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  • BeauM Beau

    @d1 @Ashedryden is that an issue for chat, though? i got voice calls down great, its the roles and level of categorization over messages is what i miss often

    DustyD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #51

    @mochabeau @Ashedryden well, maybe #Zulip? Or #DeltaChat, if you really want end-to-end encryption of group chats (but no control of roles)? #XMPP also has good group delegation, but the #OMEMO encryption can have less reliable delivery in groups, with various members disappearing for spells of time.

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    • BeauM Beau

      @d1 @Ashedryden is that an issue for chat, though? i got voice calls down great, its the roles and level of categorization over messages is what i miss often

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      #52

      @mochabeau @Ashedryden as to teamspeak, I would personally try to find something #OpenSource

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      • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

        Two things:
        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

        Pam CP This user is from outside of this forum
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        #53

        @Ashedryden You can still chat by typing without the video on IRC.

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        • Koen Hufkens, PhDK Koen Hufkens, PhD

          @Ashedryden Someone should make a biometric randomization app already, which takes your likeness and then change the core face metrics randomly.

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          wrote last edited by
          #54

          @koen_hufkens @Ashedryden bio-obfuscation, basically a deepfake where the end face is ai generated.

          A pretty good idea.
          The hardest part is doing it in a undetectable way (catching the camera feed and changing it before it reaches the requesting app)

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          • retechR retech

            @Ashedryden What protections do we have as users? None. I'll willingly go into the dark over this. Eventually I'll have to use pigeons and smoke signals to communicate with the world.

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            #55

            @retech @Ashedryden

            Can't rely on pigeons either...

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            • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

              Two things:
              1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

              2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

              Bill HalcyonB This user is from outside of this forum
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              Bill Halcyon
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              #56

              @Ashedryden

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              • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                Two things:
                1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                #57

                @Ashedryden @wellingtonrock @verge

                My initial feeling that someone simply wants to kill such platforms entirely.

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                • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                  Two things:
                  1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                  2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                  Pete Prodoehl 🍕R This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Pete Prodoehl 🍕
                  wrote last edited by
                  #58

                  @Ashedryden It's more likely I'll be giving up the services that require these things.

                  Some will be difficult, of course, but if enough of us do walk away will that have an impact?

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                  • DustyD Dusty

                    @mochabeau @Ashedryden well, maybe #Zulip? Or #DeltaChat, if you really want end-to-end encryption of group chats (but no control of roles)? #XMPP also has good group delegation, but the #OMEMO encryption can have less reliable delivery in groups, with various members disappearing for spells of time.

                    DebacleD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Debacle
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                    #59

                    @d1 @mochabeau @Ashedryden

                    IMHO, #Movim by @movim is pretty good. And it's all standard #XMPP, i.e. no vendor lock-in.

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                    • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                      Two things:
                      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                      The ServitorT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @Ashedryden

                      They already have your ID like 10x over from all the other things you've been forced to give it for and all the public data breaches, so it barely matters anyway for most people.

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                      • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                        Two things:
                        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                        billy joe bowers-8647B This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #61

                        @Ashedryden

                        We already have a two tiered internet with Facebook and Instagram etc.

                        I don't have an account on those things, never will, and I have only used Discord once and will be deleting my account now.

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                        • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                          Two things:
                          1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                          2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                          The Penguin of EvilE This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #62

                          @Ashedryden Finally a legitimate use for AI image generators

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                          • MacCruiskeenM MacCruiskeen

                            @annika @Ashedryden Now, not only do they know you're a dog, they know what breed you are, what kind of kibble you eat, and how often you go out for walkies.

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                            #63

                            @maccruiskeen @annika @Ashedryden Is the age verification in dog years?

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                            • Barry RowlingsonG Barry Rowlingson

                              @maccruiskeen @annika @Ashedryden Is the age verification in dog years?

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                              @geospacedman @maccruiskeen @Ashedryden Yes, hope you're at least 126 dog years old

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                              • DustyD Dusty

                                @mochabeau @Ashedryden well, maybe #Zulip? Or #DeltaChat, if you really want end-to-end encryption of group chats (but no control of roles)? #XMPP also has good group delegation, but the #OMEMO encryption can have less reliable delivery in groups, with various members disappearing for spells of time.

                                BeauM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #65

                                @d1 @Ashedryden the main issue is it must have native apps for mobile, and i need to be able to have roles control channel access, an extensible api for rebuilding the different bots that i use in my discord server, and screensharing. i have tried all those options, and i just haven't found one that meets all the things i need. i would really like to use a FOSS solution, but i feel like ive tried everything.

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                                • DebacleD Debacle

                                  @d1 @mochabeau @Ashedryden

                                  IMHO, #Movim by @movim is pretty good. And it's all standard #XMPP, i.e. no vendor lock-in.

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                                  @debacle @d1 @Ashedryden @movim movim is pretty good from what ive tried, i can say that

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                                  • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                                    @AlSweigart I went to a protest without a phone and realized I couldn’t easily find out when buses come or pay for the fare because everything is so cash averse now

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                                    @Ashedryden @AlSweigart

                                    I’ve been in shops where the staff couldn’t count the cash, so we ended up doing a digital transaction.

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                                    • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                      Two things:
                                      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                                      @Ashedryden
                                      God, I am sooo glad I left when they were swelling, looks like they finally burst.

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                                      • ToddZ ⓋT ToddZ Ⓥ

                                        @retech @Ashedryden

                                        Can't rely on pigeons either...

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        FAQ

                                        They used to be. Until the U.S. Government replaced them with drone replicas designed to spy on the American public. Founded in 1976.

                                        favicon

                                        Birds Aren't Real (birdsarentreal.com)

                                        retechR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #69

                                        @toddz @Ashedryden I know a good bird lawyer.

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                                        • Derick RethansD Derick Rethans

                                          @trashwizard @Ashedryden https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jmzd972leo ← and for some people who did give up their face, it got nicely leaked 😠

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                                          #70

                                          @derickr @trashwizard @Ashedryden Y’all remember the old days, before graphical browsers? We used to run bbs from a 386 with a 2400 baud modem.

                                          BBS is a relatively low cost, simple to install, Pi friendly way to create networks around late stage capitalism. Is a panacea for our ills, no...but you can roll your own discord type system.

                                          I mean, if governments wanted to keep us “safe” from predators, they could start by arresting all of them in government. Else, it’s just a con.

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