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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

    Notes for Americans:

    1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

    2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

    3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

    Albert HickeyW This user is from outside of this forum
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    @cstross

    Copilot just now with prompt.
    show me a picture to explain how to wire a UK plug

    Interested in the Earth being a 4th pin and the Earth pin having a live (coloured) wire going to it.
    Also, a screw labelled as LIVE is concerning.

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    • Dan O'GinnecD Dan O'Ginnec

      @Sie @nygl @cstross

      This is what you get if you use a very old Generative AI:

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      @Sie @nygl @cstross @DanKen

      I do miss how janky the outputs were for those

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

        Stephen J HenstridgeH This user is from outside of this forum
        Stephen J HenstridgeH This user is from outside of this forum
        Stephen J Henstridge
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        #114

        @cstross Look carefully - designed by M.C. Escher

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

          Notes for Americans:

          1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

          2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

          3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

          ChristopherD This user is from outside of this forum
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          Christopher
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          #115

          @cstross When people used to list life skills they thought should be taught in schools rather than academic subjects, how to wire a plug was a popular choice. So also was how to balance a chequebook.

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          • MauriceB Maurice

            @tautology @ssilvonen @cstross I feel I need to here more of the tales of Ackroyd, prithee, tell us what are the best things in life?

            tautologyT This user is from outside of this forum
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            tautology
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            #116

            @barnesmaurice @ssilvonen @cstross Food, beer, a warm sheep and companions. Wait, 'OW MUCH! Nah, tha can all bugger off and leave me t'misen.

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            • Albert HickeyW Albert Hickey

              @cstross

              Copilot just now with prompt.
              show me a picture to explain how to wire a UK plug

              Interested in the Earth being a 4th pin and the Earth pin having a live (coloured) wire going to it.
              Also, a screw labelled as LIVE is concerning.

              Albert HickeyW This user is from outside of this forum
              Albert HickeyW This user is from outside of this forum
              Albert Hickey
              wrote last edited by
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              @cstross

              Tried asking how to use a chainsaw and Copilot refused.
              So, chainsaw dangerous wiring a plug is OK.

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              • MH ThaungM MH Thaung

                @cstross Seems it would save time just to stick your fingers directly into the socket, no?

                Stephen J HenstridgeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                #118

                @mhthaung @cstross I expect ChatGPT has instructions for that

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                • James 🌈💜S James 🌈💜

                  @oddhack @cstross

                  Don't worry, your bank will do it for you.

                  Access Denied

                  favicon

                  (www.macquarie.com.au)

                  Bruno NicolettiB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Bruno Nicoletti
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                  @shaknais @oddhack @cstross I wonder if they’ll be happy to accept liability for any advice given when it inevitably goes disastrously wrong. There is a weak disclaimer at the bottom of the page. “You should always check your official statements before making product or other financial decisions.”

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                  • ChristopherD Christopher

                    @cstross When people used to list life skills they thought should be taught in schools rather than academic subjects, how to wire a plug was a popular choice. So also was how to balance a chequebook.

                    Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                    Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                    Charlie Stross
                    wrote last edited by
                    #120

                    @dearlove Also how to correctly address a letter (both on the envelope and in writing the contents). Reading a clock face and tying your shoelaces was supposed to be covered before primary school, though (by parents or kindergarten).

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                    • tautologyT tautology

                      @cstross I do these threads every so often. My most recent one was on my Bluesky where I got four LLMs to draw maps progressively getting more zoomed in (the World, Europe, UK, Yorkshire, York).

                      Things got worse each time you zoomed in, sometimes with "memories" from the previous image. My favourite was the attached version of Yorkshire.

                      I'll do another one in a month or two.

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                      @tautology @cstross Scotland was destroyed during the war.

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                      • tautologyT tautology

                        @cstross I do these threads every so often. My most recent one was on my Bluesky where I got four LLMs to draw maps progressively getting more zoomed in (the World, Europe, UK, Yorkshire, York).

                        Things got worse each time you zoomed in, sometimes with "memories" from the previous image. My favourite was the attached version of Yorkshire.

                        I'll do another one in a month or two.

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                        James TweedieM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #122

                        @cstross @tautology I love the network of rivers that connect and cross all over the place. Let's see who can define the watershed....

                        I assume Scotland has gained ultimate geological independence and is somewhere to the north of RIVRI TEMS (?).

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                          Notes for Americans:

                          1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                          2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                          3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                          Oliver SchönrockO This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Oliver Schönrock
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                          @cstross omg that's painful to even look at

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                          • Nigel WadsworthN Nigel Wadsworth

                            @cstross I just asked Gemini to create one for us in Australia. Might try it later… just not sure…

                            CadeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #124

                            @nygl @cstross This is a great idea to keep plugs from being accidentally kicked loose!

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                            • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                              @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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                              @Sie @nygl @cstross WTF is that???

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                              • Jacobo Da Riva MuñozJ Jacobo Da Riva Muñoz

                                @Sie @nygl @cstross WTF is that???

                                Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Charlie Stross
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                                #126

                                @jdrm @Sie @nygl Congratulations, you've discovered the thread about what happens if you ask various LLMs how to correctly wire up different types of mains plug (starting with British ones: all the suggestions are an electrocution hazard) …

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                                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                  @jdrm @Sie @nygl Congratulations, you've discovered the thread about what happens if you ask various LLMs how to correctly wire up different types of mains plug (starting with British ones: all the suggestions are an electrocution hazard) …

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                                  Knud Jahnke
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                                  #127

                                  @cstross @jdrm @Sie @nygl

                                  You could have just said: "Congratulations, you've discovered the thread about what happens if you ask various LLMs."

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                                    James RavenscroftJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    James RavenscroftJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    James Ravenscroft
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                                    @cstross ah yes people often make the mistake of confusing live and blive. Thankfully this diagram makes it very clear which is which

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                                    • Dan O'GinnecD Dan O'Ginnec

                                      @Sie @nygl @cstross

                                      This is what you get if you use a very old Generative AI:

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                                      Splendid Alex
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                                      @DanKen @Sie @nygl @cstross Surprisingly charming, in its way.

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                                      • Dan O'GinnecD Dan O'Ginnec

                                        @Sie @nygl @cstross

                                        This is what you get if you use a very old Generative AI:

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                                        Chuckles ❤️🏳️‍⚧️🇺🇦❤️
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                                        @DanKen @Sie @nygl @cstross alt-text on point, historical accuracy difficult to verify

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                                        • C.S.StrowbridgeC C.S.Strowbridge

                                          @cstross

                                          "1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs)."

                                          This is such a stupid thing.

                                          The plug itself is very good, but having to wire it yourself is painfully dumb.

                                          Ed DaviesE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @csstrowbridge The change was a decade or two later than it needed to be, but there was a time (1950s/60s) when requiring electrical items to be sold without a plug made sense. Much existing house wiring had not yet been converted to BS1363 sockets which was not a simple matter of replacing the socket. Given that “everybody” knew how to wire their local plug design it wasn't a big deal.

                                          @cstross

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