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"I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

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  • Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊN Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

    "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

    #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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    @Natasha_Jay @wendynather the "making up plausible shit" machine once again made up plausible shit, continually surprising everyone

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    • Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊN Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

      "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

      #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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      @Natasha_Jay

      Source is here for anyone interested in it

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      • Greg BellF Greg Bell

        @Natasha_Jay @wendynather the "making up plausible shit" machine once again made up plausible shit, continually surprising everyone

        MacCruiskeenM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @ferrix @Natasha_Jay @wendynather "Making up plausible shit" is a human consultant's job! AI is going to replace us!

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        • Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊN Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

          "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

          #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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          @Natasha_Jay

          No one should be surprised.

          It is mathematically impossible to stop an LLM from β€œhallucinating” because β€œhallucinating” is what LLMs are doing 100% of the time.

          It’s only human beings who distinguish (ideally) between correct and incorrect synthetic text.

          And yet, it’s like forbidden candy to a child. Even well educated, thoughtful people so desperately want to believe that this tech β€œworks”

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          • MacCruiskeenM MacCruiskeen

            @ferrix @Natasha_Jay @wendynather "Making up plausible shit" is a human consultant's job! AI is going to replace us!

            Greg BellF This user is from outside of this forum
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            @maccruiskeen @Natasha_Jay @wendynather MUPSaaS

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            • Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊN Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

              "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

              #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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              @Natasha_Jay "To an artificial mind, all reality is virtual."

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              • Field Replaceable Unit0 Field Replaceable Unit

                @Natasha_Jay I suspect that one of the few applications where a heavily hallucinating LLM can outperform a human would be in replacing board members, C-suite executives, and their direct reports. I propose a longitudinal study with a control group of high level executives using real data, and experimental group using hallucinated, or maybe even totally random data filtered into plausible ranges, using executive compensation deltas as the metric.

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                @0x0ddc0ffee @Natasha_Jay

                Remember who funds Ai.
                https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2024/05/saudi-prince-alwaleed-bin-talal-invests-elon-musks-24b-ai-startup

                https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/13/trump-tech-execs-riyadh/

                forbes.com

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                Disaster Capitalists -- they want another bubble bursting that sends another generation of wealth upwards to the 1%

                Global financial crashes & mass dissatisfaction provides the makings for fascist movements & profitable imperialist wars of extraction.

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                Austerity is the midwife of fascism

                Richard Murphy on developing a fairer and sustainable economy

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                Just a moment...

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                What will it take to beat the far right?

                The far right feeds on economic despair and exclusion. Only policies that deliver security, dignity and belonging can starve it

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                • Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊN Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                  "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                  #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                  @Natasha_Jay

                  Hallucinating numbers, you say?

                  It must be learning from the current American administration..

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                  • Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊN Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                    "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                    #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                    @Natasha_Jay #BoycottAI

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                    • Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊN Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                      "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                      #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                      @Natasha_Jay someone is getting fired

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                      • Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊN Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                        "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                        #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                        @Natasha_Jay 😬

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                        • Dave RahardjaD Dave Rahardja

                          @Natasha_Jay This part in the original post is fantastic:

                          β€œThe worst part I raised concerns about needing validation in November and got told I was slowing down innovation.”

                          hxxps://www.reddit.com/r/analytics/comments/1r4dsq2/we_just_found_out_our_ai_has_been_making_up/

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                          @drahardja @Natasha_Jay I believe it’s supposed to be h*tt*ps

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                          • Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊN Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                            "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                            #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                            @Natasha_Jay It seems to me that AI tools have been released prematurely to generate revenue from the massive investments AI tech companies are making. This type of hallucination could cause serious damage to any business, organisation or person using it. Who is accountable in the end? Given the history of big tech's social media platforms and the harm theyare causing you can bet they'll accept no responsibility.

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                            • Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊN Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                              "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                              #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                              @Natasha_Jay

                              "... just inventing plausible sounding [answers]"

                              This shit is so tiring - that is literally all any AI is even *meant* to do. They are not even designed to give correct answers to questions, but just examples of what a plausible answer could sound like.

                              (edit: sorry, I know I'm likely preaching to the choir here, but it's just so fucking tiring seeing people surprised by this crap.)

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                              • Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊN Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                                "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                @Natasha_Jay Bwahahahahahaha

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                                • Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊN Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                                  "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                  #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                  @Natasha_Jay .. and you really want to blame the technology for this... If there was no process for checking the facts that were used , it is simply bad implementation, everyone knows you have to check for or do something against hallucinations with GenAI.

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                                  • Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊN Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                                    "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                    #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                    @Natasha_Jay

                                    Guess who is going to take the blame for this...

                                    #RollingDownHill
                                    🀯

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                                    • Jesse McClure :progress_pride:J Jesse McClure :progress_pride:

                                      @Natasha_Jay

                                      "... just inventing plausible sounding [answers]"

                                      This shit is so tiring - that is literally all any AI is even *meant* to do. They are not even designed to give correct answers to questions, but just examples of what a plausible answer could sound like.

                                      (edit: sorry, I know I'm likely preaching to the choir here, but it's just so fucking tiring seeing people surprised by this crap.)

                                      Hugs4friends β™ΎπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ˜·T This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @jmcclure Keep preachingπŸ˜‰ @Natasha_Jay

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                                      • BredrollB Bredroll

                                        @ZenHeathen @Natasha_Jay the thing is, there is no change-over "period" once you use this daily, your org begins lose its institutional memory

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                                        @Bredroll @ZenHeathen @Natasha_Jay And there will be further, probably unnoticed, changeover periods, when the technology less or more silently provider changes (or even the org changes provider, …) their services, e.g., the used model is changed.

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                                        • Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊN Natasha Jay πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                                          "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                          #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                          @Natasha_Jay

                                          So I asked the higher ups to double check this $11M investment they made to run the show in our department. Everything promised was made worse with zero improvements. We lost a lot of experience and money. Almost lost me too, but I'm a fixer and they are going to pay me a lot of overtime...

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