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  • Trammell HudsonT Trammell Hudson

    @cstross this is still ok, right?

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    @th @cstross

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    • Elaine CoatesE Elaine Coates

      @cstross So here’s what I don’t understand. If I search “How to wire a UK plug” and ignore the AI, the first handful of sites I checked all have correct wiring diagrams. There must be hundreds of correct diagrams online. So if the AI is basing its answers on what it finds, why is it getting this wrong? It should be easier to get it right than wrong !

      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #187

      @elaine1helen AIs are *generative* and they're designed to generate an answer shaped object, not provide an *actual* answer.

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      • Trammell HudsonT Trammell Hudson

        @cstross this is still ok, right?

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        @th @cstross The hidden marvels of BS1363!

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        • Trammell HudsonT Trammell Hudson

          @cstross this is still ok, right?

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          @th @cstross well in terms of electrical connections this is how many double insulated/unearthed appliances (such as phone chargers) already do it in the UK, except they hide the lack of connection of the earth prong inside a regular UK plug or 2-pin adapter.
          Still I'd rather not do it as shown.

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          • Erik JonkerE Erik Jonker

            @cstross I am fully aware of all it's limitations , there is an awful lot of AI bullshit around, but actually also a considerable amount of useful applications

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            #190

            @ErikJonker @cstross *its

            And *it's* easy to identify the ai techbro dickbag shills.

            There is no good from LLMs, the evil they wrought is overwhelmingly superior to any hurrr-useful trivial bullshit.

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            • Trammell HudsonT Trammell Hudson

              @cstross this is still ok, right?

              Josh :everything_bagel:J This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #191

              @th @cstross I mean, I have a ‘universal’ travel adapter that literally just provides a little rectangular plastic pin to insert in the ground slot of a type g socket to open the shutters for the two other pins.

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                Notes for Americans:

                1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                #192

                @cstross aha, that's how the electrician learned to wire up this socket then.

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                • RolloTreadwayR RolloTreadway

                  @cstross @zakalwe There's not much that's good about the UK, but our plugs are exceptional.

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                  @RolloTreadway @cstross @zakalwe
                  UK plugs and outlets are brilliant. A power switch — ON THE OUTLET! I love them.

                  US plugs: Eh, maybe it'll stay in if I bend the prongs a bit ...

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                  • Albert HickeyW Albert Hickey

                    @cstross

                    Copilot just now with prompt.
                    show me a picture to explain how to wire a UK plug

                    Interested in the Earth being a 4th pin and the Earth pin having a live (coloured) wire going to it.
                    Also, a screw labelled as LIVE is concerning.

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                    #194

                    @winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.

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                    • DarrenD Darren

                      @winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.

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                      #195

                      @DJDarren @cstross @winkleink Looks perfectly fine to me.

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                      • DarrenD Darren

                        @winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.

                        Josh :everything_bagel:J This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Josh :everything_bagel:
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                        #196

                        @DJDarren @winkleink @cstross at least this one won’t burn your house down?

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                        • Josh :everything_bagel:J Josh :everything_bagel:

                          @DJDarren @winkleink @cstross at least this one won’t burn your house down?

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                          Phosphenes
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                          @josh0 @DJDarren @winkleink @cstross

                          Yeah that fuse will last about 0.001 seconds. Safe! 👍

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                          • DarrenD Darren

                            @winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.

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                            @DJDarren @winkleink @cstross I was going to say that at least that fuse blew when I just looked at that diagram, but on second thought, that's impossible.

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                              Notes for Americans:

                              1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                              2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                              3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                              Jonathan TJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote last edited by
                              #199

                              @cstross An observation that if an appliance did come with a pre-wired plug (nb not moulded ones), that didn't mean they were safe. First thing I learnt to do was check the wiring. Yikes in so many cases.

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                @dresstokilt I'm talking about the UK. Where EVERYTHING runs on 230v and nothing came with a plug prior to 1992. Read for context!

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                                @cstross ooooh thought you were talking about the US. I did know that about the UK.

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                                • DarrenD Darren

                                  @winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.

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                                  @DJDarren @winkleink @cstross On the contrary. I think he should be the *only* person required to use these instructions to wire up a plug.

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                                  • Trammell HudsonT Trammell Hudson

                                    @cstross this is still ok, right?

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                                    #202

                                    @th @cstross This made me quickly move my hands away from the phone. It still makes me uncomfortable just looking at it. Excellent!

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                                    • DarrenD Darren

                                      @winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.

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                                      @DJDarren
                                      LOL looking at the picture with WTF on my face, and after while read that it's AI genera^W hallucinated. 😄

                                      @winkleink @cstross

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                                      • James 🌈💜S James 🌈💜

                                        @oddhack @cstross

                                        Don't worry, your bank will do it for you.

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                                        @shaknais @oddhack @cstross

                                        I have nothing but:

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                          Notes for Americans:

                                          1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                          2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                          3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                          Jon_AlperJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Jon_Alper
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                                          #205

                                          @cstross Oddly, you might live. That drawing was SO %$&*ed up that it appeared to have a whole extra pin! 🙈

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