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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running.

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  • David Scott MoyerF David Scott Moyer

    @briankrebs Email provided for comment doesn't work.

    BrianKrebsB This user is from outside of this forum
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    BrianKrebs
    wrote last edited by
    #32

    @farbel Did you try to send to cbp_pra@cbp.dhs.gov? Did you get a bounce?

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    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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      The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

      Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

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      Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

      David Penfold :verified:D This user is from outside of this forum
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      David Penfold :verified:
      wrote last edited by
      #33

      @briankrebs This is totally insane 😳

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      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

        Link Preview Image
        The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

        Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

        favicon

        Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

        OlivierD This user is from outside of this forum
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        Olivier
        wrote last edited by
        #34

        @briankrebs How To Kill Tourism For Dummies™

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        • Elisabeth MI Elisabeth M

          @aka_quant_noir @SaanichGuy @briankrebs funny thing is imagining how upset they would be if literally every person left the US. Can you imagine their confusion

          "Guys ... but guys, I ... need someone here to order around."

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          Mark Hahn
          wrote last edited by
          #35

          @independentpen @aka_quant_noir @SaanichGuy @briankrebs
          That's the thing: a surprising number of Americans want to be submissives ordered around by Strict Father.

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          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

            I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)

            "Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nation’s economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the country’s services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the country’s GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."

            Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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            Charlie Stross
            wrote last edited by
            #36

            @briankrebs

            I'm British, white, male, aged 60-ish.

            Prior to February 2016 I typically visited the USA 3 times a year for up to six weeks.

            Since February 2016 I have visited the USA twice in a decade, for a total of 10 days.

            Entering the USA as a foreigner, with a Republican POTUS in the White House, *never* felt safe, but under Trump it looks diabolically dangerous. (And to a glance I resemble "one of them": I'm not female or dark-skinned.)

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            • David Scott MoyerF David Scott Moyer

              @briankrebs

              FaraiweF This user is from outside of this forum
              FaraiweF This user is from outside of this forum
              Faraiwe
              wrote last edited by
              #37

              @farbel @briankrebs is CPB a typo for CBP, or the actual address is CPB_PRA ? CPB dhs gov goes nowhere.

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              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                Link Preview Image
                The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                favicon

                Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

                DanD This user is from outside of this forum
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                Dan
                wrote last edited by
                #38

                @briankrebs

                Hmmm... Just in time for the World Cup and Olympics?
                I think we will see countries boycott these events, but this might push more over the edge.

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                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                  I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)

                  "Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nation’s economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the country’s services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the country’s GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."

                  tom jenningsT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  tom jennings
                  wrote last edited by
                  #39

                  @briankrebs

                  ...combine that with the incredible enshittification the airline industry has inflicted on themselves... multiplied by so many other industries all undergoing the same "growth pressure" responses. Yowza.

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                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                    We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                    "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                    "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                    PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                    -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                    -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                    ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                    -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                    -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                    -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                    -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                    -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                    Link Preview Image
                    The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                    Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                    favicon

                    Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                    The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                    must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                    Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

                    CaptMorganC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    CaptMorgan
                    wrote last edited by
                    #40

                    @briankrebs Why would anyone want to travel to the US. Use a burner phone

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                    • Martin SeegerM Martin Seeger

                      @briankrebs I would be unable to comply, even if I wanted to (and hell, I don't want to).

                      I regularly use unique Email addresses and not all of them are documented. I guess that 5 years means 500+ email addresses.

                      HaveIBennPwned quite often informs me, how wise that move is 🙂. Do they allow wildcards in email addresses?

                      There are several more "no go" points in that text. And if a relative would hand out any information about me, I would consider that a breach of trust. So I won't do that either.

                      I think any person wanting to visit the U.S. at the current state must be completely nuts.

                      Hans van ZijstH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Hans van Zijst
                      wrote last edited by
                      #41
                      @Martin Seeger
                      I think any person wanting to visit the U.S. at the current state must be completely nuts.


