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    I recently had a chance to ask a question to one of the top AI people. At a Q&A session, I raised my hand and asked simply "What is your estimation of the future educational value of AI?"

    The response was swift and utterly devastating for those laggards who want to hold back progress. The AI guy said:

    Books will soon be obsolete in schools. Scholars will be instructed through AI. It is possible to teach every branch of human knowledge with AI. Our school system will be completely changed inside of ten years.

    We have been working for some time on educational AI. It proves conclusively the worth of AI in chemistry, physics and other branches of study, making the scientific truths, difficult to understand from text books, plain and clear to children.

    That's it. We can throw away all those outdated paper books. Children will learn directly from an AI which, coincidentally, is sold by the company. We can trust their studies on such matters and be assured that they have no ulterior motive.

    But, ah my friends, I have told a slight untruth. I didn't ask that question. Frederick James Smith asked the question to Thomas Edison in 1913. The question was about the new and exciting world of motion pictures.

    Scan of old newsprint. "What is your estimation of the future educationalvalue of pictures?" I asked." Books." declared the inventor with decision, " will soon be obsolete in the public schools. Scholars will be instructed through the eye. It is possible to teach every branch of human knowledge with the motion picture. Our school system will be completely changed inside of ten years. " We have been working for some time on the school pictures. We have been studying and reproducing the life of the fly. mosquito, silk weaving moth, brown moth, gypsy moth, butterflies, scale and various other insects, as well as chemical cbrystallization. It proves conclusively the worth of motion pictures in chemistry, physics and other branches of study, making the scientific truths, difficult to understand from text books, plain and clear to children

    You can read the full exchange from The New York Dramatic Mirror.

    A hundred-plus years since the great and humble Edison made his prediction and… books are still used in schools! Those of us of a certain age remember a TV occasionally being wheeled in for one lesson or another. Today's kids watch more video content than ever - of mixed quality - but still rely on books and teachers.

    Videos are good for some aspects of learning, but woefully inadequate for others.

    I'm not trying to say that just because one technology failed, so will all others. But it is amazing how AI-proponents are recycling the same arguments with basically the same timescale. Will AI be part of education? Sure! Just like videos, pocket computers, the Metaverse, and performance enhancing drugs.

    Will it be the only tool ever needed for education? I doubt it. Will vested interests and uncritical journalists continue to boost it? You don't need to have read many history books to work out the answer.

    Further reading: In the Future All Food Will Be Cooked in a Microwave, and if You Can’t Deal With That Then You Need to Get Out of the Kitchen

    #AI #education #history #schools

    Tarmo ThorstrƶmT Speed demon šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡ŗ šŸ‡³šŸ‡“šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡¦šŸ‡µšŸ‡øH xinit ā˜•X Stephen J. AndersonU JimmyJ 5 Replies Last reply
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      Books will soon be obsolete in school

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      Terence Eden’s Blog (shkspr.mobi)

      I recently had a chance to ask a question to one of the top AI people. At a Q&A session, I raised my hand and asked simply "What is your estimation of the future educational value of AI?"

      The response was swift and utterly devastating for those laggards who want to hold back progress. The AI guy said:

      Books will soon be obsolete in schools. Scholars will be instructed through AI. It is possible to teach every branch of human knowledge with AI. Our school system will be completely changed inside of ten years.

      We have been working for some time on educational AI. It proves conclusively the worth of AI in chemistry, physics and other branches of study, making the scientific truths, difficult to understand from text books, plain and clear to children.

      That's it. We can throw away all those outdated paper books. Children will learn directly from an AI which, coincidentally, is sold by the company. We can trust their studies on such matters and be assured that they have no ulterior motive.

      But, ah my friends, I have told a slight untruth. I didn't ask that question. Frederick James Smith asked the question to Thomas Edison in 1913. The question was about the new and exciting world of motion pictures.

      Scan of old newsprint. "What is your estimation of the future educationalvalue of pictures?" I asked." Books." declared the inventor with decision, " will soon be obsolete in the public schools. Scholars will be instructed through the eye. It is possible to teach every branch of human knowledge with the motion picture. Our school system will be completely changed inside of ten years. " We have been working for some time on the school pictures. We have been studying and reproducing the life of the fly. mosquito, silk weaving moth, brown moth, gypsy moth, butterflies, scale and various other insects, as well as chemical cbrystallization. It proves conclusively the worth of motion pictures in chemistry, physics and other branches of study, making the scientific truths, difficult to understand from text books, plain and clear to children

      You can read the full exchange from The New York Dramatic Mirror.

