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  • HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴H HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴

    @FediTips

    *Translatlation feature does not work*

    Yep, this is correct.
    It is an annoying, IMHO honestly avoidable issue:

    Automatic language detection seems to be an ubiquitous feature on many websites. It should be quite easy to perform in a #Fediverse app or on the PC as well, IMO.
    Afterwards, a pop-up window could appear, e. g.: your post's language is set to English but appears to be in German instead. Would you like to change your language setting? "

    In the...
    @AdrianRiskin @klu9

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    wrote last edited by
    #88

    @FediTips @AdrianRiskin @klu9

    ...meantime, I try doing this manually, but forget from time to time.
    Alas, if I remember correctly, it isn't possible to change the language setting without deleting and reposting, leaving all boosts and replies orphaned.

    Last point: from time to time I enjoy having a post from a language I don't speak automatically translated and get into contact with new people.

    //

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    • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

      p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

      Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

      If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

      JulesA This user is from outside of this forum
      JulesA This user is from outside of this forum
      Jules
      wrote last edited by
      #89

      @FediTips thank you for everything you do. You've probably done more to help more people understand the Fediverse than anyone else out there (and probably more to help the world in general than the person criticising you)

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      • halyihevH halyihev

        @klu9 @FediTips
        I can understand not wanting to see posts in languages you don't know, although as a language nerd myself, I actually love the diversity and find myself thinking things like "I know some German, a little Dutch, and some Old English, I bet I can tease out the general meaning of this news headline in Swedish. Let me give it a shot!"

        JulesA This user is from outside of this forum
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        Jules
        wrote last edited by
        #90

        @FediTips @halyihev I must admit I rather like seeing posts in languages I don't speak at all or in scripts I can't read too - in an odd way it feels nice to be part of a community of people all over the world going about their lives and being reminded that they're out there having experiences I can't understand

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        • halyihevH halyihev

          @klu9 @FediTips
          I can understand not wanting to see posts in languages you don't know, although as a language nerd myself, I actually love the diversity and find myself thinking things like "I know some German, a little Dutch, and some Old English, I bet I can tease out the general meaning of this news headline in Swedish. Let me give it a shot!"

          Stoneface VimesC This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #91

          @halyihev @klu9 @FediTips it's interesting to see how different languages in the same linguistic groups relate to each other too.

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          • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

            p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

            Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

            If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

            DarkSheep ArtsD This user is from outside of this forum
            DarkSheep ArtsD This user is from outside of this forum
            DarkSheep Arts
            wrote last edited by
            #92

            @FediTips

            Jesus Christ, some people need to go outside.

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            • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

              p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

              Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

              If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

              MarjorieRM This user is from outside of this forum
              MarjorieRM This user is from outside of this forum
              MarjorieR
              wrote last edited by
              #93

              @FediTips you are not wrong. Unfortunately there are ignorant people even in the #Fediverse who it seems are quicker to display their ignorance by attacking you rather than expanding their horizons and learning new things.

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              • PiperP Piper

                @FediTips I just glanced through the article to see how you were using the word. You even explained how you were using it and why while acknowledging that other meanings exist. I would give that an A+ for communication. I'm sorry someone decided to be mean to you. I hope one day they learn to chill out and help people instead.

                Bernard SheppardB This user is from outside of this forum
                Bernard SheppardB This user is from outside of this forum
                Bernard Sheppard
                wrote last edited by
                #94

                @FediTips @piper exactly.

                *every* reply in this thread up until yours appears to have latched onto the word algorithm without having bothered reading the article and the very nuanced explanation of why it uses the term algorithm, and what it does, and does not mean.

                The article is as near as possible to perfection as an introduction to the fedi verse can be.

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                • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                  p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                  Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                  If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                  Prof. Rachel Thorn 🍉🇺🇦🏳️‍⚧️🏳️R This user is from outside of this forum
                  Prof. Rachel Thorn 🍉🇺🇦🏳️‍⚧️🏳️R This user is from outside of this forum
                  Prof. Rachel Thorn 🍉🇺🇦🏳️‍⚧️🏳️
                  wrote last edited by
                  #95

                  @FediTips
                  I just want you to know that I really appreciate what you do here. You've been a big help to me, and judging by how often I see your posts boosted, I am not the only one who feels that way!♥️

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                  • Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #96

                    @sotolf @AdrianRiskin @klu9

                    I realise most people probably don't know this, but just in case someone reading this does want to make sure they have the right language setting, they can set their default posting language through the website and this should carry through to the clients.

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                    • HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴H HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴

                      @FediTips @AdrianRiskin @klu9

                      ...meantime, I try doing this manually, but forget from time to time.
                      Alas, if I remember correctly, it isn't possible to change the language setting without deleting and reposting, leaving all boosts and replies orphaned.

                      Last point: from time to time I enjoy having a post from a language I don't speak automatically translated and get into contact with new people.

                      //

                      Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Fedi.Tips
                      wrote last edited by
                      #97

                      @HistoPol @AdrianRiskin @klu9

                      You can set the language to a default for your most common language, and then manually change if you use other languages as well.

