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PSA: I’m turning 55 next month, and there’s an issue with people who got vaccinated for measles around the same time I did as a kid having waning immunity.

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  • John OverholtO John Overholt

    PSA: I’m turning 55 next month, and there’s an issue with people who got vaccinated for measles around the same time I did as a kid having waning immunity. I got tested and it turned out I had no immunity, so I got revaccinated this week. Don’t listen to the science deniers: measles is not a trivial disease if you’re 5 or 55 and we can no longer rely on herd immunity.

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    @overholt

    I'm a young-ish Gen-Xer and found the same last year when I asked my doc for titer tests on a hunch. I wanted to make sure I could get fully vaccinated before RFK Jr. screwed things up too much.

    The reason this is an issue is that up until roughly the 1990s, the childhood MMR vaccine in the US was a single dose. That seemed to be fine, but an outbreak in 1989 revealed that the single dose was inadequate. They subsequently changed the protocol to two doses for children, but never urged older generations to go back for a booster. This hadn't been a serious issue until recently, when coddling of anti-vaxxers destroyed herd immunity and created the conditions for the regional outbreaks we're dealing with now.

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    • John OverholtO John Overholt

      PSA: I’m turning 55 next month, and there’s an issue with people who got vaccinated for measles around the same time I did as a kid having waning immunity. I got tested and it turned out I had no immunity, so I got revaccinated this week. Don’t listen to the science deniers: measles is not a trivial disease if you’re 5 or 55 and we can no longer rely on herd immunity.

      David CroyleC This user is from outside of this forum
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      David Croyle
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      #46

      @overholt I'm a little bit older and recently got an MMR shot/booster.

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      • John OverholtO John Overholt

        PSA: I’m turning 55 next month, and there’s an issue with people who got vaccinated for measles around the same time I did as a kid having waning immunity. I got tested and it turned out I had no immunity, so I got revaccinated this week. Don’t listen to the science deniers: measles is not a trivial disease if you’re 5 or 55 and we can no longer rely on herd immunity.

        IcooIeyI This user is from outside of this forum
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        #47

        @overholt I couldn’t find my childhood vax record when I went back to school at 50 and a titer showed I had immunity to measles and rubella, but not mumps. Got a booster MMR. Also Prevnar for pneumonia.

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        • geolawG geolaw

          @overholt I am in my 50s and last year I got the Shingles vaccine. Does this overlap? Or should I also get tested for measles immunity?

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          @geolaw @overholt Shingles (varicella zoster) and measles (morbillivirus hominis) are different viruses that require different vaccines.

          As FYI, taxonomy-wise, they’re not even in the same kingdom.

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          • John OverholtO John Overholt

            PSA: I’m turning 55 next month, and there’s an issue with people who got vaccinated for measles around the same time I did as a kid having waning immunity. I got tested and it turned out I had no immunity, so I got revaccinated this week. Don’t listen to the science deniers: measles is not a trivial disease if you’re 5 or 55 and we can no longer rely on herd immunity.

            MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
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            #49

            @overholt I've had three, maybe four MMRs for various reasons. No harm in boosting!

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            • Sarah E BourneS Sarah E Bourne

              @overholt The bad news is that I never got MMR vaccines as a child because I actually got the diseases before there were vaccines. The good news is they didn't kill me. The other good news is I had titers done and my immunity is still strong.

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              Lundemo
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              @sbourne @overholt Same here. I was born on the cusp year where they aren’t certain you had all these diseases. I remember having mumps and measles but didn’t know if it was rubella or rubeola so I had the titers done before volunteering at a grade school. Immune to all three.

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              • HeatherC Heather

                @overholt This is really interesting. I'm wondering if anyone who's replied is in the UK? We can't just request vaccines on the NHS, for example I wasn't eligible for a free flu jab this year, but this is something I could look into getting done privately, esp as I have a health plan through work instead of a pay rise 😄

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                @callunavulgaris @overholt I am, flu vaccines are cheap at Boots and various chemists even if you can't get the NHS ones.
                You can get put on a list for more frequent reminders if you have some kind of compromising health condition so it's worth asking GP about it

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                • Mab_813M Mab_813

                  @overholt @geolaw

                  Had shingles last year. Definitely recommend getting vaccinated against it.

                  I suppose it will be less of a problem for younger generations who got vaccinated against chickenpox in the first place?

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                  @Mab_813 @overholt @geolaw yes chickenpox vaccine will protect from shingles when older, as you need to have been infected with the herpesvirus that causes them. Same virus, chicken pox first, shingles later when it comes back out of your spine. Yay.

                  MMR = measles, mumps and rubella. Three entirely different viruses!

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                  • MarianneN Marianne

                    @callunavulgaris @overholt I am, flu vaccines are cheap at Boots and various chemists even if you can't get the NHS ones.
                    You can get put on a list for more frequent reminders if you have some kind of compromising health condition so it's worth asking GP about it

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                    @noodlemaz @overholt Thank you both. I've been trying to get a straight answer from the health plan company as to whether it's covered - the blurb says yes in one place and no in another 🤷 It's worth doing anyway as you say, and if it is covered that's a bonus!

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                    • ☃️A Harker in the Snow☃️A ☃️A Harker in the Snow☃️

                      @CuriousMagpie @overholt

                      I *also* had to get the full MMR series a second time, because my titres showed no immunity. This is so important!

