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  • Jens FinkhäuserJ Jens Finkhäuser

    @Kirsty @meganmariehart ... that kind of thing.

    On the other hand, I've also insta-blocked people who slid into my mentions with the same kind of language that I see in LinkedIn DMs.

    We're people here. Our passions are part of us. That's what we connect with.

    (I mean me, fair, but it seems to reflect a good part of fedi.)

    David Mitchell :CApride:D This user is from outside of this forum
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    #149

    @meganmariehart @jens @Kirsty

    I manage socials for a performing ensemble and I get similar responses from our pre-concert posts here as I do on FB and Insta. The metrics *look* lower, but almost as many people actually engage. And yes, speaking of interests and passions comes easier in arts perhaps: we share, we inform, we give clips to experience and that can have value in the community beyond driving sales or tickets.

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    • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

      All theaters have websites. I’m not tech-savvy (my husband takes care of that for me), but it seems to me that if you have a website and domain, setting up a Mastodon server can’t be that hard. Perhaps it’s even possible to run it as an outlet only, then they wouldn’t have to deal with moderation. I think every publicly funded entity should have a presence on the Fediverse instead of commercial social media. (Or at least in addition to.) My experimental toot is meant to create an example …
      6/7

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      #150

      @meganmariehart

      I have been proclaiming the same. Mostly toward our elected members of parliament and those in the government. Leave X and setup your own instance on the Fediverse, because on X you have to login to read what they wrote which is a severe threat to democracy. You don’t need that on Mastodon.

      But every organisation should run their own outlet.

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      • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

        BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

        Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

        (edit: Why, you ask? Long thread coming up … 1/7)

        WulfricW This user is from outside of this forum
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        #151

        @meganmariehart

        I could be mistaken, but I see Fediverse interaction as more organic/direct. A post without hashtags is a cross between screaming into the void (low follower count) and addressing an audience (high follower count) with your content ultimately being spread by word of mouth (Boosts). Adding a hashtag would be the equivalent of posting on a bulletin board or presenting to a special interest group. Those who want to know will be able to find your post easier.

        I don't think it's advertisements that are disliked but the unscrupulous use of tracking data and the bombardment of information which we neither asked for nor want. The latter is the primary use-case for "influencers" in my experience.

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        • Kierkegaanks regretfullyK Kierkegaanks regretfully

          @meganmariehart note that in the fediverse, engagement is not a measurement of impact. That is only valid on algorithmic platforms that spray content like a shower of feces over everyone, regardless of susceptibility to the content

          David Mitchell :CApride:D This user is from outside of this forum
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          #152

          @Kierkegaanks

          “algorithmic platforms that spray content like a shower of feces over everyone”

          I’ll keep that phrase handy to pull out in context, it would be a shame to leave such an astute assessment unused.

          @meganmariehart

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          • Renke MeuweseM Renke Meuwese

            @meganmariehart gamification is indeed a huge part of how the social media usage feedback loop works. LinkedIn and Reddit tell me not just how many people interacted with a contribution, but also how many people saw it. I often find those numbers more disheartening than encouraging (500 people saw a post, 0 commented and 10 responded with an emoji reaction?), but to each their own, it could be a useful feature for people that want to know the reach of their information.

            Megan Marie HartM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #153

            @meuwese Funny enough, our theater has traditional paper posters up on the streets for most shows. There are no metrics available for those. (Though I assume the advertising agency makes up some numbers on request, like “50.000 people pass this poster in the train station every day“ or something.) The advantage of posters is that they advertise not only the specific show, but also the theater's presence in the city!

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            • MetalBrawlerM MetalBrawler

              @meganmariehart If you don't add hashtags, you miss the audience that follows a particular hashtag. Those people are potential new subscribers.

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              #154

              @metalbrawler @meganmariehart

              It’s harder to abuse hashtags here, because if you spam hashtags people care about they will just block you without a second thought… but that makes the right hashtags super valuable because you can quickly engage with your specific community.

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              • warzazel⛧W warzazel⛧

                @meganmariehart TL; DR what?

                Megan Marie HartM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #155

                @warzazel Boss people like numbers. Me try make numbers so boss people like Fediverse. 😸

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                • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                  BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                  Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

                  (edit: Why, you ask? Long thread coming up … 1/7)

                  David - Forking MadD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #156

                  @meganmariehart LoL. There's a post that should have been a blog. I get bored with threaded posts and give up. Sorry

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                  • RowinSpeezR RowinSpeez

                    @meganmariehart this is an anti-influencer platform for sure, it requires so much more effort to have minimal reach unless you have a built-in audience. It's very much like real-life organization I guess, where you need to find your audience and help them engage more with you specifically. People don't often stumble upon your content organically unless they have a federated timeline, which is wild and full of dicks.

                    Megan Marie HartM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #157

                    @RowinSpeez Literally! Enabling “Hide media marked as sensitive“ in preferences is a must! 😸

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                    • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                      @jesuisatire Fair! Thanks for the reply! (I’ve been wondering about the reach of a post outside of hashtags, and whether this could be used as an argument to encourage theaters to join the Fediverse. My current theater is on Mastodon but has never used the account!)

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                      @meganmariehart

                      Just consider that a folish monkey is a folish monkey, reading what you wrote but doing as if it didn't ..
                      🙂

                      The distortion in your intent to get an idea of reach, whithout hashtag, is that you went viral. The only thing you can kinda measure now is how many instances you reached. 738 boosts and counting is like the most boosts I've seen so far. You're about to map all the instances that are and being on top of every trending stream.

                      That's anything but normal for a common post.

                      And personally I consider hashtags the most important tool to reach a specific audience, for theaters, artists, craftsman and alike.

