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6 in 10 Canadians say they can never trust Americans the same way again

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  • merc@sh.itjust.worksM merc@sh.itjust.works

    Well, for that you’d have to talk to a certain English colonist named “George Washington”.

    During a time when the English and French were technically at peace, this “Washington” fellow, a Lieutenant Colonel in the Virginia Regiment, ambushed a French detachment of 50 men, killing them all, including their commander who had been carrying a diplomatic message for the British.

    This “Washington” fellow was a real fuck-up. Not only did he kick off the French and Indian war (also known as the 7 years war) by ambushing and killing a diplomatic courier during a time of peace, he then holed up in a fort which the French attacked and then he surrendered. When he surrendered, he signed a surrender document in which he took responsibility for assassinating Jumonville, the diplomatic courier.

    This dude continued to fuck up too. He resigned his commission after this because as a colonial, he wasn’t allowed to have the rank he thought he deserved. A year later, he signed on as an aide to General Edward Braddock, who was planning to expel the French from Fort Duquesne. Washington came up with the master plan of splitting the army into a main column and a second smaller “flying column”. The French and their native allies ambushed the divided army and killed 2/3 of them, including General Braddock.

    After a series of mistakes like that, I can only assume this guy faded into obscurity, forgotten as yet another failed son of a rich aristocrat. History is full of rich children like that who think they can play at “army” but who just keep screwing up.

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    drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
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    And the British crown did not hang the British officer?

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      arankays@lemmy.ca
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      #124

      Canada needs a nuke now more than ever. Build it. And any time the orange fuckhead threatens annexation load it up in the silo.

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      • nightowl@lemmy.caN nightowl@lemmy.ca
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        Lladra
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        Seems low.

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        • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

          Do Canadians say “left-tenent” like Brits?

          Also, asking someone to spell that word is a pretty tall order lol

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          thefool@sh.itjust.works
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          The Canadian army says leftenant like the Brits, yes

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          • O octopusnemeses@lemmy.world

            It’s not ending any time soon. The US supreme court will remain a theocratic conservative majority for most of our lives. Regardless of how old you are. You will be quite old by the time that changes.

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            thatkamguy@sh.itjust.works
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            #127

            A brave-enough Congress could overhaul the Supreme Court, as they had in the past.

            Unfortunately that level of courage is missing from most current politicians.

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            • F freshparsnip@lemmy.ca

              After this nightmare is over, the Untied States need a complete overhaul

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              thatkamguy@sh.itjust.works
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              Balkanisation might honestly be the only solution; but that would involve the US giving up its current position as the only remaining global superpower.

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                rakonat@lemmy.world
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                #129

                As an American, the other 4 out of 10 must be idiots. GOP is on a mission to destroy everything that makes America a superpower.

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                • B bc_viper@lemmy.world

                  Every American is the enemy. Unless they deal.with their leader.

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                  rakonat@lemmy.world
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                  #130

                  We Minnesotans are hoping to be annexed by Canada

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                  • thatweirdguy1001@lemmy.worldT thatweirdguy1001@lemmy.world

                    I hate that I’m lumped in with these people but I also understand.

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                    darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
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                    #131

                    Individuals are to be assessed and judged individually based on their own merit; but trust in the collective, particularly of those in a position of power has eroded so enormously that the ‘benefit of the doubt’ is lost.

                    There’s no choice but to assume the worst will happen; because of this, I will NEVER live in America. It will be a long long time before I even consider visiting, and for the foreseeable future I will continue to make an effort to not buy American products.

                    I’ve been removing American tech companies from my life over the last 5-10years, but I’ve been stepping up those efforts more recently and this is only more encouragement.

                    I’m lumped in with these people

                    Maybe at first glance, but first impressions aren’t everything. Everyone deserves a chance; keep your chin up m8. I wish you the best of luck in this crazy world. 🇨🇦

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                    • D drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world

                      And the British crown did not hang the British officer?

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                      merc@sh.itjust.works
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                      #132

                      They probably should have. It might have changed history a bit if they had.

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                      • B beejboytyson@lemmy.world

                        You know Canadians burn down the white house, right? And the first nation people were the one that led the atk? Right?

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                        mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca
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                        #133

                        That’s one of my favorite facts about the long storied history between Canada and the USA.

                        Ha ha.

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                        • M matlag

                          No matter how good a person could be, I wouldn’t trust them if they are easily manipulated in believing BS. I won’t hate them, but I won’t trust them.

                          Anyone with an bit of judgement could see what Trump was. And yet he was elected. Twice!

                          So all these “good people” have cpntributed to elect a fascist twice already. You want me to trust they won’t elect another one after him? That this is a two times mistake and Canadians can rely on the US after that?

                          Nope.

                          Maybe they were lied to about Trump. They will be lied to again by others about other fascists.

                          You can blame education, oligarchs propaganda, whatever. Point is: Canada can’t rely on the USA, even if Trump goes away.

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                          joeffect@lemmy.world
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                          #134

                          This might put some of it into a better perspective…

                          You would be amazed at how easily you can be manipulated…

                          You will probably sit there and say not me never, but you probably have been manipulated and tricked into thinking differently and didn’t even realize it…

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                          • R rakonat@lemmy.world

                            As an American, the other 4 out of 10 must be idiots. GOP is on a mission to destroy everything that makes America a superpower.

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                            dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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                            #135

                            Maybe they just never trusted America in the first place!

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                            • A arankays@lemmy.ca

                              Canada needs a nuke now more than ever. Build it. And any time the orange fuckhead threatens annexation load it up in the silo.

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                              dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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                              Might need more than one but you got the spirit

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                              • quick_snail@feddit.nlQ quick_snail@feddit.nl

                                I’ve noticed a lot of stupid people say a lot of stupid stuff in my life, yes

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                                dom@lemmy.ca
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                                #137

                                Lol you’re one to talk.

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                                • J joeffect@lemmy.world

                                  This might put some of it into a better perspective…

                                  You would be amazed at how easily you can be manipulated…

                                  You will probably sit there and say not me never, but you probably have been manipulated and tricked into thinking differently and didn’t even realize it…

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                                  matlag
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                                  #138

                                  And you’ve been graceully and entirely missing the point of my comment. So maybe you should wonder what state of mind you’re in right now?

                                  It looks to me that you’re more here to push a narrative about manipulation than discussing the topic.

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                                    Galactose
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                                    It took you guys this long ??

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                                    • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                      Like Ah-bout… “bout” pronounced like a fight between two people.

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                                      burntwits@sh.itjust.works
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                                      Yeah that’s the same up here for most folks I know.

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                                      • R rakonat@lemmy.world

                                        We Minnesotans are hoping to be annexed by Canada

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                                        hugenerd@lemmy.ca
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                                        I’ll annex you if you have good cheap real estate and some big farm girls.

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                                        • B burntwits@sh.itjust.works

                                          I never understood this stereotype (aboot vs about). I’m Canadian, lived here all my life, my family is all Canadian and all have lived here all their lives. I’ve got family all across the country, from the western coast of BC to the eastern coast of Newfoundland, from the northern stretches of Nunavut to the most southern tip of Ontario, and very rarely have I ever heard it pronounced that way. It’s actually really funny as a Canadian to look up “how to speak like a Canadian” and watch how awful most of the “tips” are. I’d recommend it.

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                                          hugenerd@lemmy.ca
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                                          It’s harder to make a joke with zed vs zee.

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