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Is your Mastodon timeline too empty or too full?

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  • FinchHaven sfbaF FinchHaven sfba

    @FediTips

    I am attemting to translate using the Translate text at the bottom of given post

    Again my instance uses LibreTranslate

    Sometimes I'll click through to the post on the origin instance and try there

    Sometimes (when I have a lot of time to waste and I'm in a better mood) I'll open up the instances

    /public/local

    and see

    1) if they have any posts in anything other than their native language, and

    2) do they seem to offer any translation at all

    And here's the core point:

    how much effort should I be expected to expand, to translate a foreign / European/ German post just to read something that ends up being extremely mundane

    And how much finite screen space am I expected to give to posts / posters I'll never be able to translate and read?

    I've already Muted and Blocked two in the last 15 minutes...

    Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
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    Fedi.Tips
    wrote last edited by
    #25

    @FinchHaven

    Are you seeing a "translate" button below remote posts you are viewing within your own instance's website?

    If you are, what happens when you click it? (Not on the origin instance but when viewed within your own instance's interface.)

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    • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

      @FinchHaven

      Are you seeing a "translate" button below remote posts you are viewing within your own instance's website?

      If you are, what happens when you click it? (Not on the origin instance but when viewed within your own instance's interface.)

      FinchHaven sfbaF This user is from outside of this forum
      FinchHaven sfbaF This user is from outside of this forum
      FinchHaven sfba
      wrote last edited by
      #26

      @FediTips

      JFC...

      I have four tabs open, Firefox web browser on Ubuntu, to my home instance

      /home

      /public/local

      my Lists

      and my Profile home

      I'm on my /home tab viewing posts

      I am looking for and using the Translate tag at the lower left of a given post

      Do you need a screenshot to understand what I'm saying?

      Or do you think I don't know what I'm talking about?

      Fedi.TipsF Sebastiaan Ammerlaan ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑB 2 Replies Last reply
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      • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

        @BlameDutchie @gotofritz

        "The most common definition of an algorithm is: a finite, step-by-step sequence of precise instructions"

        I'm not talking about a technical dictionary definition, I mean the way non-technical people actually use that word in the real world.

        They'll typically say something like "the algorithm is showing me stuff" or "the algorithm has hidden my post".

        My accounts and websites are largely aimed at non-technical people, so I try to use non-technical meanings and words.

        RonaldB This user is from outside of this forum
        RonaldB This user is from outside of this forum
        Ronald
        wrote last edited by
        #27

        @FediTips @gotofritz

        I agree with Fritz... You are not even willing to consider you could do better.

        So be it. I have better things to do than trying to convince someone he is writing like an AI.

        Cheers.

        Adrian Riskin ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‰A 1 Reply Last reply
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        • FinchHaven sfbaF FinchHaven sfba

          @FediTips

          JFC...

          I have four tabs open, Firefox web browser on Ubuntu, to my home instance

          /home

          /public/local

          my Lists

          and my Profile home

          I'm on my /home tab viewing posts

          I am looking for and using the Translate tag at the lower left of a given post

          Do you need a screenshot to understand what I'm saying?

          Or do you think I don't know what I'm talking about?

          Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
          Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
          Fedi.Tips
          wrote last edited by
          #28

          @FinchHaven

          "Or do you think I don't know what I'm talking about?"

          Absolutely not! I am the one who doesn't understand, I am trying to get a better picture of what is going on by asking for details ๐Ÿ™‚

          I'm trying to help.

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          • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

            Is your Mastodon timeline too empty or too full? Are you seeing stuff you don't want to, and missing stuff you do want to see? Is your timeline overwhelmed by someone who shares too many posts?

            These and lots more timeline problems are solved in the "How to customise your Mastodon timeline" guide:

            โžก๏ธ https://fedi.tips/does-mastodon-and-the-fediverse-use-algorithms-does-it-start-pushing-stuff-at-me-based-on-my-interactions

            #FediTips #Mastodon

            Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
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            Fedi.Tips
            wrote last edited by
            #29

            p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

            Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

            If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

            FaraiweF Kierkegaanks regretfullyK CoolerPseudonymC arosano ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฐ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑA Martin EscardoM 44 Replies Last reply
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            • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

              p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

              Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

              If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

              FaraiweF This user is from outside of this forum
              FaraiweF This user is from outside of this forum
              Faraiwe
              wrote last edited by
              #30

              @FediTips there is no pleasing those both humorless and in terminal thrall of Dunning Kruger. Just block, move on.

