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  • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

    BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

    Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

    (edit: Why, you ask? Long thread coming up … 1/7)

    Marcos DioneM This user is from outside of this forum
    Marcos DioneM This user is from outside of this forum
    Marcos Dione
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    #25

    @meganmariehart I once run an experiment similar to yours. I asked people to boost a toot with a URL to a webserver I controlled, no hashtags either. It got <3k boosts. Yours will probably get similar numbers. At that point, IIRC, the Fedi (or was it just Mastodon?) was ~2M accounts, so it reached ~15% of the net. I wrote abut it here:

    The mastodon effect: meta discussion

    Yesterday1 I did something that I don't know how to qualify. At the beginning I was just playing a silly thing where I registered a new domain on a dynamic domain service. I set up Apache on my home s

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    • Marcos DioneM Marcos Dione

      @meganmariehart I once run an experiment similar to yours. I asked people to boost a toot with a URL to a webserver I controlled, no hashtags either. It got <3k boosts. Yours will probably get similar numbers. At that point, IIRC, the Fedi (or was it just Mastodon?) was ~2M accounts, so it reached ~15% of the net. I wrote abut it here:

      The mastodon effect: meta discussion

      Yesterday1 I did something that I don't know how to qualify. At the beginning I was just playing a silly thing where I registered a new domain on a dynamic domain service. I set up Apache on my home s

      favicon

      .:: Marcos Dione/StyXman's glob ::. (www.grulic.org.ar)

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      Marcos DioneM This user is from outside of this forum
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      Marcos Dione
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      #26

      @meganmariehart But hashtags are the best way to reach people. You mention a theater. They should post with hashtags of their region of influence (city, province, etc), the type of œvre (opera, music, etc) and maybe a couple more. They should sniff around until they find the right ones. I wish there were tools for that, hmmm...

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      • Marcos DioneM Marcos Dione

        @meganmariehart But hashtags are the best way to reach people. You mention a theater. They should post with hashtags of their region of influence (city, province, etc), the type of œvre (opera, music, etc) and maybe a couple more. They should sniff around until they find the right ones. I wish there were tools for that, hmmm...

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        Marcos DioneM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #27

        Hey #fediverse ! (See?) Is there a tool that would help find popular hashtags? This should help newcomers, specially institutions like theaters, find ways to reach more people here!

        @meganmariehart

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        • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

          … to demonstrate that Fediverse posts are worth the time and effort. Perhaps there is also an argument for a feature request: maybe there should be audience metrics for toots?! Though I imagine that could be difficult due to Federation. Again, I have no idea if one already gets numbers and insight by running an instance.)

          Perhaps we can move beyond numbers in the long run, but for now, I fear people enjoy them even if they gain nothing from them. Kinda like a game highscore, I suppose.

          7/7

          Patrick GeorgiP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #28

          @meganmariehart You're posting links to the shows, and you seem to be reasonably well connected on the Fediverse - you could pick one to leave out (together with the theatre's media team) and they could check their analysis tools to see how much of a dent that makes to website traffic.

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          • Marcos DioneM Marcos Dione

            Hey #fediverse ! (See?) Is there a tool that would help find popular hashtags? This should help newcomers, specially institutions like theaters, find ways to reach more people here!

            @meganmariehart

            Megan Marie HartM This user is from outside of this forum
            Megan Marie HartM This user is from outside of this forum
            Megan Marie Hart
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            #29

            @mdione My idea was to test the potential reach of a post without hashtags, basically just for the sake of discussion. After all, it's not just about finding an existing audience, but also about building one. (There are some bots that post trending tags, I figure it should be possbile to tweak one of them to show hashtags used in connection to a specific topic?)
            Thank you!

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            • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

              … to demonstrate that Fediverse posts are worth the time and effort. Perhaps there is also an argument for a feature request: maybe there should be audience metrics for toots?! Though I imagine that could be difficult due to Federation. Again, I have no idea if one already gets numbers and insight by running an instance.)

              Perhaps we can move beyond numbers in the long run, but for now, I fear people enjoy them even if they gain nothing from them. Kinda like a game highscore, I suppose.

