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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running.

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  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

    We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

    "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

    "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

    PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

    -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

    -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
    ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
    -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
    -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
    -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
    -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
    -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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    The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

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    Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

    The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
    must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

    Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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    wrote last edited by
    #163

    @briankrebs that's a lot more invasive than the submissions I've done for security clearances.

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    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

      I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)

      "Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nation’s economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the country’s services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the country’s GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."

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      secid 🇩🇪
      wrote last edited by
      #164

      @briankrebs ... it makes a lot of sence. If you add knowledge to "it promotes cultural exchange and understanding" you will immediately see the imminent danger of tourism. In contact with tourists many more US-Americans might understand ....

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      • Randall LeeB Randall Lee

        @AAKL @briankrebs If the German football federation decides to either boycott the WC entirely or boycott matches in the US the rest of Europe will do the same. Mexico and Canada can handle the extra matches and tourists. FIFA can adjust quickly to cut the US out. The US matches will have low ranked teams playing in near empty stadiums.

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        wrote last edited by
        #165

        @BLTpizza @AAKL @briankrebs The US is currently in a civil war. It is a very dangerous and lawless place. For the safety of the athletes, their families and fans. All international sport must be moved out!

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        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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          The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

          Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

          favicon

          Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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          aurel
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          #166

          @briankrebs où peut on envoyer des commentaires?
          Je pense que ce type de collecte d'informations nuit tout simplement à la confiance des immigrants envers l'Etat Américain et risque de nuire indirectement à l'économie, car c'est bien connu "'rétablissez la confiance, et l'intendance suivra" non?

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          • Shiitake ToastS Shiitake Toast

            @briankrebs I wish people understood how important the Federal Register is to how law is made. The government has to consider comments and if they fail to consider them seriously you can sue to block a regulation. The more people who comment with serious objections to a rule, the harder it is for the government to implement that rule. It’s an under appreciated avenue for direct democracy and direct action. If there’s an issue you care about, you can follow that on the FR

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            ShadSterling
            wrote last edited by
            #167

            @ShiitakeToast @briankrebs how can we submit comments on this proposal?

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            • Ulrik Nyman ⬡U This user is from outside of this forum
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              #168

              @AlexanderVI @dann @briankrebs does not matter.

              Boycott the whole thing.

              Boycott everything that the USA touches.

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              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                Link Preview Image
                The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                favicon

                Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                wrote last edited by
                #169

                @briankrebs It's everything tin hat conservatives have been railing about my whole life, but now that it's here they're on board because they're the ones implementing it

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                • [object Object]G [object Object]

                  @briankrebs It's everything tin hat conservatives have been railing about my whole life, but now that it's here they're on board because they're the ones implementing it

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #170

                  @gneilyo @briankrebs and they think it will only apply to foreigners, and/or that they themselves have nothing to hide

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                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                    We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                    "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                    "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                    PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                    -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                    -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                    ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                    -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                    -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                    -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                    -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                    -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                    Link Preview Image
                    The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                    Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                    favicon

                    Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                    The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                    must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                    Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                    #171

                    @briankrebs this is great. Why would you travel there anyway.

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                    • Kyle Memoir 🍉F Kyle Memoir 🍉

                      @SecondUniverse @briankrebs

                      10 visit max (they'll sample each time to avoid DNA spoofing!)

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #172

                      @f800gecko @SecondUniverse @briankrebs That made me laugh.

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                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                        Link Preview Image
                        The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                        Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                        favicon

                        Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #173

                        @briankrebs
                        why dont they just take the social media Posts from Suck, Musk and Ellison et al?

                        one option might they know it all already but want challenge ones compliance...

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                        • Dueark privatD Dueark privat

                          @briankrebs
                          sounds familiar to me...
                          have seen similar in another palantir country 😳😳

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #174

                          @dueark @briankrebs where?

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                          • 64 Islands Aroha CooperativeA 64 Islands Aroha Cooperative

                            @gneilyo @briankrebs and they think it will only apply to foreigners, and/or that they themselves have nothing to hide

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                            #175

                            @airshipper @briankrebs Exactly. The musical chairs never stops under fascism.

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                            • John Francis 🦫🇨🇦🍁💪⬆️J John Francis 🦫🇨🇦🍁💪⬆️

                              @briankrebs that's a lot more invasive than the submissions I've done for security clearances.

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                              #176

                              @johnefrancis @briankrebs also almost impossible to comply with (family phone numbers etc) so along with feeds into the surveillance state it’ll just be cover for arbitrary detention.

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                              • FZ F

                                @Wyatt_H_Knott
                                They need to make sure you're pure enough
                                @briankrebs

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                                wrote last edited by
                                #177

                                @zm
                                and then they find out we're all from africa...
                                @Wyatt_H_Knott @briankrebs

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                                • Eric GoodwinA Eric Goodwin

                                  @johnefrancis @briankrebs also almost impossible to comply with (family phone numbers etc) so along with feeds into the surveillance state it’ll just be cover for arbitrary detention.

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                                  Stéphanie
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #178

                                  @auxonic @johnefrancis @briankrebs I have a secret security clearance and the process was SO much less invasive than that. So ridiculous

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                                  • Lazy B0yL Lazy B0y

                                    @zm
                                    and then they find out we're all from africa...
                                    @Wyatt_H_Knott @briankrebs

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                                    @lazyb0y @zm @briankrebs https://www.waltermosley.com/there-is-no-white-race/

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                                    • Lazy B0yL Lazy B0y

                                      @zm
                                      and then they find out we're all from africa...
                                      @Wyatt_H_Knott @briankrebs

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                                      #180

                                      @lazyb0y @zm @Wyatt_H_Knott @briankrebs They’re not, tho. They think they’re from some secret white center-of-the-earth thingy (deep, bizarre nazi stuff, apparently popular again) /s

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                                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                        Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                        favicon

                                        Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #181

                                        @briankrebs it doesn't surprise me how the US government is acting with the border control - I think, I will attend "virtual" when attending conferences... and I think I will look for conferences and it-sec-organizations outside the US. Also, the current direction of policies does add a very big question mark to all US it-sec-products. Products from China and Russia do now provide similar trust in regards of state actor influence

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                                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                          Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                          favicon

                                          Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                          wrote last edited by
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                                          @briankrebs what an excellent way to kill the tourism industry.

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