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                      @anathema @CuriousMagpie @overholt did not realize it could lose effectiveness that much, and really not this early in life. Good idea to check out soonish.

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                      • John OverholtO John Overholt

                        PSA: I’m turning 55 next month, and there’s an issue with people who got vaccinated for measles around the same time I did as a kid having waning immunity. I got tested and it turned out I had no immunity, so I got revaccinated this week. Don’t listen to the science deniers: measles is not a trivial disease if you’re 5 or 55 and we can no longer rely on herd immunity.

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                        @overholt I can't get vaccinated here b/c the system claims I'm immune b/c of my age.

                        I continue to mask in public, but still.

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                        • John OverholtO John Overholt

                          PSA: I’m turning 55 next month, and there’s an issue with people who got vaccinated for measles around the same time I did as a kid having waning immunity. I got tested and it turned out I had no immunity, so I got revaccinated this week. Don’t listen to the science deniers: measles is not a trivial disease if you’re 5 or 55 and we can no longer rely on herd immunity.

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                          @overholt happened to me with whooping cough, which turns out to be less fun than it may sound

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                          • Scott Miller 🇺🇦 🇺🇸S Scott Miller 🇺🇦 🇺🇸

                            @geolaw @overholt Shingles (varicella zoster) and measles (morbillivirus hominis) are different viruses that require different vaccines.

                            As FYI, taxonomy-wise, they’re not even in the same kingdom.

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                            geolaw
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                            @scottmiller42 @overholt I got my chickenpox and measles mixed up. My mistake

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                            • John OverholtO John Overholt

                              PSA: I’m turning 55 next month, and there’s an issue with people who got vaccinated for measles around the same time I did as a kid having waning immunity. I got tested and it turned out I had no immunity, so I got revaccinated this week. Don’t listen to the science deniers: measles is not a trivial disease if you’re 5 or 55 and we can no longer rely on herd immunity.

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                              @overholt consider getting the SHINGRIX vaccine for Shingles too, which will also protect you against Ramsay Hunt Syndrome. I had that, you don’t want it. 😊

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                              • John OverholtO John Overholt

                                PSA: I’m turning 55 next month, and there’s an issue with people who got vaccinated for measles around the same time I did as a kid having waning immunity. I got tested and it turned out I had no immunity, so I got revaccinated this week. Don’t listen to the science deniers: measles is not a trivial disease if you’re 5 or 55 and we can no longer rely on herd immunity.

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                                It's not your age, at least that's not the whole story.

                                In your age group, you only got vaccinated once - it was believed to be sufficient back then. Today, there are two measles vaccinations which has been proved to be much better/longer lasting.

                                Still, the result is the same - better get vaccinated one time more often than not!
                                @overholt

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                                • John OverholtO John Overholt

                                  PSA: I’m turning 55 next month, and there’s an issue with people who got vaccinated for measles around the same time I did as a kid having waning immunity. I got tested and it turned out I had no immunity, so I got revaccinated this week. Don’t listen to the science deniers: measles is not a trivial disease if you’re 5 or 55 and we can no longer rely on herd immunity.

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                                  @overholt We looked back through my records recently and discovered there was no record of my MMR, so I got one. (Mom would have been very pregnant with my sister at that point, So it's not shocking it fell through the cracks.)

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                                  • John OverholtO John Overholt

                                    PSA: I’m turning 55 next month, and there’s an issue with people who got vaccinated for measles around the same time I did as a kid having waning immunity. I got tested and it turned out I had no immunity, so I got revaccinated this week. Don’t listen to the science deniers: measles is not a trivial disease if you’re 5 or 55 and we can no longer rely on herd immunity.

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                                    @overholt
                                    Something I learned from a pharmacist (I'm in a cohort just a bit older than you, and was unsure if I'd been vaccinated as a child) is: when in doubt, get the vaccine — an extra dose is not a problem (one extra dose ≠ overvaccination, with many doses of the same vaccine). From CHOP — Children's Hospital of Philadelphia:
                                    https://www.chop.edu/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-safety/other-vaccine-safety-concerns/dosing-safety

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                                    • stevenrayS stevenray

                                      @overholt consider getting the SHINGRIX vaccine for Shingles too, which will also protect you against Ramsay Hunt Syndrome. I had that, you don’t want it. 😊

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                                      @stevenray Already did!

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                                      • John OverholtO John Overholt

                                        PSA: I’m turning 55 next month, and there’s an issue with people who got vaccinated for measles around the same time I did as a kid having waning immunity. I got tested and it turned out I had no immunity, so I got revaccinated this week. Don’t listen to the science deniers: measles is not a trivial disease if you’re 5 or 55 and we can no longer rely on herd immunity.

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                                        @overholt my husband just did that

                                        of all the things we don't need, measles is high on the list!

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                                        • John OverholtO John Overholt

                                          PSA: I’m turning 55 next month, and there’s an issue with people who got vaccinated for measles around the same time I did as a kid having waning immunity. I got tested and it turned out I had no immunity, so I got revaccinated this week. Don’t listen to the science deniers: measles is not a trivial disease if you’re 5 or 55 and we can no longer rely on herd immunity.

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                                          @overholt Got an MMR booster last fall (2024) as well. With overall population vaccination levels being too low to stop outbreaks, the next best option is for those who are vaccinated to ensure their immune response is strong and not waned over multiple decades.

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