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NVIDIA GPU market domination hits almost 100%, AMD dwindles, Intel non-existent

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  • B brotha_jaufrey@lemmy.world

    IMO there’s zero reason to buy an nvidia gpu if there’s a similarly performing amd card because the price will just be better.

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    garry@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Amd promised a msrp of 600 for the 9070xt, it rarely goes below 750. All amd had to do was stick to their prices and have ample stock. Amd is satisfied with second place

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    • L lemonysplit@lemmy.ca

      Meanwhile framework’s new AMD offering has nvidia slop in it. Just why. We want AMD. Give us AMD.

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      notthebees@reddthat.com
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      They did. There’s just no new amd mobile gpus. Like I think they only have 100 watt tdp or Max cooling to work with and the 7700S is the fastest amd mobile gpu currently.

      If amd makes a new mobile gpu, framework will probably make it into a module.

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      • Grant_MG Grant_M

        Rocking an R9 280 atm 👍

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        twiddletwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I only upgraded from my 380 this year

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        • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

          They need dGPUs worth buying for HPC, other than servers that cost more than a house, so devs will actually target them.

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          notthebees@reddthat.com
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          #40

          They have the hardware for hpc, with their instinct cards. Software support is slowly growing. Rocm is fine, ZLUDA is pain and suffering on amd cards. I have a 6800xt, so old but decently supported and even then it’s annoying

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          • N notthebees@reddthat.com

            They have the hardware for hpc, with their instinct cards. Software support is slowly growing. Rocm is fine, ZLUDA is pain and suffering on amd cards. I have a 6800xt, so old but decently supported and even then it’s annoying

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            brucethemoose@lemmy.world
            wrote on last edited by brucethemoose@lemmy.world
            #41

            What I mean is they need to sell reasonable high VRAM cards that aren’t a MI325X, heh.

            There’s not really a motivation to target them over a 3090 or 4090 or whatever, but that would change with bigger VRAM pools.

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            • R reallyactuallyfrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com

              Seems like a weird strategy to not compete out of fear of success.

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              holytimes@sh.itjust.works
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              #42

              It’s fear of failure not success because success isn’t an option.

              Cause if they start to “succeed” then they actually fail since they will be crushed by Nvidia.

              Their options are to either hold the status quo or lose more because they angered the green hulk in the room

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                Sonalder
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                #43

                That is concerning

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                • R reallyactuallyfrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com

                  Seems like a weird strategy to not compete out of fear of success.

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                  Diplomjodler
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                  #44

                  You don’t want to anger the 800 pound gorilla.

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                  • G garry@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                    Amd promised a msrp of 600 for the 9070xt, it rarely goes below 750. All amd had to do was stick to their prices and have ample stock. Amd is satisfied with second place

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                    sheogorath@lemmy.world
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                    #45

                    It fells between 5070 Ti and 5080 while still being cheaper than 5070 Ti.

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                    • 9 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world

                      Who the hell keeps buying nvidia? Stop it.

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                      brb@sh.itjust.works
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                      AMD doesn’t support CUDA

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                      • empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.comE empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                        But in desktops, everyone seems to complain about Nvidia pricing, yet no one is touching Battlemage or the 9000 series? Why?

                        Its always been this way: they want AMD and Intel to compete so Nvidia gets cheaper, not that they will ever buy AMD or Intel. Gamers seem to be the laziest, most easily influenced consumer sector ever.

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                        alchalide@lemmy.world
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                        #47

                        That one stung XD. I went with an AMD GPU in 2023 after only owning Nvidia for decades. I went with AMD because I was not satisfied with the amount of Vram Nvidia offers and I did not want burning power connectors. Overall it’s stable and works great. There are some bugs here and there, but zero regrets.

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                        • R rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          I love my high end 1440p165hz IPs G-Sync monitor.

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                          ne0phyte@feddit.org
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                          #48

                          What does that have to do with anything? Pretty much all monitors also support FreeSync which works just as well.

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                            Luffy
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                            „The Market” is not a good measure. Hell, its not even a measure at all. No consumer is able to pull any good info from this article.

                            Its the equivalent of „How much money has been spent of products by company xy”, completely disregarding if the products sold are even competing with each other, let alone if the production of one company is even trying to sell at that scale

                            Now regarding the article: they are not differentiating between enterprise and personal grade products. Of course Intel is non existent in Enterprise GPU sales, because they don’t even sell fucking Enterprise GPUs. Same with amd.

