Thanks DnD
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wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad
charisma is selling salsa
You went a few steps too far.
Charisma is your ability to sell a tomato based fruit salad
Wouldn’t that be Salsa?
Guys, I found the bard!
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I have never seen Intelligence contrasted with Wisdom in a way that felt fitting. Does an intelligent person not know when not to speak?
High intelligence low wisdom turns you into an unskippable cutscene of deep exposition.
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One of the things I liked about the Chronicles of Darkness system is it cleared this up nicely. Stats were in a 3x3 grid.
One axis was physical, mental, social
The other was Power, Finesse, Resistance.
Want to shove something? Physical + Power. That’s strength.
Want to figure out a riddle? Mental + Finesse. That’s
DexterityWits. (Edit: wrote dexterity originally, meant Wits)Command attention? Social + Power. That’s the Presence stat.
Lie and misdirect? Social + Finesse. Stat was called Manipulation.
Now you can have a character that’s commanding without also being a natural liar and flirt. DND doesn’t help let you do that because the concepts are bundled together into a single stat.
(You could invest separately into like Expression for making speeches and Deception for lying, of course)
Humans are rated 1 to 5, where a 5 is the peak of human capability. Presence 5 is like AAA movie stars and great leaders.
Of course, if you add supernaturals to your game a starting chump vampire could have seven presence if they take Majesty as their power, and become a nearly irresistible magnet of attention.
Want to figure out a riddle? Mental + Finesse. That’s Dexterity.
Wait, wouldn’t it make sense to figure out a riddle with Intelligence? And for Dexterity to be Physical + Finesse?
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i like how according to this everyone just has a big stick stowed away somehere
edit: wait now that i looked again, those are the exact stats for a fist in pf2e if you were level 0 and trained in unarmed attacks
assuming dnd fists work similarly, why didn’t they just put in a fist instead of a club?
I mean, plenty of people might be walking around with something roughly stick-shaped. Be it a broom, a shovel or an umbrella, it’s all a more effective weapon than bare hands
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Want to figure out a riddle? Mental + Finesse. That’s Dexterity.
Wait, wouldn’t it make sense to figure out a riddle with Intelligence? And for Dexterity to be Physical + Finesse?
Riddles are often lateral thinking or other cleverness, so they seem more finesse than power. But yes, I wrote “dexterity” when I meant “Wits”.
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Riddles are often lateral thinking or other cleverness, so they seem more finesse than power. But yes, I wrote “dexterity” when I meant “Wits”.
I may be dating myself as an older weeb with this reference, but Osaka from Azumanga was not what you’d consider intelligent, but she got riddles instantly because she just thought weird.
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!keming@lemmy.world
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jpegging a pdf will do that for you
I hate it when I be jpegging my pdf in hospital then her doc walks in on us
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Those are SO not in the order I remember back when I used to pay.
It was:
STR
INT
WIS
DEX
CON
CHA.As an added bonus, I remember the coin on the character sheets as being:
Gold
Silver
Copper
Platinum
ElectrumProbably helps to know I played in the late 70’s when campaigns like Keep on the Borderlands was a new thing and came in a box.
I think it was 3e that changed it so that the stats are grouped as physical, then mental. And decimalized the coinage, for that matter.
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Because DnD fists do 1 + STR damage, no dice at all.
oh i did not know that. thx
