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  • L LadyButterfly

    I used to make this recipe ten years ago in a different oven and the cookies were incredible. They were just like millies cookies.

    Ive made 2 batches last week one turned out cakey and one turned out part raw. Today I’ve done 6 cookies baked one at a time with various timings and I can’t get it right! If they’re not cakey they’re raw.

    Does 180C mean in a fan or non fan oven? And I’m using dark brown sugar does that change things?

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    amazingawesomator@lemmy.world
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    too cakey == too much flour. too thin == not enough flour. pull the cookies 1 minute before their full time on your first run because cookies are better slightly under than slightly over.

    tell the doneness by looking at the bottom of the cookie - that is the color that will tell uou the most about their doneness ❤

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    • A amazingawesomator@lemmy.world

      too cakey == too much flour. too thin == not enough flour. pull the cookies 1 minute before their full time on your first run because cookies are better slightly under than slightly over.

      tell the doneness by looking at the bottom of the cookie - that is the color that will tell uou the most about their doneness ❤

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      LadyButterfly
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      #10

      Great tips! how much should I reduce the flour by?

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      • B b34k@lemmy.world

        A difference of 25 F is about 14 C (5/9ths). Also, most convection ovens I’ve used have 2 modes, bake and roast. With bake they auto lower the oven 25 F from the temp you set to account for this. Roast just uses the set temp.

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        hdsrob@lemmy.world
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        #11

        Yep, bad conversion on my side … corrected.

        I’ve had both … our current is a convection oven / microwave combo, that has no option to disable the fan (we also have a regular oven). I think our last oven that had a convection feature also had an option to turn the fan on separately, but it’s been a long time.

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        • L LadyButterfly

          Great tips! how much should I reduce the flour by?

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          snooggums
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          Not enough information for an exact answer, but if you have plenty of ingredients I would go 5% less and keep everything else the same. If it isn’t enough then keep lowering it until you hit the right balance and if you overshoot then bump it up halfway to your prior one and and kind of work your way to the right spot from there.

          Definitely write down everything you try each time if you aren’t already as when you get it right that will be your recipe from here on out.

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            Not enough information for an exact answer, but if you have plenty of ingredients I would go 5% less and keep everything else the same. If it isn’t enough then keep lowering it until you hit the right balance and if you overshoot then bump it up halfway to your prior one and and kind of work your way to the right spot from there.

            Definitely write down everything you try each time if you aren’t already as when you get it right that will be your recipe from here on out.

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            LadyButterfly
            wrote on last edited by
            #13

            Nice one thanks. I’m using plain flour with baking powder should I reduce the baking powder?

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            • H hdsrob@lemmy.world

              Dark brown sugar should only change the flavor a bit, since it just has more molasses added to the sugar (but I guess it could change the texture a bit in a small batch).

              The recipe probably assumes a regular oven, not a a fan (convection) oven. I’m not sure about yours, but our convection oven has instructions for lowering the temperature from what the recipe calls for (25 degrees lower F, so about 4 degrees 14 degrees C) if using the fan.

              Also, if you don’t already have one, you might want to get an oven thermometer. I’ve seen a lot of ovens that don’t actually cook at the temperature they are set to on the knob, so having a thermometer in the oven that you can check and make adjustments until the oven temperature is where you need it to be can help a lot.

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              evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world
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              Technically, dark brown sugar will be more acidic, and will therefore require more baking soda to balance it out, though I think that would have minor effects

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              • L LadyButterfly

                Nice one thanks. I’m using plain flour with baking powder should I reduce the baking powder?

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                snooggums
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                I would recommend changing one thing at a time and consulting one of the images that show what causes the different issues to see what else to adjust.

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                • L LadyButterfly

                  Nice one thanks. I’m using plain flour with baking powder should I reduce the baking powder?

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                  amazingawesomator@lemmy.world
                  wrote on last edited by amazingawesomator@lemmy.world
                  #16

                  oh, saw another problem here. use baking soda for regular choco chip cookies.

                  baking soda == baking powder without the rising element. the acidity of the cookie will bring less fluffiness/cakiness than the full rise from powder. for a reference on amount (sorry, i am american so i use cheeseburger measurements…), i use 2-1/3c flour to 1 teaspoon baking soda; not cut with baking powder

                  edit: i think i said that wrong. baking soda has the rising agent, but not the activator for the rising agent. baking powder has the activator.

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                  • L LadyButterfly

                    I used to make this recipe ten years ago in a different oven and the cookies were incredible. They were just like millies cookies.

                    Ive made 2 batches last week one turned out cakey and one turned out part raw. Today I’ve done 6 cookies baked one at a time with various timings and I can’t get it right! If they’re not cakey they’re raw.

                    Does 180C mean in a fan or non fan oven? And I’m using dark brown sugar does that change things?

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                    jordanlund@lemmy.world
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                    #17

                    The self-raising flour could be the problem if you’re using just normal flour.

                    If all you have is normal flour, you need to add to it:

                    1 cup (120g) King Arthur Unbleached All-Purpose Flour

                    1 1/2 teaspoons baking powder

                    1/4 teaspoon table salt

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                    • A amazingawesomator@lemmy.world

                      oh, saw another problem here. use baking soda for regular choco chip cookies.

                      baking soda == baking powder without the rising element. the acidity of the cookie will bring less fluffiness/cakiness than the full rise from powder. for a reference on amount (sorry, i am american so i use cheeseburger measurements…), i use 2-1/3c flour to 1 teaspoon baking soda; not cut with baking powder

                      edit: i think i said that wrong. baking soda has the rising agent, but not the activator for the rising agent. baking powder has the activator.

