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@oblomov@sociale.network How do people actually know something?

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  • Chris TrottierA This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote on last edited by atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org
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    Oblomov How do people actually know something? They could always lie and make stuff up. And that happens over and over again on social media – which is why it’s rife with misinformation.

    For this reason, I don’t believe in answering anything factual unless it’s validated and verified. Which requires a link. And it is very unlikely that link comes from my bookmarks bar. Which means if I were to answer, I’d probably use a search engine.

    So the answer to this problem is to learn how to do research and answer questions yourself.

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    • Chris TrottierA Chris Trottier

      Oblomov How do people actually know something? They could always lie and make stuff up. And that happens over and over again on social media – which is why it’s rife with misinformation.

      For this reason, I don’t believe in answering anything factual unless it’s validated and verified. Which requires a link. And it is very unlikely that link comes from my bookmarks bar. Which means if I were to answer, I’d probably use a search engine.

      So the answer to this problem is to learn how to do research and answer questions yourself.

      OblomovO This user is from outside of this forum
      OblomovO This user is from outside of this forum
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      @atomicpoet

      again, disagree. The answer to this “problem”, which is only a problem for you (and anyone who feels the same way) is for you (and anyone who feels the same way) to not answer social media queries.
      It's not an indictment of social media queries (and answers) in general, it's your personal perception of them, which is trivially avoided ignoring them, which is to the benefit of both you and to anyone who actually enjoys participating in the discussions that may arise from one.

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      • OblomovO Oblomov

        @atomicpoet

        again, disagree. The answer to this “problem”, which is only a problem for you (and anyone who feels the same way) is for you (and anyone who feels the same way) to not answer social media queries.
        It's not an indictment of social media queries (and answers) in general, it's your personal perception of them, which is trivially avoided ignoring them, which is to the benefit of both you and to anyone who actually enjoys participating in the discussions that may arise from one.

        Chris TrottierA This user is from outside of this forum
        Chris TrottierA This user is from outside of this forum
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        Oblomov Is that how you feel about spam as well? Just ignore it when it arrives in your inbox? To others, spam seems trivial – but it’s not.

        You also haven’t addressed that facts should be verified and validated by links. In fact, you skipped over this need entirely. And this is not a small thing.

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        • Chris TrottierA Chris Trottier

          Oblomov Is that how you feel about spam as well? Just ignore it when it arrives in your inbox? To others, spam seems trivial – but it’s not.

          You also haven’t addressed that facts should be verified and validated by links. In fact, you skipped over this need entirely. And this is not a small thing.

          OblomovO This user is from outside of this forum
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          @atomicpoet
          how the fsck do you get to an analogy between social media queries and spam? is any content you don't like in social media spam?

          I haven't addressed it because it's irrelevant to the discussion. But if you really want to insist on that point, then you should be aware that just providing a link to support a statement does absolutely nothing to support the truth or validity of that statement, it just shifts the authority.

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          • OblomovO Oblomov

            @atomicpoet
            how the fsck do you get to an analogy between social media queries and spam? is any content you don't like in social media spam?

            I haven't addressed it because it's irrelevant to the discussion. But if you really want to insist on that point, then you should be aware that just providing a link to support a statement does absolutely nothing to support the truth or validity of that statement, it just shifts the authority.

            Chris TrottierA This user is from outside of this forum
            Chris TrottierA This user is from outside of this forum
            Chris Trottier
            wrote on last edited by atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org
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            Oblomov Something you don’t seem to get is that I don’t take requests for work lightly. Tech support is actual work I’ve been paid to do. 90% of it was basically running a help desk—handing out links because most people are too lazy to search for themselves, so they dump the job on others, even if it takes a whole day to get a response.

            Now, you might ask, “Why just send links instead of answering the question?” Because the article is already written. It only takes seconds to share that link, but re-explaining everything would take way longer. Even if I’m the expert, I use Google to find the right link to validate and verify instead of writing paragraphs.

            Everyone can solve these problems through search. It literally takes seconds. Whether you like Google or not, Google is usually more accurate and efficient than social media threads.

            So no, I’m not calling all content I don’t like “spam.” But questions that could be answered instantly by a quick search, yet are offloaded to others, are a drain on time and effort—that’s the real issue.

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