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6 in 10 Canadians say they can never trust Americans the same way again

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  • M m0darn@lemmy.ca

    From Mary Poppins:

    Though we adore them individually, we agree that as a group they’re rather stupid.

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    zetta@mander.xyz
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    #116

    Haha, I’m stealing this to describe religious people

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    • D drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world

      Could have just not had the war…

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      merc@sh.itjust.works
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      Well, for that you’d have to talk to a certain English colonist named “George Washington”.

      During a time when the English and French were technically at peace, this “Washington” fellow, a Lieutenant Colonel in the Virginia Regiment, ambushed a French detachment of 50 men, killing them all, including their commander who had been carrying a diplomatic message for the British.

      This “Washington” fellow was a real fuck-up. Not only did he kick off the French and Indian war (also known as the 7 years war) by ambushing and killing a diplomatic courier during a time of peace, he then holed up in a fort which the French attacked and then he surrendered. When he surrendered, he signed a surrender document in which he took responsibility for assassinating Jumonville, the diplomatic courier.

      This dude continued to fuck up too. He resigned his commission after this because as a colonial, he wasn’t allowed to have the rank he thought he deserved. A year later, he signed on as an aide to General Edward Braddock, who was planning to expel the French from Fort Duquesne. Washington came up with the master plan of splitting the army into a main column and a second smaller “flying column”. The French and their native allies ambushed the divided army and killed 2/3 of them, including General Braddock.

      After a series of mistakes like that, I can only assume this guy faded into obscurity, forgotten as yet another failed son of a rich aristocrat. History is full of rich children like that who think they can play at “army” but who just keep screwing up.

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      • TonyOstrichT TonyOstrich

        Not that I’m trying to pawn off our responsibilities, but I think part of that change needs to come from the rest of the world putting us in our place. Quit bending the knee and letting us get away with murder. Sanction our asses.

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        freshparsnip@lemmy.ca
        wrote on last edited by freshparsnip@lemmy.ca
        #118

        Cuba is illegal in the Untied States. All other countries should outlaw the Untied States, make it illegal to go there and illegal to possess anything made there, until the Untied States behaves itself.

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        • nightowl@lemmy.caN nightowl@lemmy.ca
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          bc_viper@lemmy.world
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          #119

          Every American is the enemy. Unless they deal.with their leader.

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          • J joeffect@lemmy.world

            This is exactly what they want to happen… most people are not actually bad people, they want better standards of living just like you and everyone else.

            Some people are terrible and racists… but most people are tired of struggling and the rich getting richer… they just want their jobs back and to do what they are used to doing… they want to be okay because everything is fucked up…

            They are being lied to, you are being lied to… everyone is being lied to…

            Not everyone has forgotten their humanity, the people in control who want you to believe so, are the ones that keep telling you that they have

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            matlag
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            #120

            No matter how good a person could be, I wouldn’t trust them if they are easily manipulated in believing BS. I won’t hate them, but I won’t trust them.

            Anyone with an bit of judgement could see what Trump was. And yet he was elected. Twice!

            So all these “good people” have cpntributed to elect a fascist twice already. You want me to trust they won’t elect another one after him? That this is a two times mistake and Canadians can rely on the US after that?

            Nope.

            Maybe they were lied to about Trump. They will be lied to again by others about other fascists.

            You can blame education, oligarchs propaganda, whatever. Point is: Canada can’t rely on the USA, even if Trump goes away.

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            • tonytonychopper@mander.xyzT tonytonychopper@mander.xyz

              Over half of the voters support what the government is doing. The US is cooked

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              soulg@ani.social
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              #121

              Yeah and the voters are less than half of the population

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              • M m0darn@lemmy.ca

                From Mary Poppins:

                Though we adore them individually, we agree that as a group they’re rather stupid.

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                That Weird Vegan
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                #122

                from MIB:

                A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it.

                Yours is more eloquent though.

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                • merc@sh.itjust.worksM merc@sh.itjust.works

                  Well, for that you’d have to talk to a certain English colonist named “George Washington”.

                  During a time when the English and French were technically at peace, this “Washington” fellow, a Lieutenant Colonel in the Virginia Regiment, ambushed a French detachment of 50 men, killing them all, including their commander who had been carrying a diplomatic message for the British.

                  This “Washington” fellow was a real fuck-up. Not only did he kick off the French and Indian war (also known as the 7 years war) by ambushing and killing a diplomatic courier during a time of peace, he then holed up in a fort which the French attacked and then he surrendered. When he surrendered, he signed a surrender document in which he took responsibility for assassinating Jumonville, the diplomatic courier.