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                      LadyButterfly
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                      #18

                      Ahhhhhhh that makes sense thanks so much! How much should I add if I’m using plain flour?

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                      • L LadyButterfly

                        Ahhhhhhh that makes sense thanks so much! How much should I add if I’m using plain flour?

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                        amazingawesomator@lemmy.world
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                        #19

                        i think i am using the same; i use what is called “all-purpose flour” in usa

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                        • L LadyButterfly

                          Ahhhhhhh that makes sense thanks so much! How much should I add if I’m using plain flour?

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                          amazingawesomator@lemmy.world
                          wrote on last edited by amazingawesomator@lemmy.world
                          #20

                          might as well just hand it over, lol. this is my ingredient list:

                          1 Cup (2 sticks) Butter
                          2-1/3 Cup Flour
                          1 Teaspoon Salt
                          1 Teaspoon Baking Soda
                          1/4 Cup Sugar
                          1 Cup Brown Sugar
                          2 Eggs
                          2 Tablespoons Milk
                          1-1/2 Teaspoons Vanilla
                          1 Bag (~11-12oz) of Choco Chips (substitutable)

                          edit: note: 2 eggs are for 1 whole egg + 1 egg yolk

                          edit 2: my steps… might as well…

                          #Melt Butter

                          melt the butter and let it cool slightly

                          #Mix 1

                          Mix together flour, salt, baking soda

                          putting onto paper plate after mixing works well here…

                          #Mix 2

                          In mixer, add butter, sugar, & brown sugar, and beat for 2 minutes

                          #Mix 3

                          Mix together 1 egg, 1 egg yolk, milk, vanilla

                          #Mix 3 & 2

                          Mix 3 into mix 2 on slow/stir

                          #Mix Plate

                          Slowly pour Mix 1 into main mix, make sure it fully mixes

                          #Add Chips

                          Pour in your chocolate (or whatever type) chips; mix on slow/stir until combined, then turn off.

                          #Chill

                          Chill in the fridge for 1 hr

                          #Prep & Bake

                          Split into 24 cookies. Use parchment paper. Bake for 12-15 minutes at 375F.

                          2 sheets per bake swap sheets 1/2 way through

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                          • A amazingawesomator@lemmy.world

                            might as well just hand it over, lol. this is my ingredient list:

                            1 Cup (2 sticks) Butter
                            2-1/3 Cup Flour
                            1 Teaspoon Salt
                            1 Teaspoon Baking Soda
                            1/4 Cup Sugar
                            1 Cup Brown Sugar
                            2 Eggs
                            2 Tablespoons Milk
                            1-1/2 Teaspoons Vanilla
                            1 Bag (~11-12oz) of Choco Chips (substitutable)

                            edit: note: 2 eggs are for 1 whole egg + 1 egg yolk

                            edit 2: my steps… might as well…

                            #Melt Butter

                            melt the butter and let it cool slightly

                            #Mix 1

                            Mix together flour, salt, baking soda

                            putting onto paper plate after mixing works well here…

                            #Mix 2

                            In mixer, add butter, sugar, & brown sugar, and beat for 2 minutes

                            #Mix 3

                            Mix together 1 egg, 1 egg yolk, milk, vanilla

                            #Mix 3 & 2

                            Mix 3 into mix 2 on slow/stir

                            #Mix Plate

                            Slowly pour Mix 1 into main mix, make sure it fully mixes

                            #Add Chips

                            Pour in your chocolate (or whatever type) chips; mix on slow/stir until combined, then turn off.

                            #Chill

                            Chill in the fridge for 1 hr

                            #Prep & Bake

                            Split into 24 cookies. Use parchment paper. Bake for 12-15 minutes at 375F.

                            2 sheets per bake swap sheets 1/2 way through

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                            LadyButterfly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #21

                            You superstar! I’ve screenshotted it thanks so much. Is flour just plain flour? And do they go chewy not cakey because I feel cursed atm

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                            • L LadyButterfly

                              You superstar! I’ve screenshotted it thanks so much. Is flour just plain flour? And do they go chewy not cakey because I feel cursed atm

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                              amazingawesomator@lemmy.world
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                              #22

                              yes, i use all-purpose flour (same as plain flour, just american); these have that cookie texture, not the cakey texture (a small rise, but not a ton)

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                              • A amazingawesomator@lemmy.world

                                oh, saw another problem here. use baking soda for regular choco chip cookies.

                                baking soda == baking powder without the rising element. the acidity of the cookie will bring less fluffiness/cakiness than the full rise from powder. for a reference on amount (sorry, i am american so i use cheeseburger measurements…), i use 2-1/3c flour to 1 teaspoon baking soda; not cut with baking powder

                                edit: i think i said that wrong. baking soda has the rising agent, but not the activator for the rising agent. baking powder has the activator.

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                                elephantium@lemmy.world
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                                cheeseburger measurements

                                I love it! I’ve also heard this referred to as “… in freedom units”

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