              7/7

              Marcin JakubowskiJ This user is from outside of this forum
              Marcin JakubowskiJ This user is from outside of this forum
              Marcin Jakubowski
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              #30

              @meganmariehart I am reading your posts carefully. 🙂 Sadly, it's far too far to travel from Greifswald to Darmstadt, but I'm really envious of the programme at your theatre.

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              • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                All theaters have websites. I’m not tech-savvy (my husband takes care of that for me), but it seems to me that if you have a website and domain, setting up a Mastodon server can’t be that hard. Perhaps it’s even possible to run it as an outlet only, then they wouldn’t have to deal with moderation. I think every publicly funded entity should have a presence on the Fediverse instead of commercial social media. (Or at least in addition to.) My experimental toot is meant to create an example …
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                André MenrathL This user is from outside of this forum
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                André Menrath
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                #31

                @meganmariehart Many theaters have websites that run via the software WordPress. All they have to do is install a plugin (and to take 10 minutes reviewing the settings) and their website is connected to the Fediverse. Even less work.

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                • G Goodlucksil

                  @meganmariehart Very first post on my "trending" feed, so quite popular, E guess.

                  Megan Marie HartM This user is from outside of this forum
                  Megan Marie HartM This user is from outside of this forum
                  Megan Marie Hart
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                  #32

                  @Goodlucksil Isn’t that wild? I did NOT expect that. But that’s perfect for my purpose. I’ve edited the post to explain why I made this request. Thank you!

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                  • MetalBrawlerM MetalBrawler

                    @meganmariehart If you don't add hashtags, you miss the audience that follows a particular hashtag. Those people are potential new subscribers.

                    Megan Marie HartM This user is from outside of this forum
                    Megan Marie HartM This user is from outside of this forum
                    Megan Marie Hart
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                    #33

                    @metalbrawler I wanted to test the potential reach of a post without hashtags, basically just for the sake of discussion. My home theater has a Mastodon account since 2022 but never posted anything! Perhaps I can convince them to get active if I can show them a posts potential, and maybe other theaters and artists will join. Fingers crossed!🤞
                    Thank you!

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                    • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                      (Nobody actually asked why, but I imagine someone must have thought it.) Curiosity is one reason, the other is a recent offline discussion about whether we are hindering a more wide spread adoption of the Fediverse because we dislike advertisements. It’s possible that brands and “influencer”-type people aren’t getting the kick they’re used to from the Fediverse because there are no metrics showing how many people have seen a post. Perhaps it’s different with your own instance – I don’t know!
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                      @meganmariehart "we are hindering a more wide spread adoption of the Fediverse because we dislike advertisements."

                      "We" being who precisely?

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                      • AvacadoAvengerA AvacadoAvenger

                        @meganmariehart

                        I saw it and gave it a star. Reach is hard to quantify.

                        Megan Marie HartM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #35

                        @AvacadoAvenger I figured as much. I'm just trying to gauge the size of the ballpark. Thank you!

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                        • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                          BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                          Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

                          (edit: Why, you ask? Long thread coming up … 1/7)

                          Simon BrookeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @meganmariehart I see it. But I boost or quote only things which have value.

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                          • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                            @mdione My idea was to test the potential reach of a post without hashtags, basically just for the sake of discussion. After all, it's not just about finding an existing audience, but also about building one. (There are some bots that post trending tags, I figure it should be possbile to tweak one of them to show hashtags used in connection to a specific topic?)
                            Thank you!

                            Marcos DioneM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Marcos Dione
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                            #37

                            @meganmariehart well, I think our experiments are biased; or at least should show a far upper limit of reach via boosts.

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                            • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                              BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                              Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

                              (edit: Why, you ask? Long thread coming up … 1/7)

                              Nervensäge 💐I This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @meganmariehart

                              Fedi.Tips (@FediTips@social.growyourown.services)

                              Had several questions about how the main "Home" feed works on Mastodon. Here's what it shows: 1. All posts from all accounts you follow in chronological order, newest at top 2. All posts shared by accounts or groups you follow 3. Posts that use hashtags you follow in chronological order, newest at top ...and that's it, there's nothing else on your Home feed. It doesn't push anything else at you, it doesn't hide anything from you unless you ask it to. No algorithms, no ads. #FediTips #Mastodon

