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AI Added โ€˜Basically Zeroโ€™ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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  • nixCraft ๐ŸงN nixCraft ๐Ÿง

    AI Added โ€˜Basically Zeroโ€™ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

    So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

    * Getting staff fired
    * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artistsโ€™ work
    * Environment impact
    * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
    * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
    * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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    @nixCraft what a coincidence

    that's what Sam Altman's husband scores him in bed out of ten too

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    • nixCraft ๐ŸงN nixCraft ๐Ÿง

      AI Added โ€˜Basically Zeroโ€™ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

      So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

      * Getting staff fired
      * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artistsโ€™ work
      * Environment impact
      * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
      * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
      * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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      Joeheadycus
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      #12

      @nixCraft how is AI simultaneously producing nothing of value and also taking jobs, in your mind? How can it steal (and therefore profit from) artists work while also being incapable of production? Workers and artists have absolutely nothing to worry about because AI doesnโ€™t work, right?

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      • nixCraft ๐ŸงN nixCraft ๐Ÿง

        AI Added โ€˜Basically Zeroโ€™ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

        So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

        * Getting staff fired
        * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artistsโ€™ work
        * Environment impact
        * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
        * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
        * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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        #13

        @nixCraft isn't it also a big part of the economy? So it's stolen resources from everywhere else, like cancer?

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        • nixCraft ๐ŸงN nixCraft ๐Ÿง

          AI Added โ€˜Basically Zeroโ€™ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

          So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

          * Getting staff fired
          * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artistsโ€™ work
          * Environment impact
          * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
          * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
          * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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          @nixCraft As a tech enthusiast this is one of the worst technologies ever existed, I literally became an AI atheist so to speak

          - Needs to steal data to work
          - It consumes a lot of resources
          - Fucks up the RAM prices, so you can no longer build a PC even if you don't use AI

          And yeah, it may have good uses, like fighting cancer or stuff like that, but it's philosophy and core functionalities still fucking shit. I csm only see negative shit coming out of it so #FuckAI

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          • nixCraft ๐ŸงN nixCraft ๐Ÿง

            AI Added โ€˜Basically Zeroโ€™ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

            So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

            * Getting staff fired
            * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artistsโ€™ work
            * Environment impact
            * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
            * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
            * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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            @nixCraft

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            • MicdanM Micdan

              @nixCraft As a tech enthusiast this is one of the worst technologies ever existed, I literally became an AI atheist so to speak

              - Needs to steal data to work
              - It consumes a lot of resources
              - Fucks up the RAM prices, so you can no longer build a PC even if you don't use AI

              And yeah, it may have good uses, like fighting cancer or stuff like that, but it's philosophy and core functionalities still fucking shit. I csm only see negative shit coming out of it so #FuckAI

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              @micdan

              > And yeah, it may have good uses, like fighting cancer or stuff like that,

              Not, no, it doesn't' fight cancersโ€ฆ research doโ€ฆ

              What microshit, google, crapbook, altman, musk and all the technofascists sell, are LLMs. LLMs just generate bullshit, thus called "generative AI". It has absolutely nothing to do with field specific machine learning thats might be used in health research

              LLMs are only useful for fascists to make disinformation and FUDโ€ฆ Absolutely 0 "good uses"

              @nixCraft

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              • Florian WeberF Florian Weber

                @nixCraft And if you don't trust Goldman Sachs, maybe you believe 6000 executives from the US, UK, Germany and Australia a little bit more. From the study:

                > "Third, the impact of AI on firm employment and productivity has been small so far. On average, more than 90% of business managers across the four countries estimate no impact of AI on their employment over the past three years. 89% report no impact of AI on their labor productivity over the last three years."

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                Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on employment or productivityโ€”and it has economists resurrecting a paradox from 40 years ago | Fortune

                In the 1980s, economist Robert Solow made an observation that reminded economists of todayโ€™s AI boom: โ€œYou can see the computer age everywhere but in the productivity statistics.โ€

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                @fnwbr Of course they wouldn't admit this shit actually had BIG impact of AI on heir employmentโ€ฆ They used as an excuse to fire people massively, expecting their profit to skyrocket "because the AI will do their job faster"โ€ฆ Fucking clowns

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                • Florian WeberF Florian Weber

                  @nixCraft And if you don't trust Goldman Sachs, maybe you believe 6000 executives from the US, UK, Germany and Australia a little bit more. From the study:

                  > "Third, the impact of AI on firm employment and productivity has been small so far. On average, more than 90% of business managers across the four countries estimate no impact of AI on their employment over the past three years. 89% report no impact of AI on their labor productivity over the last three years."

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                  Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on employment or productivityโ€”and it has economists resurrecting a paradox from 40 years ago | Fortune

                  In the 1980s, economist Robert Solow made an observation that reminded economists of todayโ€™s AI boom: โ€œYou can see the computer age everywhere but in the productivity statistics.โ€

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                  @fnwbr @nixCraft Although other parts of the article quote analysts being cautiously positive about its impact on productivity in the most recent quarter and the general thrust seems to be that significant productivity gains may be more in the longer rather than shorter term. Iโ€™m not a lover of AI, but that is what the Fortune article is saying.

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                  • scotty86 ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธS scotty86 ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ

                    @nixCraft Big Tech LLMs maybe. But "AI" is waaaay more than this mainstream hype chatbots.

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                    @scotty86 @nixCraft As an example of machine learning being useful, see the following article, which mentions how machine learning has reduced the computational resources needed for some tasks.

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                    Machine learning takes starring role in exploring the universe | Eberly College of Science

                    Penn State astronomers useย machine learning to vastly improve astronomical analyses.