      A hundred-plus years since the great and humble Edison made his prediction and… books are still used in schools! Those of us of a certain age remember a TV occasionally being wheeled in for one lesson or another. Today's kids watch more video content than ever - of mixed quality - but still rely on books and teachers.

      Videos are good for some aspects of learning, but woefully inadequate for others.

      I'm not trying to say that just because one technology failed, so will all others. But it is amazing how AI-proponents are recycling the same arguments with basically the same timescale. Will AI be part of education? Sure! Just like videos, pocket computers, the Metaverse, and performance enhancing drugs.

      Will it be the only tool ever needed for education? I doubt it. Will vested interests and uncritical journalists continue to boost it? You don't need to have read many history books to work out the answer.

      Further reading: In the Future All Food Will Be Cooked in a Microwave, and if You Can’t Deal With That Then You Need to Get Out of the Kitchen

      #AI #education #history #schools

      Tarmo ThorstrƶmT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @blog naturally none of those who gospel for the use of AI in education have any degree or studies in pedagogy. As a technologically oriented professional class teacher (Master of Arts, Education) I can easily tell how false and empty these AI fantasies are.

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      • Terence Eden’s BlogB Terence Eden’s Blog

        Books will soon be obsolete in school

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        Books will soon be obsolete in school

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        Terence Eden’s Blog (shkspr.mobi)

        I recently had a chance to ask a question to one of the top AI people. At a Q&A session, I raised my hand and asked simply "What is your estimation of the future educational value of AI?"

        The response was swift and utterly devastating for those laggards who want to hold back progress. The AI guy said:

        Books will soon be obsolete in schools. Scholars will be instructed through AI. It is possible to teach every branch of human knowledge with AI. Our school system will be completely changed inside of ten years.

        We have been working for some time on educational AI. It proves conclusively the worth of AI in chemistry, physics and other branches of study, making the scientific truths, difficult to understand from text books, plain and clear to children.

        That's it. We can throw away all those outdated paper books. Children will learn directly from an AI which, coincidentally, is sold by the company. We can trust their studies on such matters and be assured that they have no ulterior motive.

        But, ah my friends, I have told a slight untruth. I didn't ask that question. Frederick James Smith asked the question to Thomas Edison in 1913. The question was about the new and exciting world of motion pictures.

        Scan of old newsprint. "What is your estimation of the future educationalvalue of pictures?" I asked." Books." declared the inventor with decision, " will soon be obsolete in the public schools. Scholars will be instructed through the eye. It is possible to teach every branch of human knowledge with the motion picture. Our school system will be completely changed inside of ten years. " We have been working for some time on the school pictures. We have been studying and reproducing the life of the fly. mosquito, silk weaving moth, brown moth, gypsy moth, butterflies, scale and various other insects, as well as chemical cbrystallization. It proves conclusively the worth of motion pictures in chemistry, physics and other branches of study, making the scientific truths, difficult to understand from text books, plain and clear to children

        You can read the full exchange from The New York Dramatic Mirror.

        A hundred-plus years since the great and humble Edison made his prediction and… books are still used in schools! Those of us of a certain age remember a TV occasionally being wheeled in for one lesson or another. Today's kids watch more video content than ever - of mixed quality - but still rely on books and teachers.

        Videos are good for some aspects of learning, but woefully inadequate for others.

        I'm not trying to say that just because one technology failed, so will all others. But it is amazing how AI-proponents are recycling the same arguments with basically the same timescale. Will AI be part of education? Sure! Just like videos, pocket computers, the Metaverse, and performance enhancing drugs.

        Will it be the only tool ever needed for education? I doubt it. Will vested interests and uncritical journalists continue to boost it? You don't need to have read many history books to work out the answer.

        Further reading: In the Future All Food Will Be Cooked in a Microwave, and if You Can’t Deal With That Then You Need to Get Out of the Kitchen

        #AI #education #history #schools

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        Speed demon šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡ŗ šŸ‡³šŸ‡“šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡¦šŸ‡µšŸ‡ø
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        @blog
        AI: Hello Class
        Class: Hello Teach
        AI: Now, for this chemistry class ...
        Class: NO! this is Culinary Arts!
        AI: ok the ingredients we have are Carbon, KMnO4, some lead pipes ... We'll cook something that can throw a punch!

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        • Terence Eden’s BlogB Terence Eden’s Blog

          Books will soon be obsolete in school

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          Books will soon be obsolete in school

          Regular nonsense about tech and its effects šŸ™ƒ

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          Terence Eden’s Blog (shkspr.mobi)

          I recently had a chance to ask a question to one of the top AI people. At a Q&A session, I raised my hand and asked simply "What is your estimation of the future educational value of AI?"

