i think i learned that there was a lot wrong with my set up that windows just shoved under the rug. and maybe windows is right to do so, figuring i was willing to dig in deep this time, but my friends… not so much, and i don’t think i have the capability to help them if they run into issues like i did.

the reason ‘I’ learned to dislike flat packs is that it puts the software in its own little isolation bubble from what i understand. and i get where people are coming from. but they REALLY don’t like connecting to hardware, or sharing nice with other apps.

keep in mind i am a fairly adroit user of windows, diving in head first, so a lot of this is learning the hard way (nano anyone?) and i learned a lot. but yea bumpy.

i switched over to Bazzite about a week ago, and it has been super frustrating. though it’s not in where you think. the game my group is playing (Arc Raiders) worked without a hitch.

• but my speaker system, and microphone forced me to learn a whole lot about USB hand shakes,
• ghost usb profiles,
• usb cable choice,
• what a flatpac is and why people hate it,
• nano eccentricities (including how to save and quit, just labeling ctrl-o as save and not overwrite would stop so much bs),
• sink states,
• device name resolution,
• pipewire,
• pipe plumber,
• pipe wire holding devices hostage,
• usb power flapping because i plugged my speakers and my mic to close to each other causing the os to just give up on the both of them.
• the timing of when the os asks for usb identifiers, verses when the usb devices are given power
• out dated guides relying on depreciated methods and acceptable code used in modifiers to os procedure.

my experience and days of trouble shooting the “easy” replacement os for gaming has frightened my friend group far away from linux.

what a flatpac is and why people hate it,

Huh, most people actually like Flatpak, and for good reasons too.

nano is the Fishcer Price’s My First Text Editor and you’re expected to quickly graduate to something that sucks way more

I just installed cachyos after using mint for a year. Overall, was smooth until i tried to use VLC. Video played fine, but an hour of settings later and i could finally hear the movie. I was an inch from saying fuck it and going back to mint. I debug software for a living, last thing i want to deal with is debugging my personal computer when I just want to watch a movie.

May go back at some point, mint really is so easy and just worked, but the performance and aur are pretty great.

from what i gather that means you reach for the 9mm when you don’t know how to say please?

i think i learned that there was a lot wrong with my set up that windows just shoved under the rug. and maybe windows is right to do so, figuring i was willing to dig in deep this time, but my friends… not so much, and i don’t think i have the capability to help them if they run into issues like i did.

When I was trying to use discord, my friends were confused why I was having issues getting my mic to work and were sorta teasing me for using linux. When they found out what I was trying to do (something I couldn’t figure out how to do in Windows despite looking into it multiple times over the last decade or so), they were more just confused why I’d even be doing what I was and they would have never even considered trying to do that. But I finally have my audio pathing set up the way I’ve always wanted to and I love qpwgraph.

i’m my case i am using apparently old hardware, i ran into the following issues with my set up:

• my usb cable for the mic was crap. and because the signal was flaky, Bazzite put the port on low priority mode where it only checks in when asked
• the usb cable was insufficient to push the data, i swear it came with the mic. still thing this was a dubious conclusion, but a new cable was 5$
• Bazzite would ask my USB speaker and mic within milliseconds of receiving power what their designation was, and the controllers in the devices responded so slowly that Bazzite gave them new names and put them in passive mode. i had to bake in the command to treat that like legacy equipment (ouch) to sit and listen for a reply however long it takes.
• the speakers are flipped in meat space, due to outlets and the length of available cable, i can not change this, so i had to flip it in software, i was recommended easyeffects, but pipewire hated its guts, and i was better off learning to bake it in via the terminal after i was able to find the devices actual name once i got them out of passive jail above.
• i had to bin the flat pack versions of discord and my web browser Vivaldi. don’t want to get into a browser war i have had enough trying to siphon through redacted reddit posts about that

won’t lie i had to use AI to RTFM though chat GPT bricked my stuff more then i should have let it. gemini was better at this

Linux is at a point where we really shouldn’t be using distro specific installers.

Wow you certainly learned a lot trouble shooting that.

I haven’t had something that annoying happen, usually it’s been install and use.

BUT putting Linux on an ancient dell box was a learning experience. I installed the system on the HDD. After shutdowns the aystem would wake back up. The solution was adding kernel quirks line to grub boot with a numeric code, which told the hardware to ignore the self wake up event from the USB bus.

Then when I wanted speed the bios didn’t support NVME boot. So I had to add a small ssd for boot partition , but have rest of system on the NVME drive. I didn’t want to reinstall and resetup so I was learning a lot about gparted and copy pasting partitions and editting fstab to cobble together a replicated set of partitions. It was a great way to understand how formatting, partitioning and mounts all worked.

Why the hell is Gates on that image?? The guy stepped down as a CEO 26 years ago, and left the board of directors six years ago.

The enshittification is all Nadela’s baby.

very same with me, yea. though i was having so many problems with easyeffects i was gun shy using another program to manage the speakers when i just wanted the one change. so i baked in a rule for that named speaker only into the os

Yeah we should just choose a winner and go with their system.

This should be easy!

Yeah we should just choose a winner and go with their system.

This should be easy!

My sound doesnt work on cachy either.

I think they were getting at Flatpaks, Snaps or AppImages (my personal favourite)

Linux is at a point where we really shouldn’t be using distro specific installers.

shouldn’t be using distro specific installers.

We have Flatpak and AppImage, and space isn’t as expensive as it once was. The problem I have is the sandboxing and isolation can make plugins problematic.