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                    • nixCraft ๐ŸงN nixCraft ๐Ÿง

                      AI Added โ€˜Basically Zeroโ€™ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

                      So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

                      * Getting staff fired
                      * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artistsโ€™ work
                      * Environment impact
                      * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
                      * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
                      * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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                      Kevin Russell
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                      @nixCraft

                      Shyte

                      META AI executive demonstrating AI safety, interrupted her demonstration, to beg her AI to not delete, to stop deleting, her actual own emails.

                      To no avail.

                      #ai

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                      • Kevin RussellK Kevin Russell

                        @nixCraft

                        Shyte

                        META AI executive demonstrating AI safety, interrupted her demonstration, to beg her AI to not delete, to stop deleting, her actual own emails.

                        To no avail.

                        #ai

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                        @kevinrns @nixCraft Bwahahahaha, didn't see that one.

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                        • AI6YR BenA AI6YR Ben

                          @kevinrns @nixCraft Bwahahahaha, didn't see that one.

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                          @ai6yr @nixCraft

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                          Meta's safety director handed OpenClaw AI agents the keys to her emails

                          A Meta executive reveals that OpenClaw's AI agent wreaked havoc on her inbox before she shut it down by killing all the processes on the host.

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                          • J Joeheadycus

                            @nixCraft how is AI simultaneously producing nothing of value and also taking jobs, in your mind? How can it steal (and therefore profit from) artists work while also being incapable of production? Workers and artists have absolutely nothing to worry about because AI doesnโ€™t work, right?

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                            @Joeheadycus @nixCraft how can it steal? They only exist because of theft. Doesn't mean it produces art. This is not difficult

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                            • AI6YR BenA AI6YR Ben

                              @kevinrns @nixCraft Bwahahahaha, didn't see that one.

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                              @ai6yr @nixCraft

                              Just shyte.

                              "Google's AI coding assistant deletes user's entire ๐Ÿ˜ง drive, and apologies won't bring back the data"

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                              Google's AI coding helper erroneously erased a user's entire drive

                              Do you trust your data in the hands of AI?

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                              • Kevin RussellK Kevin Russell

                                @ai6yr @nixCraft

                                Just shyte.

                                "Google's AI coding assistant deletes user's entire ๐Ÿ˜ง drive, and apologies won't bring back the data"

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                                Google's AI coding helper erroneously erased a user's entire drive

                                Do you trust your data in the hands of AI?

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                                @kevinrns @nixCraft LOL

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                                • nixCraft ๐ŸงN nixCraft ๐Ÿง

                                  AI Added โ€˜Basically Zeroโ€™ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

                                  So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

                                  * Getting staff fired
                                  * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artistsโ€™ work
                                  * Environment impact
                                  * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
                                  * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
                                  * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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                                  @nixCraft

                                  I'd even say they drove the US into more debt, and robbed millions of people of their livelihoods and even their savings.

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                                  • Kevin RussellK Kevin Russell

                                    @ai6yr @nixCraft

                                    Just shyte.

                                    "Google's AI coding assistant deletes user's entire ๐Ÿ˜ง drive, and apologies won't bring back the data"

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                                    Google's AI coding helper erroneously erased a user's entire drive

                                    Do you trust your data in the hands of AI?

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                                    @kevinrns @ai6yr nixCraft ๐Ÿง we are heading for another Carrington Event but this time itโ€™s software

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                                    • nixCraft ๐ŸงN nixCraft ๐Ÿง

                                      AI Added โ€˜Basically Zeroโ€™ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

                                      So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

                                      * Getting staff fired
                                      * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artistsโ€™ work
                                      * Environment impact
                                      * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
                                      * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
                                      * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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                                      Zล‚o To ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ แถ แต‰แตˆโฑแต›แต‰สณหขแต‰ แตƒแตˆแตโฑโฟM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Zล‚o To ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ แถ แต‰แตˆโฑแต›แต‰สณหขแต‰ แตƒแตˆแตโฑโฟ
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                                      @nixCraft getting staff fired is desirable from a shareholder's perspective

                                      unless of course the company has to hire the people back

                                      than again, rates might be lower, because, you know, AI-related unemployment, so still a win.

                                      This is of course sarcastic, because in the end, unemployed don't buy your product

                                      [edited a typo]

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                                      • nixCraft ๐ŸงN nixCraft ๐Ÿง

                                        AI Added โ€˜Basically Zeroโ€™ to US Economic Growth Last Year, Goldman Sachs Says https://gizmodo.com/ai-added-basically-zero-to-us-economic-growth-last-year-goldman-sachs-says-2000725380 ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

                                        So far AI has done more damage than adding any true value to productivty unless you consider the following as plus points:

                                        * Getting staff fired
                                        * Stealing journalist, book authors, or artistsโ€™ work
                                        * Environment impact
                                        * Hallucinations that caused harm and loss of life
                                        * Creating undressing images of minors and woman
                                        * The list list endless and you have to be psychopaths to like this

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                                        @nixCraft And they consumed all of the RAM and storage media in a coordinated action to force us into cloud storage and compute.

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                                        • Bill ZaumenB Bill Zaumen

                                          @scotty86 @nixCraft As an example of machine learning being useful, see the following article, which mentions how machine learning has reduced the computational resources needed for some tasks.

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                                          Machine learning takes starring role in exploring the universe | Eberly College of Science

                                          Penn State astronomers useย machine learning to vastly improve astronomical analyses.

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                                          (science.psu.edu)

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                                          @bzdev Astronomy is an excellent example. ๐Ÿ‘
                                          There are several others - protein folding, climate modeling, particle physics, medical imaging....

                                          I would welcome it if the media differentiated between "AI" and conventional chatbots. @nixCraft

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