          The response was swift and utterly devastating for those laggards who want to hold back progress. The AI guy said:

          Books will soon be obsolete in schools. Scholars will be instructed through AI. It is possible to teach every branch of human knowledge with AI. Our school system will be completely changed inside of ten years.

          We have been working for some time on educational AI. It proves conclusively the worth of AI in chemistry, physics and other branches of study, making the scientific truths, difficult to understand from text books, plain and clear to children.

          That's it. We can throw away all those outdated paper books. Children will learn directly from an AI which, coincidentally, is sold by the company. We can trust their studies on such matters and be assured that they have no ulterior motive.

          But, ah my friends, I have told a slight untruth. I didn't ask that question. Frederick James Smith asked the question to Thomas Edison in 1913. The question was about the new and exciting world of motion pictures.

          Scan of old newsprint. "What is your estimation of the future educationalvalue of pictures?" I asked." Books." declared the inventor with decision, " will soon be obsolete in the public schools. Scholars will be instructed through the eye. It is possible to teach every branch of human knowledge with the motion picture. Our school system will be completely changed inside of ten years. " We have been working for some time on the school pictures. We have been studying and reproducing the life of the fly. mosquito, silk weaving moth, brown moth, gypsy moth, butterflies, scale and various other insects, as well as chemical cbrystallization. It proves conclusively the worth of motion pictures in chemistry, physics and other branches of study, making the scientific truths, difficult to understand from text books, plain and clear to children

          You can read the full exchange from The New York Dramatic Mirror.

          A hundred-plus years since the great and humble Edison made his prediction and… books are still used in schools! Those of us of a certain age remember a TV occasionally being wheeled in for one lesson or another. Today's kids watch more video content than ever - of mixed quality - but still rely on books and teachers.

          Videos are good for some aspects of learning, but woefully inadequate for others.

          I'm not trying to say that just because one technology failed, so will all others. But it is amazing how AI-proponents are recycling the same arguments with basically the same timescale. Will AI be part of education? Sure! Just like videos, pocket computers, the Metaverse, and performance enhancing drugs.

          Will it be the only tool ever needed for education? I doubt it. Will vested interests and uncritical journalists continue to boost it? You don't need to have read many history books to work out the answer.

          Further reading: In the Future All Food Will Be Cooked in a Microwave, and if You Can’t Deal With That Then You Need to Get Out of the Kitchen

          #AI #education #history #schools

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          @blog Sneaky lead-in šŸ˜„

          I do consider AI more of a threat that TV and video lessons since AI has such complete buy-in from basically all the big tech companies. They make it on-by-default (even in educational versions) and hard to disable, so it can be more insidious than a video lecture.

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          • Terence Eden’s BlogB Terence Eden’s Blog

            Books will soon be obsolete in school

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            Books will soon be obsolete in school

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            Terence Eden’s Blog (shkspr.mobi)

            I recently had a chance to ask a question to one of the top AI people. At a Q&A session, I raised my hand and asked simply "What is your estimation of the future educational value of AI?"

            The response was swift and utterly devastating for those laggards who want to hold back progress. The AI guy said:

            Books will soon be obsolete in schools. Scholars will be instructed through AI. It is possible to teach every branch of human knowledge with AI. Our school system will be completely changed inside of ten years.

            We have been working for some time on educational AI. It proves conclusively the worth of AI in chemistry, physics and other branches of study, making the scientific truths, difficult to understand from text books, plain and clear to children.

            That's it. We can throw away all those outdated paper books. Children will learn directly from an AI which, coincidentally, is sold by the company. We can trust their studies on such matters and be assured that they have no ulterior motive.

            But, ah my friends, I have told a slight untruth. I didn't ask that question. Frederick James Smith asked the question to Thomas Edison in 1913. The question was about the new and exciting world of motion pictures.

            Scan of old newsprint. "What is your estimation of the future educationalvalue of pictures?" I asked." Books." declared the inventor with decision, " will soon be obsolete in the public schools. Scholars will be instructed through the eye. It is possible to teach every branch of human knowledge with the motion picture. Our school system will be completely changed inside of ten years. " We have been working for some time on the school pictures. We have been studying and reproducing the life of the fly. mosquito, silk weaving moth, brown moth, gypsy moth, butterflies, scale and various other insects, as well as chemical cbrystallization. It proves conclusively the worth of motion pictures in chemistry, physics and other branches of study, making the scientific truths, difficult to understand from text books, plain and clear to children

            You can read the full exchange from The New York Dramatic Mirror.