                      You can change the language setting by editing if you forget on a particular post 👍

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                      • HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴H HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴

                        @FediTips

                        *Translatlation feature does not work*

                        Yep, this is correct.
                        It is an annoying, IMHO honestly avoidable issue:

                        Automatic language detection seems to be an ubiquitous feature on many websites. It should be quite easy to perform in a #Fediverse app or on the PC as well, IMO.
                        Afterwards, a pop-up window could appear, e. g.: your post's language is set to English but appears to be in German instead. Would you like to change your language setting? "

                        In the...
                        @AdrianRiskin @klu9

                        Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
                        Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
                        Fedi.Tips
                        wrote last edited by
                        #98

                        @HistoPol @AdrianRiskin @klu9

                        "Automatic language detection seems to be an ubiquitous feature on many websites. It should be quite easy to perform in a #Fediverse app or on the PC as well, IMO."

                        There has been automatic language detection on here for many years, it lights up the language button if it thinks you are using the wrong language.

                        The problem is this is a microblogging platform so the posts tend to be very short. At very short lengths the detector is unreliable.

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                        • Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶  #FBPET Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE

                          @FediTips Well, "There is no algorithm on Mastodon" *is* wrong.

                          To a techie an "algorithm" is "a procedure which terminates".

                          In this case we're presumably talking about the algorithm which decides which posts a user sees. Which *does* exist, because the user sees post! - and is described in various places (starting with "you see posts from people you follow" and getting more complicated than that).

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #99

                          @TimWardCam @FediTips Why did I see your avatar when I looked up "pedant" in an online dictionary?

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                          • 🇨🇦🇩🇪🇨🇳张殿李🇨🇳🇩🇪🇨🇦Z 🇨🇦🇩🇪🇨🇳张殿李🇨🇳🇩🇪🇨🇦

                            @TimWardCam @FediTips Why did I see your avatar when I looked up "pedant" in an online dictionary?

                            Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Fedi.Tips
                            wrote last edited by
                            #100

                            @zdl @TimWardCam

                            Let's keep it chilled out and friendly? 🙂

                            Tim is disagreeing with me but he's not making personal remarks or saying anything rude, so there's no need to be personal or rude about him either?

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                            • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                              p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                              Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                              If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                              Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
                              Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
                              Fedi.Tips
                              wrote last edited by
                              #101

                              p.p.s. Thank you so much for all the supportive replies! 🙏 It is very motivating if these guides are helping you 😊

                              Also, thank you to people who disagree with what I write but do so without personal remarks or accusations. Very grateful for you taking the time to make suggestions or corrections or alternative viewpoints.

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                              • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                                p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                                Shaula EvansS This user is from outside of this forum
                                Shaula EvansS This user is from outside of this forum
                                Shaula Evans
                                wrote last edited by
                                #102

                                @FediTips I appreciate so much all the work you put in to make people feel welcome here and help them find their way. Thank you.

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                                • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                                  p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                  Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                  If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                                  TimoT This user is from outside of this forum
                                  TimoT This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Timo
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #103

                                  @FediTips thanks for your posts. I've referred your material to new users multiple times. Thanks again.

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                                  • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                                    p.p.s. Thank you so much for all the supportive replies! 🙏 It is very motivating if these guides are helping you 😊

                                    Also, thank you to people who disagree with what I write but do so without personal remarks or accusations. Very grateful for you taking the time to make suggestions or corrections or alternative viewpoints.

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                                    Ramnarayan Kalyanaraman
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #104

                                    @FediTips

                                    Thank you

                                    Your tips have what has made it easy for me to navigate the fediverse, there are places i would not have know or tips I would not have read if not for your work. Once again grateful thanks

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                                    • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                                      @HistoPol @AdrianRiskin @klu9

                                      You can set the language to a default for your most common language, and then manually change if you use other languages as well.

                                      You can change the language setting by editing if you forget on a particular post 👍

                                      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴H This user is from outside of this forum
                                      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴H This user is from outside of this forum
                                      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #105

                                      @FediTips

                                      I know, thx, but that's not what I mean.
                                      I've seen several websites that can auto-detect a language, e. g. GoogleTranslate.

                                      Too many people in the Fediverse are quite unaware that they should a) set their standard language and b) change that setting, if they post in another.

                                      With the improvement I suggested, that could be remedied.
                                      @AdrianRiskin @klu9

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                                      • HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴H HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴

                                        @FediTips

                                        I know, thx, but that's not what I mean.
                                        I've seen several websites that can auto-detect a language, e. g. GoogleTranslate.

                                        Too many people in the Fediverse are quite unaware that they should a) set their standard language and b) change that setting, if they post in another.

                                        With the improvement I suggested, that could be remedied.
                                        @AdrianRiskin @klu9

                                        Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Fedi.Tips
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #106

                                        @HistoPol

                                        There is already a system on Mastodon that does auto-detect your language.

                                        If you use the website interface and type in the wrong language, the language indicator lights up and clicking it suggests which setting you should be using.

                                        The problem with autodetection is that it's unreliable for very short messages, which are very common on microblogging platforms like Mastodon. That's why Mastodon doesn't just have autodetection overruling the user's settings.

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                                        • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                                          p.p.s. Thank you so much for all the supportive replies! 🙏 It is very motivating if these guides are helping you 😊

                                          Also, thank you to people who disagree with what I write but do so without personal remarks or accusations. Very grateful for you taking the time to make suggestions or corrections or alternative viewpoints.

                                          Hi I'm SeanS This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Hi I'm SeanS This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Hi I'm Sean
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #107

                                          @FediTips that sucks, I'm sorry to hear that. We should be civil on here 😓

                                          The work you do here is invaluable!

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