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              • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                Kierkegaanks regretfullyK This user is from outside of this forum
                Kierkegaanks regretfullyK This user is from outside of this forum
                Kierkegaanks regretfully
                wrote last edited by
                #31

                @FediTips that sounds exactly like mastodon

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                • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                  p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                  Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                  If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                  CoolerPseudonymC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  CoolerPseudonym
                  wrote last edited by
                  #32

                  @FediTips I am sending more kofi money

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                  • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                    p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                    Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                    If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                    arosano ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฐ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑA This user is from outside of this forum
                    arosano ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฐ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑA This user is from outside of this forum
                    arosano ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฐ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ
                    wrote last edited by
                    #33

                    @FediTips You are doing an excellent job. Don't let them get to you.

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                    • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                      p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                      Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                      If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                      Martin EscardoM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #34

                      @FediTips asks "Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly?"

                      I highly recommend that.

                      Always.

                      But also particularly when somebody is trying to help without compensation, just for the sake of the community.

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                      • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                        p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                        Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                        If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                        K This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Kaliah
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                        #35

                        @FediTips Ugh, some people just need to chill. I think you're doing fine.

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                        • CoolerPseudonymC CoolerPseudonym

                          @FediTips I am sending more kofi money

                          CoolerPseudonymC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          CoolerPseudonym
                          wrote last edited by
                          #36

                          @FediTips Perhaps a positive reinforcement will outweigh the negative one you just got

                          Thank you for what you do.

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                          • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                            p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                            Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                            If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                            PiperP This user is from outside of this forum
                            PiperP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            wrote last edited by
                            #37

                            @FediTips I just glanced through the article to see how you were using the word. You even explained how you were using it and why while acknowledging that other meanings exist. I would give that an A+ for communication. I'm sorry someone decided to be mean to you. I hope one day they learn to chill out and help people instead.

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                            • Janne MorenJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Janne Moren
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                              #38

                              @Arthfach @FediTips
                              Sorted in chronological order is absolutely an algorithm.

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                              • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                                p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                                ShallersS This user is from outside of this forum
                                ShallersS This user is from outside of this forum
                                Shallers
                                wrote last edited by
                                #39

                                @FediTips chill buddy please. Just donยดt let it get to you.
                                Iยดm critizising a lot about this platform but never personal. There is potential lost here, thatยดs true imho.
                                Donยดt let that get on a personal level, please

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                                • @threeforks@Mastodon.SocialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @threeforks@Mastodon.Social
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #40

                                  @Arthfach @FediTips Agree 500 Trump percents. You ARE doing a great job. Ignore the pestilence.

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                                  • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                                    p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                    Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                    If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                                    Dan Fixes Coin-OpsI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Dan Fixes Coin-Ops
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #41

                                    @FediTips this thread is providing good blocklist fodder. Lotta pendants showing their arses today.

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                                    • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                                      p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                      Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                      If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                                      OwlorO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Owlor
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #42

                                      @FediTips Accusing someone of causing harm for using the non-technical definition of algorithm is kind of darkly funny in a way.

                                      Like it's clear that they understand that words can have expanded and non-literal definitions, but seemingly only for words they want to use to make a fiddly argument about terminology sounds more dire.

                                      Tbh, between the word "algorithm" and the word "harm", it is probably more important to insist on an accurate definition of the word "harm".

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                                      • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                                        p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                        Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                        If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                                        RitaB This user is from outside of this forum
                                        RitaB This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Rita
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #43

                                        @FediTips

                                        Just want to say that I really appreciate the work you're doing and your guides are great and really helped me to navigate mastodon a bit more confidently . thank you โค๏ธ

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                                        • Janne MorenJ Janne Moren

                                          @Arthfach @FediTips
                                          Sorted in chronological order is absolutely an algorithm.

                                          Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Fedi.Tips
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #44

                                          @jannem @arthfach

                                          It is by the dictionary definition, it isn't by common usage. What the dictionary says on technical matters often diverges from common usage.

                                          Maybe the clearest example is "computer": Most people use that word to mean a laptop or desktop PC/Mac and not a smartphone. But going by the dictionary definition of "computer", the smartphone ought to be called a computer too.

                                          I'm trying to use common usage as I'm mainly aiming my guides at new and non-technical people.

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