            A hundred-plus years since the great and humble Edison made his prediction and… books are still used in schools! Those of us of a certain age remember a TV occasionally being wheeled in for one lesson or another. Today's kids watch more video content than ever - of mixed quality - but still rely on books and teachers.

            Videos are good for some aspects of learning, but woefully inadequate for others.

            I'm not trying to say that just because one technology failed, so will all others. But it is amazing how AI-proponents are recycling the same arguments with basically the same timescale. Will AI be part of education? Sure! Just like videos, pocket computers, the Metaverse, and performance enhancing drugs.

            Will it be the only tool ever needed for education? I doubt it. Will vested interests and uncritical journalists continue to boost it? You don't need to have read many history books to work out the answer.

            Further reading: In the Future All Food Will Be Cooked in a Microwave, and if You Can’t Deal With That Then You Need to Get Out of the Kitchen

            #AI #education #history #schools

            Stephen J. AndersonU This user is from outside of this forum
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            @blog Makes me think about this Veritasium talk (ā€œWhat Everyone Gets Wrong About AI and Learningā€), which is ā€œNo Silver Bulletā€, but for education.

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            • Terence Eden’s BlogB Terence Eden’s Blog

              Books will soon be obsolete in school

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              Terence Eden’s Blog (shkspr.mobi)

              I recently had a chance to ask a question to one of the top AI people. At a Q&A session, I raised my hand and asked simply "What is your estimation of the future educational value of AI?"

              The response was swift and utterly devastating for those laggards who want to hold back progress. The AI guy said:

              Books will soon be obsolete in schools. Scholars will be instructed through AI. It is possible to teach every branch of human knowledge with AI. Our school system will be completely changed inside of ten years.

              We have been working for some time on educational AI. It proves conclusively the worth of AI in chemistry, physics and other branches of study, making the scientific truths, difficult to understand from text books, plain and clear to children.

              That's it. We can throw away all those outdated paper books. Children will learn directly from an AI which, coincidentally, is sold by the company. We can trust their studies on such matters and be assured that they have no ulterior motive.

              But, ah my friends, I have told a slight untruth. I didn't ask that question. Frederick James Smith asked the question to Thomas Edison in 1913. The question was about the new and exciting world of motion pictures.

              Scan of old newsprint. "What is your estimation of the future educationalvalue of pictures?" I asked." Books." declared the inventor with decision, " will soon be obsolete in the public schools. Scholars will be instructed through the eye. It is possible to teach every branch of human knowledge with the motion picture. Our school system will be completely changed inside of ten years. " We have been working for some time on the school pictures. We have been studying and reproducing the life of the fly. mosquito, silk weaving moth, brown moth, gypsy moth, butterflies, scale and various other insects, as well as chemical cbrystallization. It proves conclusively the worth of motion pictures in chemistry, physics and other branches of study, making the scientific truths, difficult to understand from text books, plain and clear to children

              You can read the full exchange from The New York Dramatic Mirror.

              A hundred-plus years since the great and humble Edison made his prediction and… books are still used in schools! Those of us of a certain age remember a TV occasionally being wheeled in for one lesson or another. Today's kids watch more video content than ever - of mixed quality - but still rely on books and teachers.

              Videos are good for some aspects of learning, but woefully inadequate for others.

              I'm not trying to say that just because one technology failed, so will all others. But it is amazing how AI-proponents are recycling the same arguments with basically the same timescale. Will AI be part of education? Sure! Just like videos, pocket computers, the Metaverse, and performance enhancing drugs.

              Will it be the only tool ever needed for education? I doubt it. Will vested interests and uncritical journalists continue to boost it? You don't need to have read many history books to work out the answer.

              Further reading: In the Future All Food Will Be Cooked in a Microwave, and if You Can’t Deal With That Then You Need to Get Out of the Kitchen

              #AI #education #history #schools

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              @blog All those hard copy books will all be replaced by easy-to-edit AI.

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                @blog All those hard copy books will all be replaced by easy-to-edit AI.

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                @blog And all those expensive and opinionated teachers will be replaced with compliant AI.

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                • Tarmo ThorstrƶmT Tarmo Thorstrƶm

                  @blog naturally none of those who gospel for the use of AI in education have any degree or studies in pedagogy. As a technologically oriented professional class teacher (Master of Arts, Education) I can easily tell how false and empty these AI fantasies are.

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                  @tarmot @blog you’d think, but my biggest gripes as of lately is with those people specifically, using LLM teaching agents to position themselves better internally.

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