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China will remove canola tariffs if Canada scraps EV levies: ambassador

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  • I indridcold@lemmy.ca
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    indridcold@lemmy.ca
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    I say we do this. The ONLY reason Canada put tariffs on Chinese EVs is because of the US - back when the US was our friend. Those days are well over.

    From what I understand, Chinese EVs out perform the US ones (charge quicker with longer range) and are way cheaper.

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    • I indridcold@lemmy.ca
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      donkmagnum@lemy.lol
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      Wanna see a trick? I can make bots appear, watch this:

      Maybe if China agrees to stop being a threat to Taiwan, stops interfering in our politics, and stops spying on us, and builds some auto plants here to employ some Canadians, we can talk about their fucking EVs. Until then, we already have one international bully as a trade partner, we don’t need more.

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      • D donkmagnum@lemy.lol

        Wanna see a trick? I can make bots appear, watch this:

        Maybe if China agrees to stop being a threat to Taiwan, stops interfering in our politics, and stops spying on us, and builds some auto plants here to employ some Canadians, we can talk about their fucking EVs. Until then, we already have one international bully as a trade partner, we don’t need more.

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        mrdown@lemmy.world
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        Canada lied about stop selling arms to israel who are we to gives lessons?

        The reasons we have tariffs on China has nothing to do with bs you spew we did it to protect the usa car industry

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        • I indridcold@lemmy.ca
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          devanismyname@lazysoci.al
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          Do it. Canola is an important industry to Canada and we don’t make evs here anyway.

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          • D donkmagnum@lemy.lol

            Wanna see a trick? I can make bots appear, watch this:

            Maybe if China agrees to stop being a threat to Taiwan, stops interfering in our politics, and stops spying on us, and builds some auto plants here to employ some Canadians, we can talk about their fucking EVs. Until then, we already have one international bully as a trade partner, we don’t need more.

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            Red Whacker
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            @DonkMagnum @IndridCold Not a fan of China, but it's sort of rich to demand non-interference when inferring some interference ourselves.

            Maybe if China agrees to stop being a threat to Taiwan, stops interfering in our politics

            Also this is rich:

            builds some auto plants here to employ some Canadians,

            So does that mean we will be basing our canola growers in China?

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            • M mrdown@lemmy.world

              Canada lied about stop selling arms to israel who are we to gives lessons?

              The reasons we have tariffs on China has nothing to do with bs you spew we did it to protect the usa car industry

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              donkmagnum@lemy.lol
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              The American and Japanese auto industries both employ Canadians.

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                @DonkMagnum @IndridCold Not a fan of China, but it's sort of rich to demand non-interference when inferring some interference ourselves.

                Maybe if China agrees to stop being a threat to Taiwan, stops interfering in our politics

                Also this is rich:

                builds some auto plants here to employ some Canadians,

                So does that mean we will be basing our canola growers in China?

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                donkmagnum@lemy.lol
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                lol. Do you really think the economic impact of our canola industry is on par with the potential impact Chinese EVs? It’s a ridiculous notion.

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                • D donkmagnum@lemy.lol

                  The American and Japanese auto industries both employ Canadians.

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                  mrdown@lemmy.world
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                  Chinese would also employ Canadians or any other countries investing in Canada. Why couldn’t we start investing in our own companies to build cars?

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                  • I indridcold@lemmy.ca
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                    snoons@lemmy.ca
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                    I don’t drive, but that’d be cool if canola oil became even cheaper. :3

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                    • D donkmagnum@lemy.lol

                      lol. Do you really think the economic impact of our canola industry is on par with the potential impact Chinese EVs? It’s a ridiculous notion.

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                      Red Whacker
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                      @DonkMagnum No, I do not.

                      But it does beg the question why you didn't lead with that instead of your cute grandstanding initial comment.

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                      • D donkmagnum@lemy.lol

                        lol. Do you really think the economic impact of our canola industry is on par with the potential impact Chinese EVs? It’s a ridiculous notion.

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                        Em Adespoton
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                        Is it? Have you run the numbers?

                        Just think about the amount of land in Canada dedicated to growing canola vs the amount dedicated to building EVs. Or the number of people employed, for that matter.

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                          I don’t drive, but that’d be cool if canola oil became even cheaper. :3

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                          blamethepeacock@lemmy.ca
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                          The oil would become more expensive, because it can now be exported cheaper.

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                          • I indridcold@lemmy.ca

                            I say we do this. The ONLY reason Canada put tariffs on Chinese EVs is because of the US - back when the US was our friend. Those days are well over.

                            From what I understand, Chinese EVs out perform the US ones (charge quicker with longer range) and are way cheaper.

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                            blamethepeacock@lemmy.ca
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                            I have a security concern with Chinese EVs.

                            They’re far too computerized, and connected, at this point.

                            The last thing I want is the ability for the Chinese government to disable a quarter of the Canadian vehicle fleet if they decided they wanted to. Or potentially even worse than disabling them in some cases.

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                              a_a@lemmy.world
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                              Between USA that has gone completely mad and this other superpower, China, that supports Russia, which wages war against its allies, this put Canada in a difficult situation. Canola and electric vehicles might just be entry level bargaining points … who knows, certainly not me.

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                              • B blamethepeacock@lemmy.ca

                                The oil would become more expensive, because it can now be exported cheaper.

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                                snoons@lemmy.ca
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                                Dang peacocks 😠

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                                  agm@lemmy.ca
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                                  On October 8th, after Carney’s meeting with Trump, Lutnick said that the US is going to insist on dominating the North American auto market and have assembly all happen in the US with Canada being forced into a subordinate role.

                                  We need alternatives.

                                  I doubt we will make this deal with China, because the US will not tolerate that, but it would be much better for Canadians.

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                                    @DonkMagnum @IndridCold Not a fan of China, but it's sort of rich to demand non-interference when inferring some interference ourselves.

                                    Maybe if China agrees to stop being a threat to Taiwan, stops interfering in our politics

                                    Also this is rich:

                                    builds some auto plants here to employ some Canadians,

                                    So does that mean we will be basing our canola growers in China?

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                                    twopi@lemmy.ca
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                                    You forgot one thing, when OP has a bad take it is called “the correct opinion and the obvious stance expressed with freedom” when some else does (or has a good take that OP doesn’t like) it’s called bots interfering in our politics.

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                                    • I indridcold@lemmy.ca

                                      I say we do this. The ONLY reason Canada put tariffs on Chinese EVs is because of the US - back when the US was our friend. Those days are well over.

                                      From what I understand, Chinese EVs out perform the US ones (charge quicker with longer range) and are way cheaper.

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                                      reddig33@lemmy.world
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                                      China isn’t Canada’s friend. Spending money on Chinese goods means you are funding Russia’s war against Ukraine.

                                      If you need to import something, why not import it from the EU? They make EVs. As does South Korea.

                                      reuters.com

                                      favicon

                                      (www.reuters.com)

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                                        kyle@lemmy.ca
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                                        With Canada so obsessed with keeping vehicle manufacturing jobs to the detriment of every Canadian not wanting to buy American cars. Why does Canada drop the Chinese tarrifs but demand certain assembly and manufacturing of Chinese vehicles happen in Canada?

                                        Sounds like a win win, but they are too stuck on the idea they should only manufacture cars from incumbent companies that are stuck in the past. Canada has significant geological resources like lithium and rare earth metals is an even better reason to be excited about EV production in Canada.

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                                        • I indridcold@lemmy.ca
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                                          ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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                                          Sounds like an easy decision; we sell our rapeseed and get non-American cars.

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