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It turns out that fungus growing termites sometimes cultivate Termitomyces titanicus.

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  • myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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    It turns out that fungus growing termites sometimes cultivate Termitomyces titanicus. This is an excellent scientific name.

    CORRECTION:
    I assumed they had to work like ants. Wrong! (A fruiting body would only emerge from a dead ant colony not so with these termites) Something about macrotermitinaes nuptial flights stimulates mushroom fruiting. (!) They get covered in pink spores.

    And you can eat it!

    Hence the species name.

    myrmepropagandistF Sin VegaS CM HarringtonO Michael GemarM Kevin RussellK 16 Replies Last reply
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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      It turns out that fungus growing termites sometimes cultivate Termitomyces titanicus. This is an excellent scientific name.

      CORRECTION:
      I assumed they had to work like ants. Wrong! (A fruiting body would only emerge from a dead ant colony not so with these termites) Something about macrotermitinaes nuptial flights stimulates mushroom fruiting. (!) They get covered in pink spores.

      And you can eat it!

      Hence the species name.

      myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
      myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
      myrmepropagandist
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      The fungi farmed by ants (Leucoagaricus gongylophorus) also produces mushrooms when their colonies die out. This fungi can't survive without the ants and the ants propagate it by carrying it with them when they found new nests:

      So what is the purpose of the mushrooms?

      Is it just a hold-over from the days before the fungi was dependent on ants?

      I've been trying to find out if you can eat the ones that grow on old ant nests.

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      Attached: 1 image I had NO IDEA that Atta fungus could fruit. Can people eat it? The ants have optimized the fungus for protein, sugars, amino acids. It's a super food for ants, which might not sound relevant to people, but humans & ants have a lot in common when it comes to diet. We both need high calorie density foods. The typical ant diet of insects & sugars is pretty nutritious. Probably not what we'd call tasty. I really need some mushroom expert to find out if we can eat that fungus. It's very special.

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        The fungi farmed by ants (Leucoagaricus gongylophorus) also produces mushrooms when their colonies die out. This fungi can't survive without the ants and the ants propagate it by carrying it with them when they found new nests:

        So what is the purpose of the mushrooms?

        Is it just a hold-over from the days before the fungi was dependent on ants?

        I've been trying to find out if you can eat the ones that grow on old ant nests.

        Link Preview Image
        myrmepropagandist (@futurebird@sauropods.win)

        Attached: 1 image I had NO IDEA that Atta fungus could fruit. Can people eat it? The ants have optimized the fungus for protein, sugars, amino acids. It's a super food for ants, which might not sound relevant to people, but humans & ants have a lot in common when it comes to diet. We both need high calorie density foods. The typical ant diet of insects & sugars is pretty nutritious. Probably not what we'd call tasty. I really need some mushroom expert to find out if we can eat that fungus. It's very special.

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        PetraP This user is from outside of this forum
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        @futurebird are they completely unable to spread that way, or is it a desperation strategy?

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          It turns out that fungus growing termites sometimes cultivate Termitomyces titanicus. This is an excellent scientific name.

          CORRECTION:
          I assumed they had to work like ants. Wrong! (A fruiting body would only emerge from a dead ant colony not so with these termites) Something about macrotermitinaes nuptial flights stimulates mushroom fruiting. (!) They get covered in pink spores.

          And you can eat it!

          Hence the species name.

          Sin VegaS This user is from outside of this forum
          Sin VegaS This user is from outside of this forum
          Sin Vega
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          #4

          @futurebird funeral umbrella 😞

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            The fungi farmed by ants (Leucoagaricus gongylophorus) also produces mushrooms when their colonies die out. This fungi can't survive without the ants and the ants propagate it by carrying it with them when they found new nests:

            So what is the purpose of the mushrooms?

            Is it just a hold-over from the days before the fungi was dependent on ants?

            I've been trying to find out if you can eat the ones that grow on old ant nests.

            Link Preview Image
            myrmepropagandist (@futurebird@sauropods.win)

            Attached: 1 image I had NO IDEA that Atta fungus could fruit. Can people eat it? The ants have optimized the fungus for protein, sugars, amino acids. It's a super food for ants, which might not sound relevant to people, but humans & ants have a lot in common when it comes to diet. We both need high calorie density foods. The typical ant diet of insects & sugars is pretty nutritious. Probably not what we'd call tasty. I really need some mushroom expert to find out if we can eat that fungus. It's very special.

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            Autumn KelpW This user is from outside of this forum
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            Autumn Kelp
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            @futurebird
            Looks like you are trying to convert fungiphiles into ant enjoyers.
            I think it might be working...

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              It turns out that fungus growing termites sometimes cultivate Termitomyces titanicus. This is an excellent scientific name.

              CORRECTION:
              I assumed they had to work like ants. Wrong! (A fruiting body would only emerge from a dead ant colony not so with these termites) Something about macrotermitinaes nuptial flights stimulates mushroom fruiting. (!) They get covered in pink spores.

              And you can eat it!

              Hence the species name.

              CM HarringtonO This user is from outside of this forum
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              CM Harrington
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              @futurebird big totoro vibes.

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              • PetraP Petra

                @futurebird are they completely unable to spread that way, or is it a desperation strategy?

                myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                @PetraOleum

                It's never really found just living on its own without ants to take care of it?

