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1/ Since @JohannaMakesGames was curious, here is a thread on assorted "Underworlds" from German folklore.

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  • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

    16/ Lakes, too, could represent a form of Underworld - with unfathomable depths inhabited by strange spirits.

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    17/ One such lake - located on the Hoher Meißner mountain in Hesse - was said to be the home of Frau Holle - an incarnation of Hulda, a female goddess or great spirit whose footprint can be found everywhere in German-speaking lands.

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    • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

      16/ Lakes, too, could represent a form of Underworld - with unfathomable depths inhabited by strange spirits.

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      Tolkien's LOTR features such a lake, at the Western Gates of Moria.

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      "Out from the water a long sinuous tentacle had crawled; it was pale-green and luminous and wet. Its fingered end had hold of Frodo’s foot, and was dragging him into the water. Sam on his knees was now slashing at it with a knife.The arm let go of Frodo, and Sam pulled him away, crying out for...

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      • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

        17/ One such lake - located on the Hoher Meißner mountain in Hesse - was said to be the home of Frau Holle - an incarnation of Hulda, a female goddess or great spirit whose footprint can be found everywhere in German-speaking lands.

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        18 (FIN)/ I hope you have enjoyed this glimpse into assorted Realms Below from German folklore!

        If you want to support me in making more tales like these accessible to an international audience - by translating them into English, releasing them under a #CreativeCommons Zero license, and ultimately publishing them in books and on this wiki - then you can buy my books and subscribe to my Patreon campaign!

        (You knew that part was coming, right? 😉 )

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        • tuban_muzuruT tuban_muzuru

          @juergen_hubert

          Tolkien's LOTR features such a lake, at the Western Gates of Moria.

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          Watcher in the Water

          "Out from the water a long sinuous tentacle had crawled; it was pale-green and luminous and wet. Its fingered end had hold of Frodo’s foot, and was dragging him into the water. Sam on his knees was now slashing at it with a knife.The arm let go of Frodo, and Sam pulled him away, crying out for...

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          @tuban_muzuru

          It's a popular theme. I mean, people in earlier centuries didn't have access to either sonar or diving equipment - so any lake where you could not see the bottom was effectively bottomless.

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          • tuban_muzuruT tuban_muzuru

            @juergen_hubert

            These are great ! I used to read the original, unexpurgated Grimm's stories to my children. They always liked the most horrible stories the most.

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            @tuban_muzuru @juergen_hubert

            Another was
            https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Bechstein
            or
            https://www.wissens-blog.12hp.de/germanische-mythologie/
            or
            Nibelungen, König Laurins Rosengarten, etc.

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            • Fred_S_at (main)F Fred_S_at (main)

              @tuban_muzuru @juergen_hubert

              Another was
              https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Bechstein
              or
              https://www.wissens-blog.12hp.de/germanische-mythologie/
              or
              Nibelungen, König Laurins Rosengarten, etc.

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              @Fred_S_at @tuban_muzuru

              Ludwig Bechstein was a really prolific folklorist, and I have translated quite a few of his tales.

              https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Der_Sagenschatz_des_Frankenlandes
              https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Der_Sagenschatz_und_die_Sagenkreise_des_Th%C3%BCringerlandes_Erster_Theil
              https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Der_Sagenschatz_und_die_Sagenkreise_des_Th%C3%BCringerlandes_Vierter_Theil
              https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Th%C3%BCringer_Sagenbuch_Erster_Band
              https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Th%C3%BCringer_Sagenbuch_Zweiter_Band

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              • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                @Fred_S_at @tuban_muzuru

                Ludwig Bechstein was a really prolific folklorist, and I have translated quite a few of his tales.

                https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Der_Sagenschatz_des_Frankenlandes
                https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Der_Sagenschatz_und_die_Sagenkreise_des_Th%C3%BCringerlandes_Erster_Theil
                https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Der_Sagenschatz_und_die_Sagenkreise_des_Th%C3%BCringerlandes_Vierter_Theil
                https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Th%C3%BCringer_Sagenbuch_Erster_Band
                https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Th%C3%BCringer_Sagenbuch_Zweiter_Band

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                @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                Old books with fairy tales, legends, old stories
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                • Fred_S_at (main)F Fred_S_at (main)

                  @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                  Old books with fairy tales, legends, old stories
                  (1)

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                  @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                  Old books with fairy tales, legends, old stories
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                    @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                    Old books with fairy tales, legends, old stories
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                    @Fred_S_at @tuban_muzuru

                    I use this links list for my own research:

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                    Sagen – Wikisource

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                      @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                      Old books with fairy tales, legends, old stories
                      (2)

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                      @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                      One must not forget the German Romantic period, Ludwig II Otto Friedrich Wilhelm of Bavaria (Neuschwanstein), and his court composer Richard Wagner (best known work – Ring of the Nibelung)..

                      https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_II._(Bavaria).

