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Gamers Are Reportedly Skipping GPU Upgrades Due to Soaring Prices — Paying Bills Takes Priority Over Chasing NVIDIA’s RTX 5090

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  • C cm0002@lemmy.world

    Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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    tiredofsametab
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    #54

    I’m on a 2080 or 2090 (I forget which). I thought I’d upgrade to the 40xx now that 5090s are out. I looked at the prices and absolutely not. The 5090s are around 500k JPY, and ordering from the US would work out to about the same with exchange, tax, and any possible tariff that exists this week. Salaries here are also much lower than in the west as well on average even for those of us in software.

    4070s are still around 100k which is cheaper than last time I looked at 250k ish.

    Price aggregator site in Japan if you want to play around: https://kakaku.com/pc/videocard/itemlist.aspx?pdf_Spec103=500 On the left, you’ll see the cards to select and the prices are obvious on the screen.

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    • C cm0002@lemmy.world

      Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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      monogram@feddit.nl
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      #55

      I downgraded from a gtx1060 to a ryzen 5000g igpu terraria & factorio don’t need much.

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      • G grindinggears@lemmy.ca

        Those cards were like what though, $199?

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        jesus_666@lemmy.world
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        #56

        That’s still not cheap when you account for inflation. Of course there’s a world of difference between “not cheap” and what they charge these days.

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        • C cheesenoodle@lemmy.world

          Saved up for a couple of years and built the best (consumer grade) non nvidia PC I could, 9070XT, 9950X3D, 64gig of RAM. Pretty much top end everything that isn’t Nvidia or just spamming redundant RAM for no reason. The whole thing still costs less than a single RTX 5090 and on average draws less power too.

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          sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          #57

          Yep, thats gonna be significantly more powerful than my planned build… and likely somewhere between 500 to 1000 more expensive… but yep, that is how absurd this is, that all of that is still less expensive than a 5090 RTX.

          I’m guessing you could get all of that to work with a 750 W PSU, 850 W if you also want to have a bunch of storage drives or a lot of cooling, but yeah, you’d only need that much for running raytracing in 4k.

          Does that sound about right?

          Eitherway… yeah… imagine an alternate timeline where marketing and industry direction isn’t bullshit, where people actually admit things like:

          Consoles cannot really do what they claim to do at 4K… at actual 4K.

          They use checkerboard upscaling, so basically they’re actually running at 2K and scaling up, and its actually less than 2K in demanding raytraced games, because they’re actually using FSR or DLSS as well, oh and the base graphics settings are a mix of what PC gamers would call medium and high, but they don’t show console gamers real graphics settings menus, so they don’t know that.

          Maybe, maybe we could have tried to focus on just perfecting frame per watt and frame per $ efficiency at 2K instead of baffling us with marketing bs and claiming we can just leapfrog to 4K, and more recently, telling people 8K displays make any goddamned sense at all, when in 95% of home setup situations, of any kind, they have no physically possible perceptible gains.

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          • S sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            Yep, thats gonna be significantly more powerful than my planned build… and likely somewhere between 500 to 1000 more expensive… but yep, that is how absurd this is, that all of that is still less expensive than a 5090 RTX.

            I’m guessing you could get all of that to work with a 750 W PSU, 850 W if you also want to have a bunch of storage drives or a lot of cooling, but yeah, you’d only need that much for running raytracing in 4k.

            Does that sound about right?

            Eitherway… yeah… imagine an alternate timeline where marketing and industry direction isn’t bullshit, where people actually admit things like:

            Consoles cannot really do what they claim to do at 4K… at actual 4K.

            They use checkerboard upscaling, so basically they’re actually running at 2K and scaling up, and its actually less than 2K in demanding raytraced games, because they’re actually using FSR or DLSS as well, oh and the base graphics settings are a mix of what PC gamers would call medium and high, but they don’t show console gamers real graphics settings menus, so they don’t know that.

            Maybe, maybe we could have tried to focus on just perfecting frame per watt and frame per $ efficiency at 2K instead of baffling us with marketing bs and claiming we can just leapfrog to 4K, and more recently, telling people 8K displays make any goddamned sense at all, when in 95% of home setup situations, of any kind, they have no physically possible perceptible gains.

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            cheesenoodle@lemmy.world
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            1000W PSU for theoretical maximum draw of all components at once with a good safety margin. But even when running a render I’ve never seen it break 500W.

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            • C cm0002@lemmy.world

              Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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              xenny@lemmy.world
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              #59

              Rimworld doesn’t need a new gpu

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              • 4 474d@lemmy.world

                “When did it just become expected that everybody would upgrade GPU’s every year and that’s suppose to be normal?” - that’s a really good question because I don’t think normal PC gamers have ever, and still aren’t, like that. It’s basically part of the culture to stretch your GPU to the limit of time so idk who you’re complaining about. Yeah, GPU prices are bullshit rn but let’s not make up stuff

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                zurohki@aussie.zone
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                #60

                Nah, there was a time when you’d get a new card every two years and it’d be twice as fast for the same price.