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                              • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                                I feel like I get more meaningful interaction (and perhaps even ticket sales!) from a Mastodon post about an upcoming show than from posts on other social media platforms. But a “feeling” dosen’t help when trying to convince people to join. Or to get active. My current theater @staatstheaterdarmstadt is on here since 2022 – zero posts! I would like them to get active or even set up their own instance. I think every theater should have its own instance! It can’t be more work than FB and IG.
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                                Petra van CronenburgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Petra van Cronenburg
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                                @meganmariehart @staatstheaterdarmstadt Before getting them an own instance, let them fill their account! Without communication, no followers.
                                Mastodon prepares an entry for newcomers where they can find local instances instead of the one big. They can move at every moment.
                                My experience with social media (I work professionally with these): With much less followers you get much more interaction and relations to your audience in the Fediverse. But only if you are communicating actively. The ratio

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                                • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

                                  @meganmariehart @staatstheaterdarmstadt Before getting them an own instance, let them fill their account! Without communication, no followers.
                                  Mastodon prepares an entry for newcomers where they can find local instances instead of the one big. They can move at every moment.
                                  My experience with social media (I work professionally with these): With much less followers you get much more interaction and relations to your audience in the Fediverse. But only if you are communicating actively. The ratio

                                  Petra van CronenburgN This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Petra van CronenburgN This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Petra van Cronenburg
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                                  @meganmariehart for me was about 3:1: 3 times as much followers on Twitter but the same amount of interaction.

                                  The problem is that the bosses of social media teams need to relearn: quality over quantity. It is inherent in algorithm-driven profit platforms that clicks and numbers count because of advertising. And there is no reason to want to artificially imitate this in a medium made for people. There are now even studies showing that more and more people are turning away from algorithmic

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                                  • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                                    … to demonstrate that Fediverse posts are worth the time and effort. Perhaps there is also an argument for a feature request: maybe there should be audience metrics for toots?! Though I imagine that could be difficult due to Federation. Again, I have no idea if one already gets numbers and insight by running an instance.)

                                    Perhaps we can move beyond numbers in the long run, but for now, I fear people enjoy them even if they gain nothing from them. Kinda like a game highscore, I suppose.

                                    7/7

                                    HansH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Hans
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                                    @meganmariehart

                                    Agree!!!

                                    In fact I don't want them to be on X, Whatsapp etc and should also not be allowed to use Windows ideally.

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                                    • Marcos DioneM Marcos Dione

                                      @meganmariehart well, I think our experiments are biased; or at least should show a far upper limit of reach via boosts.

                                      Megan Marie HartM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Megan Marie HartM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Megan Marie Hart
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                                      @mdione Yes, that makes sense. We didn’t start the experiments from new accounts, and since my experiment appeared in the trending feed, it has probably reached far more people than it should have! (But on the other hand, if I want to convince people and organizations to join the Fediverse, why not do so with a best-case scenario! 😂 )

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                                      • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                                        I feel like I get more meaningful interaction (and perhaps even ticket sales!) from a Mastodon post about an upcoming show than from posts on other social media platforms. But a “feeling” dosen’t help when trying to convince people to join. Or to get active. My current theater @staatstheaterdarmstadt is on here since 2022 – zero posts! I would like them to get active or even set up their own instance. I think every theater should have its own instance! It can’t be more work than FB and IG.
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                                        MortenD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @meganmariehart @staatstheaterdarmstadt Even if you don't want actively post you could have your RSS feed go into your Mastodon account. Then you just need to check notifications for comments and toot-toots.

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                                        • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

                                          @meganmariehart for me was about 3:1: 3 times as much followers on Twitter but the same amount of interaction.

                                          The problem is that the bosses of social media teams need to relearn: quality over quantity. It is inherent in algorithm-driven profit platforms that clicks and numbers count because of advertising. And there is no reason to want to artificially imitate this in a medium made for people. There are now even studies showing that more and more people are turning away from algorithmic

                                          Petra van CronenburgN This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Petra van CronenburgN This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Petra van Cronenburg
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                                          @meganmariehart rubbish, especially young people.
                                          What's missing in the Fedi are local connections when you depend on real visitors. Hashtags don't work satisfactorily for this. Our groups are only boosting bots. One reason why the museum for which I unofficially do storytelling is officially on Facebook and Instagram: it is that that's where the real visitors are.
                                          I can only encourage people to focus on communication rather than numbers. But this requires people power within the institutions.

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