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                        @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                        One must not forget the German Romantic period, Ludwig II Otto Friedrich Wilhelm of Bavaria (Neuschwanstein), and his court composer Richard Wagner (best known work – Ring of the Nibelung)..

                        https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_II._(Bavaria).

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                        Richard Wagner – Wikipedia

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                        (de.wikipedia.org)

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                        King Laurin's Rose Garden – this legend takes place in what is now South Tyrol.

                        https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nig_Laurins_Rosengarten
                        .
                        https://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/werkansicht?PPN=PPN729138968&PHYSID=PHYS_0007&DMDID=

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                        • Fred_S_at (main)F Fred_S_at (main)

                          @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                          King Laurin's Rose Garden – this legend takes place in what is now South Tyrol.

                          https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nig_Laurins_Rosengarten
                          .
                          https://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/werkansicht?PPN=PPN729138968&PHYSID=PHYS_0007&DMDID=

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                          @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                          An old legend from Vienna
                          Der Basilisk in der Schönlaterngasse
                          https://www.sagen.at/texte/sagen/oesterreich/wien/vonaltenhaeusern/basilisk.html
                          .
                          https://www.culturalatina.at/de/kultur/mythen-und-sagen/item/1849-der-basilisk-in-der-schoenlaterngasse
                          .
                          https://www.ganz-wien.at/lifestyle/mystery/der-raetselhafte-basilisk.html
                          .
                          https://austria-forum.org/af/Heimatlexikon/Basilisk
                          ..
                          Der Basilisk – Tödliches, schlangenhaftes Ungeheuer
                          https://www.mittelalter-leben.de/mythen-legenden/basilisk/
                          .

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                          • Fred_S_at (main)F Fred_S_at (main)

                            @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                            An old legend from Vienna
                            Der Basilisk in der Schönlaterngasse
                            https://www.sagen.at/texte/sagen/oesterreich/wien/vonaltenhaeusern/basilisk.html
                            .
                            https://www.culturalatina.at/de/kultur/mythen-und-sagen/item/1849-der-basilisk-in-der-schoenlaterngasse
                            .
                            https://www.ganz-wien.at/lifestyle/mystery/der-raetselhafte-basilisk.html
                            .
                            https://austria-forum.org/af/Heimatlexikon/Basilisk
                            ..
                            Der Basilisk – Tödliches, schlangenhaftes Ungeheuer
                            https://www.mittelalter-leben.de/mythen-legenden/basilisk/
                            .

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                            @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                            Just think of all the legends there are in the Weinviertel region of Lower Austria!
                            https://www.sagen.at/texte/sagen/oesterreich/niederoesterreich/weinviertel/sagen_noe_weinviertel.htm

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                              @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                              Just think of all the legends there are in the Weinviertel region of Lower Austria!
                              https://www.sagen.at/texte/sagen/oesterreich/niederoesterreich/weinviertel/sagen_noe_weinviertel.htm

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                              @Fred_S_at @tuban_muzuru

                              I haven't read any of the collections about Lower Austria yet, but they are on my list.

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                                @Fred_S_at @tuban_muzuru

                                I haven't read any of the collections about Lower Austria yet, but they are on my list.

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                                @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                                More about legends
                                https://www.sagen.at/texte/sagen/sagen.htm
                                .
                                https://www.sagen.at/doku/Haymon_tb/Schoenste_Sagen.html
                                .
                                https://www.sagen.at/doku/Innsbruck_Sagenbuch/Innsbrucker_Sagenbuch.html
                                .
                                https://www.sagen.at/doku/gullibuch/Gullibuch.html
                                .
                                sagen.at is a very interesting and comprehensive source. It goes beyond the German-speaking world.

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                                • Fred_S_at (main)F Fred_S_at (main)

                                  @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                                  More about legends
                                  https://www.sagen.at/texte/sagen/sagen.htm
                                  .
                                  https://www.sagen.at/doku/Haymon_tb/Schoenste_Sagen.html
                                  .
                                  https://www.sagen.at/doku/Innsbruck_Sagenbuch/Innsbrucker_Sagenbuch.html
                                  .
                                  https://www.sagen.at/doku/gullibuch/Gullibuch.html
                                  .
                                  sagen.at is a very interesting and comprehensive source. It goes beyond the German-speaking world.

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                                  @Fred_S_at @tuban_muzuru

                                  It is, and I have read it in the past.

                                  However, for copyright reasons I stick to digital scans of public domain works these days. I put my translations under a #CreativeCommons Zero license, but the legality of doing so is tricky if the copyright status of the source material is unclear.

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