                Nowadays the new cards are 10% faster for 15% more money.

                I bought a new card last year after running a Vega 64 for ages and I honestly think it might last me ten years because things are only getting worse.

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                • X xenny@lemmy.world

                  Rimworld doesn’t need a new gpu

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                  knightly the Sneptaur
                  wrote on last edited by knightly@pawb.social
                  #61

                  What it needs is a new multi-threaded engine so I can actually use all these extra cores. XD

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                  • Lord WiggleL Lord Wiggle

                    Fuck Nvidia anyways. #teamred

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                    poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #62

                    #teamred

                    Temu Nvidia is so much better, true. Please support the “underdog” billion dollar company.

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                    • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                      Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                      Bakkoda
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                      #63

                      My new gpu was a steam deck.

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                      • missingnoM missingno

                        I don’t think they’re actually expecting anyone to upgrade annually. But there’s always someone due for an upgrade, however long it’s been for them. You can compare what percentage of users upgraded this year to previous years.

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                        dditty
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                        #64

                        I just finally upgraded from a 1080 Ti to a 5070 Ti. At high refresh-rate 1440p the 1080 Ti was definitely showing its age and certain games would crash (even with no GPU overclock). Fortunately I was able to get a PNY 5070 Ti for only ~$60 over MSRP at the local Microcenter.

                        5000 series is a pretty shitty value across the board, but I got a new job (and pay increase) and so it was the right time for me to upgrade after 8 years.

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                        • poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.deP poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de

                          #teamred

                          Temu Nvidia is so much better, true. Please support the “underdog” billion dollar company.

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                          Lord Wiggle
                          wrote on last edited by lordwiggle@lemmy.world
                          #65

                          I support the lesser evil option, yes. It’s not like I have much other choices now, do I? Thanks to fucking Nvidia.

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                          • V vividspecter@lemm.ee

                            It doesn’t help that the gains have been smaller, and the prices higher.

                            I’ve got a RX 6800 I bought in 2020, and nothing but the 5090 is a significant upgrade, and I’m sure as fuck not paying that kind of money for a video card.

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                            andymfk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            #66

                            I just picked up a used RX 6800 XT after doing some research and comparing prices.

                            The fact that a gpu this old can outperform or match most newer cards at a fraction of the price is insane, but I’m very happy with my purchase. Solid upgrade from my 1070 Ti

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                            • T tiredofsametab

                              I’m on a 2080 or 2090 (I forget which). I thought I’d upgrade to the 40xx now that 5090s are out. I looked at the prices and absolutely not. The 5090s are around 500k JPY, and ordering from the US would work out to about the same with exchange, tax, and any possible tariff that exists this week. Salaries here are also much lower than in the west as well on average even for those of us in software.

                              4070s are still around 100k which is cheaper than last time I looked at 250k ish.

                              Price aggregator site in Japan if you want to play around: https://kakaku.com/pc/videocard/itemlist.aspx?pdf_Spec103=500 On the left, you’ll see the cards to select and the prices are obvious on the screen.

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                              omegaman@lemmings.world
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                              #67

                              Don’t think they made a 2090. 2080 or 2080 ti I guess.

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                              • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                                Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                                yesman@lemmy.world
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #68

                                I’m rocking a GTX 1660 and have no plans to upgrade. Ray-tracing is a scam and all the “AAA” titles that are too vram hungry for my card are not that attractive anyway.

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                                • blackmist@feddit.ukB blackmist@feddit.uk

                                  Still on a 1060 over here.

                                  Sure, I may have to limit FFXIV to 30fps in summer to stop it crashing, but it still runs.

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                                  jimmycakes@lemmy.world
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                                  #69

                                  They are talking about skipping 1 or 2 generations not taking 10 years off

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                                  • I incogcyberspaceuser@lemmy.world

                                    What’s wrong with 4k gaming? Just curious

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                                    endeavor@sopuli.xyz
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                                    You pay ton more money for a screen thats ppi is too dense to matter only to to pay ton more money for a pc to still run it at terrible framerate with lowered settings and fake frames.

                                    4k is a pure scam.

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                                    • knightly the SneptaurK knightly the Sneptaur

                                      What it needs is a new multi-threaded engine so I can actually use all these extra cores. XD

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                                      Sabata
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                                      #71

                                      Sounds like version 1.6 is supposed to get multithreading.

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                                      • C cheesenoodle@lemmy.world

                                        Saved up for a couple of years and built the best (consumer grade) non nvidia PC I could, 9070XT, 9950X3D, 64gig of RAM. Pretty much top end everything that isn’t Nvidia or just spamming redundant RAM for no reason. The whole thing still costs less than a single RTX 5090 and on average draws less power too.

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                                        chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz
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                                        And then to stick it to the man further you’re running Linux of course, right?

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                                        • SabataS Sabata

                                          Sounds like version 1.6 is supposed to get multithreading.

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                                          coacoamelky@lemm.ee
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                                          Can’t wait

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