                  This dude continued to fuck up too. He resigned his commission after this because as a colonial, he wasn’t allowed to have the rank he thought he deserved. A year later, he signed on as an aide to General Edward Braddock, who was planning to expel the French from Fort Duquesne. Washington came up with the master plan of splitting the army into a main column and a second smaller “flying column”. The French and their native allies ambushed the divided army and killed 2/3 of them, including General Braddock.

                  After a series of mistakes like that, I can only assume this guy faded into obscurity, forgotten as yet another failed son of a rich aristocrat. History is full of rich children like that who think they can play at “army” but who just keep screwing up.

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                  drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
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                  #123

                  And the British crown did not hang the British officer?

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                    arankays@lemmy.ca
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                    #124

                    Canada needs a nuke now more than ever. Build it. And any time the orange fuckhead threatens annexation load it up in the silo.

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                      Lladra
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                      #125

                      Seems low.

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                      • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                        Do Canadians say “left-tenent” like Brits?

                        Also, asking someone to spell that word is a pretty tall order lol

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                        thefool@sh.itjust.works
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                        #126

                        The Canadian army says leftenant like the Brits, yes

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                        • O octopusnemeses@lemmy.world

                          It’s not ending any time soon. The US supreme court will remain a theocratic conservative majority for most of our lives. Regardless of how old you are. You will be quite old by the time that changes.

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                          thatkamguy@sh.itjust.works
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                          #127

                          A brave-enough Congress could overhaul the Supreme Court, as they had in the past.

                          Unfortunately that level of courage is missing from most current politicians.

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                          • F freshparsnip@lemmy.ca

                            After this nightmare is over, the Untied States need a complete overhaul

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                            thatkamguy@sh.itjust.works
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                            #128

                            Balkanisation might honestly be the only solution; but that would involve the US giving up its current position as the only remaining global superpower.

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                              rakonat@lemmy.world
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                              #129

                              As an American, the other 4 out of 10 must be idiots. GOP is on a mission to destroy everything that makes America a superpower.

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                              • B bc_viper@lemmy.world

                                Every American is the enemy. Unless they deal.with their leader.

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                                rakonat@lemmy.world
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                                #130

                                We Minnesotans are hoping to be annexed by Canada

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                                • thatweirdguy1001@lemmy.worldT thatweirdguy1001@lemmy.world

                                  I hate that I’m lumped in with these people but I also understand.

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                                  darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
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                                  #131

                                  Individuals are to be assessed and judged individually based on their own merit; but trust in the collective, particularly of those in a position of power has eroded so enormously that the ‘benefit of the doubt’ is lost.

                                  There’s no choice but to assume the worst will happen; because of this, I will NEVER live in America. It will be a long long time before I even consider visiting, and for the foreseeable future I will continue to make an effort to not buy American products.

                                  I’ve been removing American tech companies from my life over the last 5-10years, but I’ve been stepping up those efforts more recently and this is only more encouragement.

                                  I’m lumped in with these people

                                  Maybe at first glance, but first impressions aren’t everything. Everyone deserves a chance; keep your chin up m8. I wish you the best of luck in this crazy world. 🇨🇦

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                                  • D drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world

                                    And the British crown did not hang the British officer?

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                                    merc@sh.itjust.works
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                                    #132

                                    They probably should have. It might have changed history a bit if they had.

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                                    • B beejboytyson@lemmy.world

                                      You know Canadians burn down the white house, right? And the first nation people were the one that led the atk? Right?

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                                      mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca
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                                      #133

                                      That’s one of my favorite facts about the long storied history between Canada and the USA.

                                      Ha ha.

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                                      • M matlag

                                        No matter how good a person could be, I wouldn’t trust them if they are easily manipulated in believing BS. I won’t hate them, but I won’t trust them.

                                        Anyone with an bit of judgement could see what Trump was. And yet he was elected. Twice!

                                        So all these “good people” have cpntributed to elect a fascist twice already. You want me to trust they won’t elect another one after him? That this is a two times mistake and Canadians can rely on the US after that?

                                        Nope.

                                        Maybe they were lied to about Trump. They will be lied to again by others about other fascists.

                                        You can blame education, oligarchs propaganda, whatever. Point is: Canada can’t rely on the USA, even if Trump goes away.

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                                        joeffect@lemmy.world
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                                        #134

                                        This might put some of it into a better perspective…

                                        You would be amazed at how easily you can be manipulated…

                                        You will probably sit there and say not me never, but you probably have been manipulated and tricked into thinking differently and didn’t even realize it…

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                                        • R rakonat@lemmy.world

                                          As an American, the other 4 out of 10 must be idiots. GOP is on a mission to destroy everything that makes America a superpower.

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                                          dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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                                          #135

                                          Maybe they just never trusted America in the first place!

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