sky to deliver "sunlight as a service". SpaceX wants to destroy Low Earth Orbit to launch one million "AI datacentres"

                          The only way to formally protest these two ideas is to file a comment with the US FCC, which is horribly complicated, but the American Astronomical Society has detailed instructions posted here: https://aas.org/posts/advocacy/2026/02/how-submit-comments-satellite-applications-fcc

                          Comments due March 6 for SpaceX and March 9 for Reflect Orbital. Write! Write! Write!

                          ░ON░THE█AIR░R This user is from outside of this forum
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                          ░ON░THE█AIR░
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                          @sundogplanets I would say, probably nothing we write is going to matter. Both these companies know who to send kick backs to in order to ensure that this will happen... The main thing we have on our side is that if they put 1 million data centers in low earth orbit, it is going to make it impossible to launch anything into space without collisions becoming extremely frequent. Everything Elon does is riddled with bugs, because he is just sloppy and hires sloppy and shitty engineers that are like him, mostly because he is a narcissist, but I digress... These things will break and crash into each other and come crashing down on people's homes and if we are lucky they will land directly on Elon's head. Since once they are in free fall it's basically anybody's guess where they might end up landing. The things these idiots do have consequences... Mostly for other people because that's how statistics works, but if they do enough dumb shit, eventually it becomes much more likely to effect themselves.

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                          • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                            Reflect Orbital wants to destroy the night sky to deliver "sunlight as a service". SpaceX wants to destroy Low Earth Orbit to launch one million "AI datacentres"

                            The only way to formally protest these two ideas is to file a comment with the US FCC, which is horribly complicated, but the American Astronomical Society has detailed instructions posted here: https://aas.org/posts/advocacy/2026/02/how-submit-comments-satellite-applications-fcc

                            Comments due March 6 for SpaceX and March 9 for Reflect Orbital. Write! Write! Write!

                            Sophie HassfurtherS This user is from outside of this forum
                            Sophie HassfurtherS This user is from outside of this forum
                            Sophie Hassfurther
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                            @Prof. Sam Lawler comments for US citizens only or worldwide?
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                            • Brian JohnsonB Brian Johnson

                              @sundogplanets Ok, so launching one satellite every 10 minutes nonstop would take almost 20 years to launch a million satellites, and that is assuming that someone can build them and deliver them to launch pads at that rate.

                              Completely unrealistic. Is this really about launching that much or is it about generating hype before trying to sell something or raise money?

                              Emil "AngryAnt" JohansenA This user is from outside of this forum
                              Emil "AngryAnt" JohansenA This user is from outside of this forum
                              Emil "AngryAnt" Johansen
                              wrote last edited by
                              #35

                              @BrianJohnson @sundogplanets Odds definitely say that a million AI datacenters in orbit is just more fragile ego twitter trolling for shareholders.

                              However playing with the numbers conservatively, using the 2025 SpaceX launch numbers (down from initial targets) and assuming starlink sattellites get retooled (or just rebranded) as "AI datacenters" for twitter/shareholder creds, SpaceX would need 125 years to launch 1mill units. 62.5 years if using Starship.

                              Plenty damage early on "for the lols"

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                              • O Olson

                                @markmetz @sundogplanets @river

                                What?!? Who is gonna see them?

                                I’m glad I’m old.

                                pelhaP This user is from outside of this forum
                                pelhaP This user is from outside of this forum
                                pelha
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                                @Olson @markmetz @sundogplanets @river this is all making reincarnation look like a bad idea 😣

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                                • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                  Reflect Orbital wants to destroy the night sky to deliver "sunlight as a service". SpaceX wants to destroy Low Earth Orbit to launch one million "AI datacentres"

                                  The only way to formally protest these two ideas is to file a comment with the US FCC, which is horribly complicated, but the American Astronomical Society has detailed instructions posted here: https://aas.org/posts/advocacy/2026/02/how-submit-comments-satellite-applications-fcc

                                  Comments due March 6 for SpaceX and March 9 for Reflect Orbital. Write! Write! Write!

                                  s0 Unbreaks StuffS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  s0 Unbreaks StuffS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  s0 Unbreaks Stuff
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #37

                                  @sundogplanets telling my 1920s time travel companion that in 2026 the capitalists aren’t trying to privatise the night sky — they’re trying to destroy it, for imaginary gains to their bad mechanical Turk.

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                                  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                    Reflect Orbital wants to destroy the night sky to deliver "sunlight as a service". SpaceX wants to destroy Low Earth Orbit to launch one million "AI datacentres"

                                    The only way to formally protest these two ideas is to file a comment with the US FCC, which is horribly complicated, but the American Astronomical Society has detailed instructions posted here: https://aas.org/posts/advocacy/2026/02/how-submit-comments-satellite-applications-fcc

                                    Comments due March 6 for SpaceX and March 9 for Reflect Orbital. Write! Write! Write!

                                    Gia BENNETHB This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Gia BENNETHB This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Gia BENNETH
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                                    #38

                                    @sundogplanets Hello 👋, Nice meeting you all Am New Here

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                                    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                      Reflect Orbital wants to destroy the night sky to deliver "sunlight as a service". SpaceX wants to destroy Low Earth Orbit to launch one million "AI datacentres"

                                      The only way to formally protest these two ideas is to file a comment with the US FCC, which is horribly complicated, but the American Astronomical Society has detailed instructions posted here: https://aas.org/posts/advocacy/2026/02/how-submit-comments-satellite-applications-fcc

                                      Comments due March 6 for SpaceX and March 9 for Reflect Orbital. Write! Write! Write!

                                      C This user is from outside of this forum
                                      C This user is from outside of this forum
                                      crouton
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                                      @sundogplanets i can't shake the image of a pacman in orbit nomming on satellites

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                                      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                        Reflect Orbital wants to destroy the night sky to deliver "sunlight as a service". SpaceX wants to destroy Low Earth Orbit to launch one million "AI datacentres"

                                        The only way to formally protest these two ideas is to file a comment with the US FCC, which is horribly complicated, but the American Astronomical Society has detailed instructions posted here: https://aas.org/posts/advocacy/2026/02/how-submit-comments-satellite-applications-fcc

                                        Comments due March 6 for SpaceX and March 9 for Reflect Orbital. Write! Write! Write!

                                        LunaphiedL This user is from outside of this forum
                                        LunaphiedL This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Lunaphied
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                                        @sundogplanets the fact that any country is just allowed to do this is so fucked

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                                        • MimiWhiskersM MimiWhiskers

                                          @sundogplanets It makes zero sense to launch datacenters in space. I ain't gonna go through the technical reasons why, but you can read here where someone that actually worked at NASA and google explaining why its a bad idea... https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/

                                          But if I could take a moment to poke my conspiracy brain, I think this is more for building an advanced surveillance network against the whole world. You can possibly monitor almost everything on Earth with a network like that.

                                          fraggleF This user is from outside of this forum
                                          fraggleF This user is from outside of this forum
                                          fraggle
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                                          @MimiWhiskers @sundogplanets thank you, glad to see that someone who's an expert has written a thorough debunk. It was obvious to me that it was a terrible idea just because of the cooling but it's great to see all the other reasons laid out clearly too

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