Violence is always the answer
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My favorite take on this:
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One question per group. Also now you die because murder.
Barbarian just ripped the head off of one of the guards, you think the other guard is going to be able to arrest them?
โAnswer our questions or youโre next.โ
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Just shoot em in the foot
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I believe thatโs the joke. The barbarians intelligence isnโt usually very high.
I love playing low Intelligence high Wisdom characters. Because Wisdom governs stats like Perception, Insight, and Animal Handling. So your character will notice things that the rest of the party misses, but often doesnโt have the intelligence to put the individual pieces together.
Once played a high wisdom barbarian. He would notice things like traps or clues, but I would RP it with things like โHey, whyโs that wire stretched across the path? Someone is going to trip over thatโฆโ The other players very quickly learned to pay attention whenever I asked stupid questions, because it was usually my way of announcing โI noticed something that the rest of you missed.โ
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โIs the guard that tells the truth standing in front of the safe door?โ If they say yes, you go through their door, if they say no then you go to the other one
Thatโs wild that this works. What.
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Pyramids of Mars
Yes, thank you!! Found the scene itself since the whole serial is apparently on youtube: https://youtu.be/lLBHbt9QYFU?t=5458
Funny how my memory had it in black and white. And I remember the scene being much longer. I watched it when I was like, 9.
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โIs the guard that tells the truth standing in front of the safe door?โ If they say yes, you go through their door, if they say no then you go to the other one
I did not think this was going to work. Som bitch it does. Crazy
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This still doesnโt accomplish the goal of knowing which door will kill you. All youโve done is determine which guard is the liar.
That is why it is better for the barbarian to snap the wrist of the one guard, so that you can ask them a question still or you ask the first guard which way to the castle then rip his head off followed by asking the second guard if the first guard is dead. You will get the question from each guard and know which one tells the truth.
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I got an unexpected laugh from Rick and Mortys take on this. His answer was โyou ever fuck this guys wife?โ And watched them fight to the death.
I could swear this was a bit from the video game High On Life, unless they recycled the bit for Rick and Morty. I havenโt seen all the episodes.
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So the traditional answer here is to ask them to point at the door the other guard will say is safe.
However, Iโm curious, does anyone know of any other valid solutions?
How is that a valid answer, they would both point at a different door
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How is that a valid answer, they would both point at a different door
The liar, knowing the truth-teller will point to the good door, points to the bad door.
The truth-teller, knowing the liar would point to the bad door, points to the bad door.
Either way, you take the one your guard doesnโt point to.
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How is that a valid answer, they would both point at a different door
They will both point to the bad door.
If asking the thruthful guard, he will point to the door the liar says is safe, which would be the bad door. If asking the liar, he would consider what the thruthful guard says is safe, then reverse that answer, still ending up on the bad door.
They cancel out, so whichever guard you ask doesnโt matter.
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That is why it is better for the barbarian to snap the wrist of the one guard, so that you can ask them a question still or you ask the first guard which way to the castle then rip his head off followed by asking the second guard if the first guard is dead. You will get the question from each guard and know which one tells the truth.
Only one question allowed, they said. I donโt think itโs solvable.
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โIs the guard that tells the truth standing in front of the safe door?โ If they say yes, you go through their door, if they say no then you go to the other one
If they say yes they can still be a liar.
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So the traditional answer here is to ask them to point at the door the other guard will say is safe.
However, Iโm curious, does anyone know of any other valid solutions?
Could probably do something clever with XOR.
Is exactly one of the following statements true? You are the liar. Your door is the safe door.
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Thatโs funny! but if you want to know how to solve this problem every time, even when asking one single question, just ask this question:
โIf I ask the other guy which is the correct path, which path will he tell me?โ
No matter who you ask, both of them will point to the WRONG path, meaning the correct one is the one they DIDNโT point to. Here is the logic.
For the sake of argument, letโs assume the correct path is the right path. When you ask that question, if the person is the truthful one, he will be honest and say the left path. Because if you ask the liar what the correct path is, he will say it is the left path (which is false). Now if you ask the liar what the other guy will say the correct path is, he will lie to you and say it is the left path (which is also false, the truthful one will tell you it is the right path and not the left).
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Thatโs funny! but if you want to know how to solve this problem every time, even when asking one single question, just ask this question:
โIf I ask the other guy which is the correct path, which path will he tell me?โ
No matter who you ask, both of them will point to the WRONG path, meaning the correct one is the one they DIDNโT point to. Here is the logic.
For the sake of argument, letโs assume the correct path is the right path. When you ask that question, if the person is the truthful one, he will be honest and say the left path. Because if you ask the liar what the correct path is, he will say it is the left path (which is false). Now if you ask the liar what the other guy will say the correct path is, he will lie to you and say it is the left path (which is also false, the truthful one will tell you it is the right path and not the left).
and also, using โcorrect pathโ instead of โright pathโ will be less confuzzling because english words can have multiple meanings and are the dumb.
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Yes, thank you!! Found the scene itself since the whole serial is apparently on youtube: https://youtu.be/lLBHbt9QYFU?t=5458
Funny how my memory had it in black and white. And I remember the scene being much longer. I watched it when I was like, 9.
Maybe your childhood TV was black and white.
Length, brains just love to add details that dont exist
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It is solvable. You ask one guard at random, โWhich door would the other guard have said leads to certain doom if I had asked them?โ
And no matter which guard you ask, go through the door they answer with. If it was the truth teller guard, theyโll tell you which door the liar would have said, and if itโs the liar theyโll lie about which door the truth teller would have said.
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They will both point to the bad door.
If asking the thruthful guard, he will point to the door the liar says is safe, which would be the bad door. If asking the liar, he would consider what the thruthful guard says is safe, then reverse that answer, still ending up on the bad door.
They cancel out, so whichever guard you ask doesnโt matter.
Wouldnt they instead keep pointing like clockwork towards different doors seeing that they would have to adjust for the other guard?
