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Is anyone else experience this thing where your fellow senior engineers seem to be lobotomised by AI?

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  • Purple :verified:P Purple :verified:

    Is anyone else experience this thing where your fellow senior engineers seem to be lobotomised by AI?

    I've had 4 different senior engineers in the last week come up with absolutely insane changes or code, that they were instructed to do by AI. Things that if you used your brain for a few minutes you should realise just don't work.

    They also rarely can explain why they make these changes or what the code actually does.

    I feel like I'm absolutely going insane, and it also makes me not able to trust anyones answers or analysis' because I /know/ there is a high chance they should asked AI and wrote it off as their own.

    I think the effect AI has had on our industry's knowledge is really significant, and it's honestly very scary.

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    #32

    @Purple@woof.tech oh yea this has definitely happened to me. i feel like its most prominent in people who also overestimate their own abilities, which is also surprisingly common in this industry

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    • Maimuaika πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈC Maimuaika πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Έ

      @Purple I think there would be less stories like these if the industry was more focused on just programming rather than having overengineered cringe solutions to suck off investors, so people do things that are actually interesting and have a real impact for the good rather than putting stress, pressure and making engineers just hate their hobby

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      #33

      @clumsy

      Actually really valid observation, the industry has been sick for a while in general

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      • Purple :verified:P Purple :verified:

        Is anyone else experience this thing where your fellow senior engineers seem to be lobotomised by AI?

        I've had 4 different senior engineers in the last week come up with absolutely insane changes or code, that they were instructed to do by AI. Things that if you used your brain for a few minutes you should realise just don't work.

        They also rarely can explain why they make these changes or what the code actually does.

        I feel like I'm absolutely going insane, and it also makes me not able to trust anyones answers or analysis' because I /know/ there is a high chance they should asked AI and wrote it off as their own.

        I think the effect AI has had on our industry's knowledge is really significant, and it's honestly very scary.

        oo im so employable oo u want to hire me so badK This user is from outside of this forum
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        oo im so employable oo u want to hire me so bad
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        #34

        @Purple me, an unhired watching all the experienced people melt their brains:

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        • Purple :verified:P Purple :verified:

          Is anyone else experience this thing where your fellow senior engineers seem to be lobotomised by AI?

          I've had 4 different senior engineers in the last week come up with absolutely insane changes or code, that they were instructed to do by AI. Things that if you used your brain for a few minutes you should realise just don't work.

          They also rarely can explain why they make these changes or what the code actually does.

          I feel like I'm absolutely going insane, and it also makes me not able to trust anyones answers or analysis' because I /know/ there is a high chance they should asked AI and wrote it off as their own.

          I think the effect AI has had on our industry's knowledge is really significant, and it's honestly very scary.

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          wrote last edited by
          #35

          @Purple to a much lesser degree, it happens to me too

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          • oo im so employable oo u want to hire me so badK oo im so employable oo u want to hire me so bad

            @Purple me, an unhired watching all the experienced people melt their brains:

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            #36

            @kirakira Not sure if jealous... Maybe a little bit if we ignore the financials of it

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            • Purple :verified:P Purple :verified:

              Is anyone else experience this thing where your fellow senior engineers seem to be lobotomised by AI?

              I've had 4 different senior engineers in the last week come up with absolutely insane changes or code, that they were instructed to do by AI. Things that if you used your brain for a few minutes you should realise just don't work.

              They also rarely can explain why they make these changes or what the code actually does.

              I feel like I'm absolutely going insane, and it also makes me not able to trust anyones answers or analysis' because I /know/ there is a high chance they should asked AI and wrote it off as their own.

              I think the effect AI has had on our industry's knowledge is really significant, and it's honestly very scary.

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              Emelia/Emi
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              #37

              @Purple One of my coworkers (very much not a senior though) is in a particularly dangerous spot for how he uses it, as he frequently doesn't have the foundational knowledge to understand how the output is only convincing-sounding bullshit, and he's leaning on it so hard I'm not sure if he's actually learning those foundations...

