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  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

    We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

    "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

    "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

    PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

    -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

    -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
    ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
    -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
    -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
    -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
    -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
    -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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    The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

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    Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

    The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
    must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

    Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

    Tristan Colgate-McFarlaneT This user is from outside of this forum
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    Tristan Colgate-McFarlane
    wrote last edited by
    #226

    @briankrebs I've been to Cuba, Vietnam and Lao, all certified authoritarian police states where a seemingly innocent question could be met by pinched lips, shaking head and fearful eyes.
    Not one asked for anything more than my passport
    So, thanks, but no thanks. Good luck with that economy. You'll need it.

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    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

      Link Preview Image
      The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

      Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

      favicon

      Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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      Gully1965
      wrote last edited by
      #227

      @briankrebs

      We have nothing to FEAR but fear itself.

      From the home of the brave to the land of the fearful.

      Put on your big boy trousers America and go forth boldly and do good.

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      • Corb_The_LesserC Corb_The_Lesser

        @briankrebs

        If the Trump regime makes up an email address or a phone number or whatever as an excuse to bar entry to someone, how can that person reasonably be expected to prove the contrary?

        Pieter Kuiper 🌍🇳🇱P This user is from outside of this forum
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        Pieter Kuiper 🌍🇳🇱
        wrote last edited by
        #228

        @Corb_The_Lesser @briankrebs Usually, no reasons are given for refusing a visa.

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        • AAKLA AAKL

          @BLTpizza @briankrebs That's right. The doofus who made this deal doesn't care about the implications: they are not his cross to bear. But what is the criteria that will be used? Who will be banned from entry? Who will be punished? Based on what? Gender? Immigration? Opinion? Are visitors seriously considering handing over their DNA and entire family, email, and social media history for a decade to the people who just murdered another civilian in cold blood?

          Colin McMillenC This user is from outside of this forum
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          Colin McMillen
          wrote last edited by
          #229

          @AAKL I'm sure a lot of apolitical, badly informed people would be ready to, sadly.
          @BLTpizza @briankrebs

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          • AAKLA AAKL

            @briankrebs FIFA's Word Cup tournaments in the U.S. need to be boycotted or cancelled. This puts the world at the mercy of these thugs.

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            Derek the DIY Guy
            wrote last edited by
            #230

            @AAKL @briankrebs
            FIFA is a corrupt bunch anyways.
            So the Worldcup should be boycotted for this alone.

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            • David Scott MoyerF David Scott Moyer

              @faraiwe @briankrebs I changed it and got this:

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              Bart Teeuwisse ❄️🇺🇦B This user is from outside of this forum
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              Bart Teeuwisse ❄️🇺🇦
              wrote last edited by
              #231

              @farbel @faraiwe @briankrebs Even with a valid email address DHS doesn't want to accept my feedback.

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              • Curioso 🍉 🇺🇦 (jgg)J Curioso 🍉 🇺🇦 (jgg)

                @AAKL @BLTpizza @briankrebs

                If the US doesn't want us to visit anymore, we won't visit. TV is nice for watching football.
                If the US doesn't want to buy from us, we won't buy from them. Sorry, not sorry, Amazon.
                It's that simple.

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                AAKL
                wrote last edited by
                #232

                @jgg @BLTpizza @briankrebs Six days ago: US tourism sector faces $12.5 billion loss as visa restrictions expand https://www.traveldailymedia.com/us-tourism-sector-faces-12-5-billion-loss-as-visa-restrictions-expand/

                The World Cup will bring in an estimated $30 billion to rescue the U.S. economy. Something to think about.

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                • Pieter Kuiper 🌍🇳🇱P Pieter Kuiper 🌍🇳🇱

                  @Corb_The_Lesser @briankrebs Usually, no reasons are given for refusing a visa.

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                  Corb_The_Lesser
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                  #233

                  @pietkuip @briankrebs Right, poorly phrased. But, easy to allege that someone who was admitted omitted required information.

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                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                    We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                    "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                    "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                    PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                    -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                    -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                    ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                    -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                    -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                    -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                    -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                    -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                    Link Preview Image
                    The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                    Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                    favicon

                    Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                    The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                    must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                    Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                    Anton
                    wrote last edited by
                    #234

                    @briankrebs well, Qatar forced travelers to install their government issued app for COVID protection during the 2022 FIFA World cup... Qatar is not the USA, but perhaps that's where they got the idea...

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                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                      Link Preview Image
                      The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                      Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                      favicon

                      Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                      jmjm
                      wrote last edited by
                      #235

                      @briankrebs I wonder how Europe will choose to implement reciprocity? Maybe an anal probe?

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                      • Bart Teeuwisse ❄️🇺🇦B Bart Teeuwisse ❄️🇺🇦

                        @farbel @faraiwe @briankrebs Even with a valid email address DHS doesn't want to accept my feedback.

                        David Scott MoyerF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        David Scott Moyer
                        wrote last edited by
                        #236

                        @bartt @faraiwe @briankrebs exactly. It's bullshit like everything else they do and say.

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                        • F Flounder

                          @briankrebs fash? Pass.

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                          niallor
                          wrote last edited by
                          #237

                          @fl0und3r @briankrebs fascist, I guess

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                          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                            We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                            "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                            "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                            PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                            -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                            -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                            ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                            -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                            -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                            -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                            -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                            -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                            Link Preview Image
                            The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                            Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                            favicon

                            Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                            The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                            must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                            Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                            Neil Moffatt
                            wrote last edited by
                            #238

                            @briankrebs How to destroy the tourist industry very fast ... all this insanity going on unchecked it seems ... something will blow up very soon

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                            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                              We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                              "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                              "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                              PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                              -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                              -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                              ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                              -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                              -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                              -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                              -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                              -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                              Link Preview Image
                              The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                              Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                              favicon

                              Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                              The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                              must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                              Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                              Séverin Lemaignan
                              wrote last edited by
                              #239

                              @briankrebs ...I don't know when will be the next time I travel to the US... 🙄

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                              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                Link Preview Image
                                The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                favicon

                                Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                Ezra Freelove
                                wrote last edited by
                                #240

                                @briankrebs not even sure of all the fediverse accounts I have used, much less all social media. I played with dozens when Elon bought Twitter.

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                                • Rob BosR Rob Bos

                                  @ericphelps
                                  Tagged email addresses accomplish much the same thing!

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                                  Eric Phelps
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #241

                                  @rbos I pre-generated a thousand email addresses, registered them with my email provider, and loaded them into my password manager. They're ready to go for new accounts with a simple rename.

                                  The whole "tagging" thing with Gmail is one of those theoretical things I know about but have never done.

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #242

                                    @Npars01 @briankrebs
                                    My reflex was Peter Thiel, but yes, amongst the bunch of them.

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                                    • Otmar LendlO Otmar Lendl

                                      @briankrebs just cancel the Olympics and the FIFA World Cup as the next step.

                                      I will not travel to the US in 2026 just as sure as I would not recommend time travel to Germany 1936 to a jew.

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                                      #243

                                      @otmar @briankrebs

                                      Somehow the Olympics and FIFA like dictators...

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                                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                        Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

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                                        Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #244

                                        @briankrebs
                                        'back in the ussr' beatles

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                                        • AnneHA AnneH

                                          @briankrebs In EU countries, it wouldn't be legal to give out family members' details if they didn't consent I think.

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                                          KevinOnEarth
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                                          @annehargreaves @briankrebs
                                          They (& every other country) should make an exception for Americans & apply the same rules to all American travellers... to the Rest of the World.

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