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  • Dr. Christopher KunzC Dr. Christopher Kunz

    @GossiTheDog uploading the BitLocker recovery keys to the MS cloud is not default behavior, is it? Even the Forbes article states that you can opt-out of it (or do you even have to opt-in?).

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    @christopherkunz @GossiTheDog if you have to to opt out, that makes it default behaviour by definition. 🙂

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    • jaKa MočnikJ jaKa Močnik

      @christopherkunz @GossiTheDog if you have to to opt out, that makes it default behaviour by definition. 🙂

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      @jkmcnk Yup, certainly. Firing up my win machine now to see what's up with that.

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      • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

        I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

        So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
        https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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        #48

        @GossiTheDog yep thzx. Just wanna add: in order to get the key from MS, it leaves ztraces in the Ermittliungsakte/ papers...just checking on the HDD drive won't (as 2 same amounts)...the info is important!

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        • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

          I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

          So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
          https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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          wrote last edited by
          #49

          @GossiTheDog IT admins everywhere should have started exploring viable alternatives the second Candy Crush showed up in Windows Enterprise.

          If the FBI can obtain someone's Bitlocker keys, that means malicious actors can, too.

          There is no such things as a backdoor for only the good guys.

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          • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

            I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

            So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
            https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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            @GossiTheDog

            It's not a flaw. It's a feature. For authority and Microslop.

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            • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

              I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

              So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
              https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

              TanquistT This user is from outside of this forum
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              Tanquist
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              #51

              @GossiTheDog
              Maybe that's why our IT department didn't bother to require bitlocker encryption on storage devices I plug into my new PC (actually, I think it was just an oversight).
              Anyway it makes my job easier because I occasionally need to exchange data with really old applications on an unconnected XP laptop which can't run bitlocker.

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              • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                @GossiTheDog You know those video's with "Wait for it!"? This is the one. I know this not an option for everyone but I love the combination of Linux and LUKS file-systems. Oh and if you don't hit bootselect at power-on, my machines boot into a small and clean Windows. Good luck with that.

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                • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                  I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                  So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                  Rishab Yadav
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                  #53

                  @GossiTheDog

                  Lesson: Never trust cloud-based encryption systems from any company.

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                  • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                    I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                    So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                    https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                    #54

                    @GossiTheDog EVERY US corporation is an extension of the US government since the Patriot Act. Whatever the government says, they must comply, and they can't talk about it. According to the law.

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                    • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                      I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                      So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                      https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                      @GossiTheDog
                      At some point, I hope that the national security guys, the techbros, and everyone in between, will come to a final fucking realization that no matter how pure your thoughts and intentions, building backdoors or skeleton keys will ALWAYS eventually wind up in the wrong hands.

                      Like every time
                      Always

                      It is time these guys grew up and became adults

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                      • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                        I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                        So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

                        zaire the insane anarchistZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        zaire the insane anarchist
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                        #56

                        @GossiTheDog lol what point is there to the encryption then if it’s backdoored so cops can just ask daddy microslop for the keys

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                        • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                          I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                          So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                          https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                          @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social Windows charging people for a pro/enterprise license to encrypt more than the OS drive (while still uploading their keys to the cloud) is also just insane to me

                          For a long time I think you had to pay for a pro license to even encrypt your drives at all, but luckily they stopped doing that, instead you get to encrypt the OS drive for free and everything else is gonna cost you a few hundred extra dollars
                          💀

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                          • zaire the insane anarchistZ zaire the insane anarchist

                            @GossiTheDog lol what point is there to the encryption then if it’s backdoored so cops can just ask daddy microslop for the keys

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                            @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be marketing

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                            • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                              I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                              So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                              https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                              lea 🔜 Chaospott Sommerfest
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                              @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social i remember thinking "wow that doesnt seem secure" when i saw the button to download bitlocker keys on my microsoft account page ​​

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                              • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                                So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                                https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                                @GossiTheDog never trust a capitalist.

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                                • CyberFrogF CyberFrog

                                  @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social Windows charging people for a pro/enterprise license to encrypt more than the OS drive (while still uploading their keys to the cloud) is also just insane to me

                                  For a long time I think you had to pay for a pro license to even encrypt your drives at all, but luckily they stopped doing that, instead you get to encrypt the OS drive for free and everything else is gonna cost you a few hundred extra dollars
                                  💀

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                                  @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social oh also as a note to all the users who installed windows with a local system account instead of linking your microsoft account

                                  none of you have an encrypted OS drive, it just doesn't encrypt your drives by default if you do that because it can't back the keys up to MS cloud

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                                  • lunya :neocat_flag_plural::neobot_floof_devil:S lunya :neocat_flag_plural::neobot_floof_devil:

                                    @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be marketing

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                                    @sleepybisexual @GossiTheDog fair

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                                    • lea 🔜 Chaospott SommerfestL lea 🔜 Chaospott Sommerfest

                                      @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social i remember thinking "wow that doesnt seem secure" when i saw the button to download bitlocker keys on my microsoft account page ​​

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                                      oh my god

                                      CC: @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social
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                                      • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                        I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                                        So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                                        Anyone truly surprised? Microsoft has a history of building back doors into their products under the guise of customer service.

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                                        • Matthew LoxtonM Matthew Loxton

                                          @GossiTheDog
                                          At some point, I hope that the national security guys, the techbros, and everyone in between, will come to a final fucking realization that no matter how pure your thoughts and intentions, building backdoors or skeleton keys will ALWAYS eventually wind up in the wrong hands.

                                          Like every time
                                          Always

                                          It is time these guys grew up and became adults

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                                          Huntn00
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                                          @mloxton @GossiTheDog …and stop dreaming about being filthy rich, it’s not equitable nor sustainable.

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