              Meanwhile I'm the resident stick-in-the-mud who knows how the damned things actually work under the hood, trying to temper the marketing-wank everyone's blindly repeating... My boss is appreciative though, as he understands that it's coming more from simple pragmatism about the environment the tech exists in than "fear of change" (even if it did actually work, (which it usually doesn't) VCs are currently shoveling money into a furnace to subsidize it, and when that money dries up it's going to skyrocket in price to the point it's likely not cost-effective)

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              • Purple :verified:P Purple :verified:

                @kirakira Not sure if jealous... Maybe a little bit if we ignore the financials of it

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                #38

                @Purple no no the financials ruin everything else, i'm 32 and i've never had autonomy over my own living situation, i can remember every time i've been on an airplane, and i can't even go to local cons anymore unless people help pay for it. i think a moderate tech salary is my yearly income every 2-3 months, there's a reason i'm still trying to get in

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                • Purple :verified:P Purple :verified:

                  Is anyone else experience this thing where your fellow senior engineers seem to be lobotomised by AI?

                  I've had 4 different senior engineers in the last week come up with absolutely insane changes or code, that they were instructed to do by AI. Things that if you used your brain for a few minutes you should realise just don't work.

                  They also rarely can explain why they make these changes or what the code actually does.

                  I feel like I'm absolutely going insane, and it also makes me not able to trust anyones answers or analysis' because I /know/ there is a high chance they should asked AI and wrote it off as their own.

                  I think the effect AI has had on our industry's knowledge is really significant, and it's honestly very scary.

                  Ludovic Archivist LagouardetteA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Ludovic Archivist Lagouardette
                  wrote last edited by
                  #39

                  @Purple I was asked today why I don't want to teach juniors and beginners how to use AI to write code. This. This is why

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                  • Purple :verified:P Purple :verified:

                    Is anyone else experience this thing where your fellow senior engineers seem to be lobotomised by AI?

                    I've had 4 different senior engineers in the last week come up with absolutely insane changes or code, that they were instructed to do by AI. Things that if you used your brain for a few minutes you should realise just don't work.

                    They also rarely can explain why they make these changes or what the code actually does.

                    I feel like I'm absolutely going insane, and it also makes me not able to trust anyones answers or analysis' because I /know/ there is a high chance they should asked AI and wrote it off as their own.

                    I think the effect AI has had on our industry's knowledge is really significant, and it's honestly very scary.

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                    h4890
                    wrote last edited by
                    #40

                    @Purple Well, I am benefitting from others stupid vibe coding, but yes, I can't wait until the AI bubble bursts so we can get back to sane industry practices.

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                    • Ludovic Archivist LagouardetteA Ludovic Archivist Lagouardette

                      @Purple I was asked today why I don't want to teach juniors and beginners how to use AI to write code. This. This is why

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                      #41

                      @Archivist @Purple i mean, that would be a short lesson: Don't.

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                      • Purple :verified:P Purple :verified:

                        Is anyone else experience this thing where your fellow senior engineers seem to be lobotomised by AI?

                        I've had 4 different senior engineers in the last week come up with absolutely insane changes or code, that they were instructed to do by AI. Things that if you used your brain for a few minutes you should realise just don't work.

                        They also rarely can explain why they make these changes or what the code actually does.

                        I feel like I'm absolutely going insane, and it also makes me not able to trust anyones answers or analysis' because I /know/ there is a high chance they should asked AI and wrote it off as their own.

                        I think the effect AI has had on our industry's knowledge is really significant, and it's honestly very scary.

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                        cambria
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                        #42

                        @Purple
                        I think once a week I'm either told I'm going to get left behind if I don't get up to speed on .... prompting an LLM idk.

                        Or mocked for trying to save the world/rainforest, being contrarian for not using AI.

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                        • Purple :verified:P Purple :verified:

                          Is anyone else experience this thing where your fellow senior engineers seem to be lobotomised by AI?

                          I've had 4 different senior engineers in the last week come up with absolutely insane changes or code, that they were instructed to do by AI. Things that if you used your brain for a few minutes you should realise just don't work.

                          They also rarely can explain why they make these changes or what the code actually does.

                          I feel like I'm absolutely going insane, and it also makes me not able to trust anyones answers or analysis' because I /know/ there is a high chance they should asked AI and wrote it off as their own.

                          I think the effect AI has had on our industry's knowledge is really significant, and it's honestly very scary.

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                          LewdLewis
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                          #43

                          @Purple I experienced something similar with people around me. They ask me the weirdest questions. They would even ask me things like "how do I run this python script" even though they have done it before. They ask "I want this and that, how do I do that?" when I already explained it and documented it.

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                          • Purple :verified:P Purple :verified:

                            Is anyone else experience this thing where your fellow senior engineers seem to be lobotomised by AI?