                      Or unfathomably naive...
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                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                        Link Preview Image
                        The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                        Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                        favicon

                        Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

                        Otmar LendlO This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Otmar Lendl
                        wrote last edited by
                        #42

                        @briankrebs just cancel the Olympics and the FIFA World Cup as the next step.

                        I will not travel to the US in 2026 just as sure as I would not recommend time travel to Germany 1936 to a jew.

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                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                          I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)

                          "Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nation’s economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the country’s services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the country’s GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."

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                          TheGoodbyeGirl 🇬🇧♈
                          wrote last edited by
                          #43

                          @briankrebs right about now, no one should be going to the USA, the only language the 🟠 understands is money, he really doesn't care about people, no matter who they are.

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                          • Martin SeegerM Martin Seeger

                            @briankrebs I would be unable to comply, even if I wanted to (and hell, I don't want to).

                            I regularly use unique Email addresses and not all of them are documented. I guess that 5 years means 500+ email addresses.

                            HaveIBennPwned quite often informs me, how wise that move is 🙂. Do they allow wildcards in email addresses?

                            There are several more "no go" points in that text. And if a relative would hand out any information about me, I would consider that a breach of trust. So I won't do that either.

                            I think any person wanting to visit the U.S. at the current state must be completely nuts.

                            gnaddrigG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            gnaddrig
                            wrote last edited by
                            #44

                            @masek @briankrebs

                            "Do they allow wildcards in email addresses?"

                            All my email addresses of the last 10 years: *@*.com

                            ("com" might be a bit of a stretch, could be replaced with *.)

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                            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                              We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                              "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                              "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                              PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                              -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                              -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                              ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                              -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                              -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                              -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                              -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                              -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                              Link Preview Image
                              The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                              Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                              favicon

                              Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                              The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                              must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                              Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                              Thomas Arildsen
                              wrote last edited by
                              #45

                              @briankrebs I have been to the United States in the past, but it is one place I know I am certainly not going anymore. Let’s hope that could change in the future.

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                              • arrakeen_urbaniteA arrakeen_urbanite

                                @briankrebs If this happens, the EU should impose similar restrictions on U.S. citizen travelers.

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                                Compassionate Crab
                                wrote last edited by
                                #46

                                @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs

                                And for everyone's safety, require vaccinations. Maybe do mandatory drug tests, too.

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                                • FaraiweF Faraiwe

                                  @farbel @briankrebs is CPB a typo for CBP, or the actual address is CPB_PRA ? CPB dhs gov goes nowhere.

                                  David Scott MoyerF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  David Scott Moyer
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #47

                                  @faraiwe @briankrebs I changed it and got this:

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                                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                    I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)

                                    "Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nation’s economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the country’s services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the country’s GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."

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                                    otto
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #48

                                    @briankrebs An image comes to mind: MAGA tripping over the power cord and unplugging the life support machines of our economy. I am sure Midjourney could use that as a prompt.

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                                    • Ingo van LilI Ingo van Lil

                                      @briankrebs Good!

                                      My boss doesn't understand why I refuse to travel to the US. I guess this will finally change his mind.

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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #49

                                      @inguin @briankrebs A number of the companies I have worked for over the last 10 years would have a hissy fit about me passing on my email details!

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                                      • TroyT Troy

                                        @briankrebs Whose going to remember all of that anyways? Seems like an excellent way to pick out people they want to harass and claim its because they lied. Presumably they already have this data thanks to big tech

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                                        gnaddrig
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #50

                                        @troy @briankrebs

                                        "Whose going to remember all of that anyways?"

                                        And who is going to check/verify any of this, and how?

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                                        • Oliver JensenO Oliver Jensen

                                          @briankrebs

                                          as someone who has been using unique email addresses for every service, I look forward to submitting several hundred addresses.

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                                          Derick Rethans
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #51

                                          @ojensen @briankrebs Do you even remember them all? I certainly don't.

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