                      What we do not have is a maesurement for "prints".
                      Probably the only way would be to say:
                      "Please fav if you see this post!"

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                      • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                        BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                        Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

                        (edit: Why, you ask? Long thread coming up … 1/7)

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                        #159

                        @meganmariehart I’ve seen and I don’t follow you. Boosted by someone in my feed.

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                        • David Mitchell :CApride:D David Mitchell :CApride:

                          @meganmariehart

                          I suspect that the example of .art and other interest/topic based instances could be a good in between place: If a mid to large sized arts funder/coordinator were to spin up an instance so that theatres and artists can have a presence without having to run their own instances, that might help bridge the gap.

                          In the comments I read chatter about the different houses you’ve engaged with: what if there was an opera.de instance (orchester.de or just KlassischeMusik.de)

                          A large enough category with a large enough geography to create internal activity and share the burden of host and moderating but small and local enough to keep a unique character.

                          @jens @Kirsty

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                          @DavidM_yeg That might help! I contacted operabase.com soon after I joined Mastodon, but they have not reacted. I assuem nobody wants to make the first move.

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                          • jeSuisatire  …ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷJ jeSuisatire …ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ

                            @meganmariehart

                            Just consider that a folish monkey is a folish monkey, reading what you wrote but doing as if it didn't ..
                            🙂

                            The distortion in your intent to get an idea of reach, whithout hashtag, is that you went viral. The only thing you can kinda measure now is how many instances you reached. 738 boosts and counting is like the most boosts I've seen so far. You're about to map all the instances that are and being on top of every trending stream.

                            That's anything but normal for a common post.

                            And personally I consider hashtags the most important tool to reach a specific audience, for theaters, artists, craftsman and alike.

                            What we do not have is a maesurement for "prints".
                            Probably the only way would be to say:
                            "Please fav if you see this post!"

                            Megan Marie HartM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @jesuisatire Yeah, that did not go as intended! 😅

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                            • Vsevolod PopovS Vsevolod Popov

                              @meganmariehart I never use hashtags on Mastodon since I forgot that they were used in Twitter. They are not used in Telegram. In case of Russian mastodon there are 2 bots that boost your posts if they are written in russian. I have no idea how they are boosted if they are written in English and how, let's say, a person would find somebody to follow in Mastodon if he only registered and wants to find something to read and interact with.

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                              @Sevapopov @meganmariehart
                              AFAIK people can opt out of allowing full-text search of their posts. If so, you can only find people talking about opera if they use a hashtag #opera.

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                              • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                                @sonjaschuh01 Thank you so much! I’ll give this to someone who’s good with math and computers. I have a hunch it could be really helpful. (I’m terrible at math. Did you know dancers are better at math than musicians? I heard them count to eight!)

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                                @sonjaschuh01 @meganmariehart something I discovered is that if you post a link to an image, hit count on the image gives you an idea of views. I post my photos that way, and it seems to track. The same principle as "pixel trackers" in email. If you use a unique link for the post, to say a poster for the event, I don't see a problem with that.

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                                • Patrick O'BeirneP Patrick O'Beirne

                                  @Sevapopov @meganmariehart
                                  AFAIK people can opt out of allowing full-text search of their posts. If so, you can only find people talking about opera if they use a hashtag #opera.

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                                  @PatrickOBeirne @meganmariehart Thank you for all your explanations! It is great that hashtags are used in Mastodon as much as they were in Twitter, I already forgot how it was since I didn't use Twitter for ages and in Telegram hashtags are used to categorize things. One person that is new to Mastodon asked me what I can recommend to do if they don't know who to follow on new account, what to start with. I actually don't remember what I did since it was 6 years ago and when I returned 2 weeks ago I already had some accounts I follow. They use native Mastodon app, I don't know what they could do if they used FastSM. Maybe there are some recommendations or something like that for those that don't have any followings? Like list of posts or whatever?

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                                  • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                                    BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                                    Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

                                    (edit: Why, you ask? Long thread coming up … 1/7)

                                    Naga (he/him)N This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @meganmariehart I've read your original thread and many of the replies (including some of the rude ones).

                                    I'm sincerely curious about something, though, and if you've said I missed it. Is there a downside to using hashtags that I'm not seeing? Maybe not a hashtag soup, but just, say, "# opera" at the end?

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                                    • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                                      BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                                      Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

                                      (edit: Why, you ask? Long thread coming up … 1/7)

                                      acmA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @meganmariehart not boosting or quoting, but responding for the count

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                                      • Patrick O'BeirneP Patrick O'Beirne

                                        @Sevapopov @meganmariehart
                                        AFAIK people can opt out of allowing full-text search of their posts. If so, you can only find people talking about opera if they use a hashtag #opera.

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                                        @Sevapopov @meganmariehart @PatrickOBeirne no, you can't find people that go to opera and like opera by tag "opera". you will probably find fans of some proprietary browser instead. this is an example of totally litter tag.and among that litter you barely can find information about real opera theaters and so on.
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                                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                          @meganmariehart

                                          Maybe I'm very strange but my metric for a post "doing well" is replies not likes or boosts.

                                          A good post spawns a million threads and subthreads.

                                          However, I'm on social media to ... socialize (crazy right?)

                                          People who view social media as a publicity tool don't reply to posts, they don't even read their own replies. It's like they aren't even here.

                                          Sad that on places like X/twitter replies were seen as a negative: a sign that people were angry at you. Dysfunctional.

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                                          @futurebird @meganmariehart
                                          I'm on social media to watch other people socialize 😅.

                                          But as a general lurker, I like to use likes as a "keep it up!/hell yeah", and boosts are basically the same with an added element of "I hope more people see this too"

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