                            I've had 4 different senior engineers in the last week come up with absolutely insane changes or code, that they were instructed to do by AI. Things that if you used your brain for a few minutes you should realise just don't work.

                            They also rarely can explain why they make these changes or what the code actually does.

                            I feel like I'm absolutely going insane, and it also makes me not able to trust anyones answers or analysis' because I /know/ there is a high chance they should asked AI and wrote it off as their own.

                            I think the effect AI has had on our industry's knowledge is really significant, and it's honestly very scary.

                            Romain PoucletP This user is from outside of this forum
                            Romain PoucletP This user is from outside of this forum
                            Romain Pouclet
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                            #44

                            @Purple someone compared this feeling to being one of the only humans left in a zombie apocalypse, the more I think about it, the more I agree.

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                            • Purple :verified:P Purple :verified:

                              Is anyone else experience this thing where your fellow senior engineers seem to be lobotomised by AI?

                              I've had 4 different senior engineers in the last week come up with absolutely insane changes or code, that they were instructed to do by AI. Things that if you used your brain for a few minutes you should realise just don't work.

                              They also rarely can explain why they make these changes or what the code actually does.

                              I feel like I'm absolutely going insane, and it also makes me not able to trust anyones answers or analysis' because I /know/ there is a high chance they should asked AI and wrote it off as their own.

                              I think the effect AI has had on our industry's knowledge is really significant, and it's honestly very scary.

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                              zygmyd
                              wrote last edited by
                              #45

                              @Purple

                              "...just ask Copilot to turn it into a curl" from next to me the other day.

                              So that would be a yes, and not just the once either. (But for other items than not even writing your own curl command line.)

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                              • The Penguin of EvilE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @Arthfach @Purple Containers was quite deliberate. On one side there were programmers going "ooh this will make our life easier" and on the management side everyone was like "excellent, we can replace all the dev people with low wage mcjobs"

                                That one was earned and served the management right 😎

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                                • Maimuaika πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈC Maimuaika πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Έ

                                  @Purple I think there would be less stories like these if the industry was more focused on just programming rather than having overengineered cringe solutions to suck off investors, so people do things that are actually interesting and have a real impact for the good rather than putting stress, pressure and making engineers just hate their hobby

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                                  @clumsy @Purple wow you must hate capitalism

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                                  • ε››Y ε››

                                    @Purple I think it’s more exposing than changing.

                                    AI coding won’t make you able to do something you can’t do, it can give you code you must understand and verify.

                                    It can’t replace someone with knowledge, but it can, if used sensibly, augment some parts. Like boring refactoring and generating some simple boring stuff.

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                                    @yon @Purple A recent study found that AI used in the coding workplace created feelings of efficiency, but actually caused a slowdown in production.

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                                    • Purple :verified:P Purple :verified:

                                      Is anyone else experience this thing where your fellow senior engineers seem to be lobotomised by AI?

                                      I've had 4 different senior engineers in the last week come up with absolutely insane changes or code, that they were instructed to do by AI. Things that if you used your brain for a few minutes you should realise just don't work.

                                      They also rarely can explain why they make these changes or what the code actually does.

                                      I feel like I'm absolutely going insane, and it also makes me not able to trust anyones answers or analysis' because I /know/ there is a high chance they should asked AI and wrote it off as their own.

                                      I think the effect AI has had on our industry's knowledge is really significant, and it's honestly very scary.

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                                      @Purple I'll be looking for a new position next month and I'm scared

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                                        @Purple I'll be looking for a new position next month and I'm scared

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                                        @gkrnours I'm trying to find a new job but I'm so worried a lot of IT engineering jobs are like this now 😭

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                                        • Purple :verified:P Purple :verified:

                                          Is anyone else experience this thing where your fellow senior engineers seem to be lobotomised by AI?

                                          I've had 4 different senior engineers in the last week come up with absolutely insane changes or code, that they were instructed to do by AI. Things that if you used your brain for a few minutes you should realise just don't work.

                                          They also rarely can explain why they make these changes or what the code actually does.

                                          I feel like I'm absolutely going insane, and it also makes me not able to trust anyones answers or analysis' because I /know/ there is a high chance they should asked AI and wrote it off as their own.

                                          I think the effect AI has had on our industry's knowledge is really significant, and it's honestly very scary.

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                                          @Purple don't worry it will only get worse since it hits every other industry eventually....

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