                Ants keep it clean, set the correct humidity, feed it plant matter...

                In fact, many antkeepers have tried to farm it (so they have extra fungi for their pet ants) and it's basically been impossible for people to do it, even with clean rooms, carefully cut leaves and humidity chambers.

                It's totally dependent on ants.

                Now... could it maybe float as spores and join an existing ant colony? Maybe? IDK

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                • Sin VegaS Sin Vega

                  @futurebird funeral umbrella 😞

                  myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  myrmepropagandist
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                  @sinvega

                  The size says something about what the termites created. An empire!

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    @PetraOleum

                    It's never really found just living on its own without ants to take care of it?

                    Ants keep it clean, set the correct humidity, feed it plant matter...

                    In fact, many antkeepers have tried to farm it (so they have extra fungi for their pet ants) and it's basically been impossible for people to do it, even with clean rooms, carefully cut leaves and humidity chambers.

                    It's totally dependent on ants.

                    Now... could it maybe float as spores and join an existing ant colony? Maybe? IDK

                    PetraP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Petra
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                    @futurebird I wonder if you can sample the genetics of colonies and their fungus to work out if the lines of descent always match

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      It turns out that fungus growing termites sometimes cultivate Termitomyces titanicus. This is an excellent scientific name.

                      CORRECTION:
                      I assumed they had to work like ants. Wrong! (A fruiting body would only emerge from a dead ant colony not so with these termites) Something about macrotermitinaes nuptial flights stimulates mushroom fruiting. (!) They get covered in pink spores.

                      And you can eat it!

                      Hence the species name.

                      Michael GemarM This user is from outside of this forum
                      Michael GemarM This user is from outside of this forum
                      Michael Gemar
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                      @futurebird The mushroom is cool, but also kinda sad.

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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        It turns out that fungus growing termites sometimes cultivate Termitomyces titanicus. This is an excellent scientific name.

                        CORRECTION:
                        I assumed they had to work like ants. Wrong! (A fruiting body would only emerge from a dead ant colony not so with these termites) Something about macrotermitinaes nuptial flights stimulates mushroom fruiting. (!) They get covered in pink spores.

                        And you can eat it!

                        Hence the species name.

                        Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
                        Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
                        Kevin Russell
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                        @futurebird

                        Wow again. Your posts are always fantastic and wonderful. Science dammit.

                        Gratitude

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                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                          It turns out that fungus growing termites sometimes cultivate Termitomyces titanicus. This is an excellent scientific name.

                          CORRECTION:
                          I assumed they had to work like ants. Wrong! (A fruiting body would only emerge from a dead ant colony not so with these termites) Something about macrotermitinaes nuptial flights stimulates mushroom fruiting. (!) They get covered in pink spores.

                          And you can eat it!

                          Hence the species name.

                          JeffC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @futurebird there's a humongus fungus among us.

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                          • Michael GemarM Michael Gemar

                            @futurebird The mushroom is cool, but also kinda sad.

                            Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @michaelgemar @futurebird

                            Why sad?

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                            • Kevin RussellK Kevin Russell

                              @michaelgemar @futurebird

                              Why sad?

                              Michael GemarM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @kevinrns @futurebird It means a colony has died.

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                              • Kevin RussellK Kevin Russell

                                @michaelgemar @futurebird

                                Why sad?

                                myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @kevinrns @michaelgemar

                                termite empire is fallen 😞

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                                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                  @kevinrns @michaelgemar

                                  termite empire is fallen 😞

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                                  @futurebird @michaelgemar

                                  Ahh. Ozymandias.

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                                  • PetraP Petra

                                    @futurebird I wonder if you can sample the genetics of colonies and their fungus to work out if the lines of descent always match

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                                    @PetraOleum

                                    I've been slowly reading this paper on the genetics of the crops of various ants. At lest per genus there isn't much crossover. And even per species.

                                    ResearchGate - Temporarily Unavailable

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                                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                      @kevinrns @michaelgemar

                                      termite empire is fallen 😞

                                      Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @futurebird @michaelgemar

                                      Look upon my works ye mighty

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                                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                        It turns out that fungus growing termites sometimes cultivate Termitomyces titanicus. This is an excellent scientific name.

                                        CORRECTION:
                                        I assumed they had to work like ants. Wrong! (A fruiting body would only emerge from a dead ant colony not so with these termites) Something about macrotermitinaes nuptial flights stimulates mushroom fruiting. (!) They get covered in pink spores.

                                        And you can eat it!

                                        Hence the species name.

                                        🇵🇸  single use plastique 🏴‍☠️M This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @futurebird@sauropods.win damn that could feed a lot of people

                                        also didn't know termites and ants 'farm' but makes perfect sense

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                                        • Kevin RussellK Kevin Russell

                                          @futurebird @michaelgemar

                                          Look upon my works ye mighty

                                          myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @kevinrns @michaelgemar

                                          The great mushroom is a tribute to the termites. Announcing they recently sent out a nuptial flight. (corrected)

                                          (Often when you see mushrooms it means that the Mycelium, the living fungi has reached the end of its life.

                                          Somehow this isn't the case with Macrotermitinae and Termitomyces titanicus. I will need to think about how this is possible.)

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