                            This is like comparing a local steel working company with weckerle machines who mostly makes industry Make-up equipment (out of steel) and saying that Weckerle dominates the Market

                            Or like saying „Gamers Beware: Pre-built PCs are dominating the market”, then showing a study about „ Computing devices”, and showing that the 2 main sources are Enterprise buying bulk and NUCs, both of which have nothing to do with what the article is implying in the first place, since, and say this with me

                            • Enterprise devices are completely different from consumer devices, both in terms of price and in volume, and if compared directly (in the middle of an economic crisis) of course an Enterprise is going to spend way more money on one category.
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                            • L Luffy

                              „The Market” is not a good measure. Hell, its not even a measure at all. No consumer is able to pull any good info from this article.

                              Its the equivalent of „How much money has been spent of products by company xy”, completely disregarding if the products sold are even competing with each other, let alone if the production of one company is even trying to sell at that scale

                              Now regarding the article: they are not differentiating between enterprise and personal grade products. Of course Intel is non existent in Enterprise GPU sales, because they don’t even sell fucking Enterprise GPUs. Same with amd.

                              This is like comparing a local steel working company with weckerle machines who mostly makes industry Make-up equipment (out of steel) and saying that Weckerle dominates the Market

                              Or like saying „Gamers Beware: Pre-built PCs are dominating the market”, then showing a study about „ Computing devices”, and showing that the 2 main sources are Enterprise buying bulk and NUCs, both of which have nothing to do with what the article is implying in the first place, since, and say this with me

                              • Enterprise devices are completely different from consumer devices, both in terms of price and in volume, and if compared directly (in the middle of an economic crisis) of course an Enterprise is going to spend way more money on one category.
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                              evil_shrubbery@thelemmy.club
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                              #50

                              Y’all have pre-built phones? And even laptops? Or car computers??
                              Weirdos.

                              /s

                              But def, this type of info is at best for the investors (and even then just unstructured info about market shares), not consumers.

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                              • S sheogorath@lemmy.world

                                It fells between 5070 Ti and 5080 while still being cheaper than 5070 Ti.

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                                garry@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                5070 ti has come down to its normal price. You can find listings for $750. 9070 xt is better in some games than the 5070 ti in terms of raw raster. When it comes to upscaling, efficiency,and ray tracing. The 5070 ti is better.

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                                  Bakkoda
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                                  TIL there’s a lot of people who don’t know what a dGPU is in here

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                                  • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                                    What I mean is they need to sell reasonable high VRAM cards that aren’t a MI325X, heh.

                                    There’s not really a motivation to target them over a 3090 or 4090 or whatever, but that would change with bigger VRAM pools.

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                                    notthebees@reddthat.com
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                                    7900xtx is 24 gb, the 9700 pro has 32 gb as far as high end consumer/prosumer goes. There’s no point of shoving that much vram into it if support is painful and makes it hard to develop. I’m probably biased due to my 6800xt, one of the earliest cards that’s still supported by rocm, so there’s a bunch of stuff my gpu can’t do. ZLUDA is painful to get working (and I have it easier due to my 6800xt), ROCM is mostly works but vram utilization is very inefficient for some reason and it’s Linux only, which is fine but I’d like more crossplatform options. Vulkan compute is deprecated within pytorch. AMD HIP is annoying as well but idk how much of it was just my experience with ZLUDA.

                                    Intel actually has better cross platform support with IPEX, but that’s just pytorch. Again, fine.

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                                    • N ne0phyte@feddit.org

                                      What does that have to do with anything? Pretty much all monitors also support FreeSync which works just as well.

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                                      rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      I have a g-sync monitor. It supports g-sync. It is very nice, but unfortunately it does NOT support freesync.

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                                      • empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.comE empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                        But in desktops, everyone seems to complain about Nvidia pricing, yet no one is touching Battlemage or the 9000 series? Why?

                                        Its always been this way: they want AMD and Intel to compete so Nvidia gets cheaper, not that they will ever buy AMD or Intel. Gamers seem to be the laziest, most easily influenced consumer sector ever.

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                                        notthebees@reddthat.com
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                                        #55

                                        People who say buy Intel and amd probably either did or will when they upgrade, which is probably not anytime soon with the way everything seems to be going.

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                                        • T tinidril@midwest.social

                                          Don’t forget the crypto scammers.

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                                          9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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                                          GPU hasnt been profitable to mine for many years now.

                                          People just keep parroting anti-crypto talking points for years without actually knowing what’a going on

                                          To be clear, 99% of the crypto space is a scam. But to blame them for GPU shortages and high prices is just misinformation

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